Speculation: Who is R.A.B. ????? (Spoiler Alert)

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When I first read the R.A.B. note i immediatley though "Remus"! for some reason... but it can be him so then it was back the three people idea... but then that didn't make sense. Amelia Bones and Regulus are good ideas and so is the mulitple people one, but hte one that makes the most sense would be to have it be a new person. JKR would disquise the person's real name real well in the book, it wouldn't be that obvious people.

wait...you mean like it is not one RAB person...but like three people? 🤨
remus, albus, b.. someone?

Re: RAB

Originally posted by GodricaG
Can RAB be anyone other than Regelus Black? I think the real horcrux is hidden at Grimmauld place, unless Mundungus already managed to steal it.

I'm afraid I'm with you there. It's hard to imagine that the (at the time, incidental) scene with Mundugus and the apparently stolen goods was not put there precisely to set up a later scene in which Harry will realise RAB was a Black, will go to the Black house to find the locket and then find that it was stolen along with the other stuff by Mundungus.

With respect to the HBP itself, this is the first in the series that I have had relatively negative feelings about because - in a first for a Potter book - so much is left hanging. You can't really imagine HBP ever getting made into a stand alone film because it leaves so much unanswered, and I can see HBP and the final book being merged into one epic film which contains both the questions AND the answers.

The obvious tie- off, and reasonable compensation for our having to endure the unfittingly squalid death of Dumbledore - would have been to have Harry go after Snape and battle him to the death at the end of HBP.
It would have been the most logical way in which to wrap up a book about a character called the half-blood prince who turned out to be Snape.

As Rowling didn't do that, we can only assume one of two things, either that Rowling means to have Harry fight a 'Lieutenant' battle against Snape half way through the last book and then a 'Boss' battle against Voldemort at the end, or, there remains the delicious possibility that Snape made the hardest decision of his life and killed Dumbledore to maintain his necessary cover as a double agent in order for the good guys to continue to have a lead into Voldemort. From what we know about Snape, he is easily hard enough and single minded enough to be able to make a decision like that. Remember that Snape didn't know he was going to be confronted with the unexpectedly weakened and disabled Dumbledore and when that did happen, the only thing 'bad' Snape could possibly do, surrounded as he was by witnesses from the dark side, was to kill him if he could.

There were other, lesser, irritatingly incomplete threads in this book too. It was mentioned, for example, that Mr Ollivander (Of the wand shop fame) had disappeared. What happened to him? Why raise the matter at all if there was no intention to follow this up?

-GrahamG

Interesting...I think they got Mr. Olivander because of the fact that he has the best wands. And so no more witches and wizards who start out at Hogwarts would have one. Dunno really just a theory. Snape is very tricky. He covers himself up real good. We really didn't know of his double agent act until now, which makes us think upon the other books...

Interesting point... Yes... But Mundugus got to sent to Azkaban, right? So Harrry would need to find the place Mundugus placed all the stuff.

And goal! I got it! Harry would have to break into Azkaban, retrieve Mundugus from there, so Mundugus could tell him where is the real locket! That'll be an exellent plot!

How do we even know if Mundungus got sent to Azkaban? And how do we even know the locket is the horcrux. that seems all to easy if it is. I think it is a coincidence that the locket was mentioned.

Originally posted by Nataku8188
And what clues were left that Snape was the Half-Blood prince? None.

Disagree. First and most obviously there was the Prince's well above average skill with potions. Who has been teaching Potions ever since we arrived at Hogwarts?

-Snape.

But there was also this, a little hint from JK -

Near the beginning of the chapter 'Birthday Surprises' there's a potions class in which Harry and the others are required to assemble a poison antidote. Harry struggles because he at first thinks that the HBP has nothing to say on the subject, but he flips forward and finds the scribbled advice 'Just shove A Bezoar down their throats'.

As he reads this, Harry recalls that Snape gave them this advice in their first ever potions lesson -'A stone fallen from the stomach of a goat, which will protect from most poisons'.

The clues are there if you only look.

-GrahamG

plus the whole attitude of the prince... it was snape like
for me it was obvious from the beginning and i was wondering why harry doesn't see it

samehere. Potter should have realized at least from the beozar, that he was the prince.

did anyone notice how this is the only book where jk. ends it at school. usually they go home on the train and meet the dursleys at the train station to go home for "another boring summer" or something.

this time she ended it at school. it seemed a bit rough. like she had a different idia and then at the last minute chaged her mind and cut it off.

did anyone else notice this?

well she kind of had to do it like that, because it really wasn't neccessary for him to go back to the Dursley's and it was a good spot to end for her. Ending it after the funeral was a good idea to do. It wouldn't have mattered if they went on the train home or not. Harry would be in the same mood, unless she starts with the train ride home. That could be a possiblity too.

but at the beggining of book 6 dumbledore makes the dursleys promise to let harry come home to there house at least one more time before he turns seventeen to make sure the magic of his mother is still strong or something so he does have to go back at least once...

doesn't mean he will

true... i wish she would keep writing even after book seven. unless she makes harry die or something but that would be kinda cheesy... i dunno...

Re: Re: RAB

Originally posted by GrahamG

With respect to the HBP itself, this is the first in the series that I have had relatively negative feelings about because - in a first for a Potter book - so much is left hanging. You can't really imagine HBP ever getting made into a stand alone film because it leaves so much unanswered, and I can see HBP and the final book being merged into one epic film which contains both the questions AND the answers.

-GrahamG

No. It will be one film for a couple reasons.

1. The film would be too long.
2. They wouldnt make two films just because one film leaves you hanging. Look at the Matrix Reloaded. It ended in 'To be Concluded'

Originally posted by chinsmak
true... i wish she would keep writing even after book seven. unless she makes harry die or something but that would be kinda cheesy... i dunno...

There have been a number of hints (which I can't specifically recall at the moment) which have suggested that Harry and Voldemort are so interconnected on some level that when one dies, the other may do so as well. So brace yourself for the worst in book 7.

-GrahamG

Re: Re: Re: RAB

Originally posted by DanZeke25
No. It will be one film for a couple reasons.

1. The film would be too long.
2. They wouldnt make two films just because one film leaves you hanging. Look at the Matrix Reloaded. It ended in 'To be Concluded'

I'm not too sure if you didn't get the logic of your statement back to front - I think you meant it WON'T be one film for two reasons, etc.

The films of HPaPS and CoS were beautiful, faithful renditions, but PoA was severely slashed with the result that the longest book in the series so far became the shortest film so far, to the detriment of that film in my opinion. It did prove, though, that film producers will do whatever they deem necessary. I acknowledge that the Matrix did indeed have a two-part finale, but that was a big gamble.

Another problem we're facing is that the cast are ageing a lot faster in realtime than JK can produce the books, so there may well be a need or indeed an urgency to combine the last two books into one film, or at least to make them both at the same time.

It's my understanding that the present primary cast (Radcliffe, Watson and Grint) are not presently under contract to play their characters once GoF is complete - hard to imagine anyone else playing them now. I would almost rather not see any more films made than have someone else play them.

-GrahamG

I have read so far it is only Radclife who will be in OOTP. The others Warner Brothers doesn't know about. Don't remember the site, but I'll try and look for it.

Okay found it.
http://www.veritaserum.com/movies/movie5/cast.shtml

Originally posted by Saratn
I have read so far it is only Radclife who will be in OOTP. The others Warner Brothers doesn't know about. Don't remember the site, but I'll try and look for it.

i hope the others join on because i see them as the characters in my head and if it changed it would be weird.