id never insult someone for there religion...its there own business .my opinion is though is that religeous people give minds and their lives away.
The only thing i dont agree on is that they insist that everyone else must do the same and that’s not fine. Seriously not fine.
that is not to condemn all people who call themselves Christian. There are many who express a loving spirituality through their Christian beliefs. I am talking of the institution of Christianity and its arrogant indoctrination and imposition of its desperately limited vision of life which has created a mind-prison for literally billions of people over almost 2,000 years.
Originally posted by whirlysplat
The point of this post is ?
The point IS...
That racism runs 2 ways, and it's pathetic that a man who was wrong to use his race to get another person fired escaped discipline because the management was afraid to probe deeper for fear of a racial incident and a boycott by the NAACP. Yo think it's fair that this guy lost his job in light of several people saying there WAS no name calling? What does that tell you about the system and the way it gets played? Just because this guy bested him in a verbal battle, he uses the race card and BANG..instant justice as he gets his way and the other guy is out of the picture.
And you KNOW there are non whites who discriminate as well as whites. And this was a textbook example.
Besides, another factor contributing to racism is an occurance of an event that would involve the criminal action of particular members of society such as the London Undergroud bombings commited by what turned out to be by Muslims.
An event like this would lead to STIGMATISING which also means generalizing.
Something I have encountered on KMC in many threads
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
And again, you read what you want to read.Christians(the people) good ----> ideology is BAD. Ideology = something people do = people do bad.
How can I put this more simply...??
''With or without religion you are going to have good people doing good and bad people doing bad. But for good people to do bad, for that you need religion''
Black is not an ideology. You have good and bad black peopole - [b]their morlas are independent of their skin colour
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How can an ideology based on something "good" be bad? And why does having an ideology automatically equate to someone doing bad? That's exactly the type of generalization that I'm talking about that is not good.
That quote is erroneous. It's making the assumption that good people can do bad because of religion. How can good people do something bad because of their religion, obviously, if they're truly "good" they won't allow religion to sway them to doing something bad, and if they do, they obviously aren't very good to begin with.
And many people's major morals are independent of their religion. Atheists and Christians both hold that murder, theft and lying is wrong. Some smaller morals may be swayed by religion, but they're usually trivial.
Originally posted by GCG
Besides, another factor contributing to racism is an occurance of an event that would involve the criminal action of particular members of society such as the London Undergroud bombings commited by what turned out to be by Muslims.An event like this would lead to STIGMATISING which also means generalizing.
Something I have encountered on KMC in many threads
My point from the start
Originally posted by WindDancer
I see two negatives in this thread for example:You're black-you're bad
You're a Christian-you're bad
You're a Black Christian you're twice as bad.
See, that is just wrong no matter how you might try to rephrase it.
First off, I never said ALL blacks were bad. This was an isolated incident where I worked, and I'm not going to be labelled by what is percieved to be a thinly veiled assumption about how I feel about blacks (or anyone else.) But there IS a double standard that exists, and what I am trying to say is, is that discrimination exists in other peoples as well as the white race. And that to a degree, other peoples have the system tied down because they can say YOU discriminated them by calling them a name, but if they call YOU a name it's no big deal because no definition of reverse racism exists, just as we are also in the void over the lack of a definition of the term "enemy combatant" in the War On Terror.
And when you discover loopholes, a way in is a way out as well. Hope that clears it up.
Originally posted by WindDancer
I see two negatives in this thread for example:You're black-you're bad
You're a Christian-you're bad
You're a Black Christian you're twice as bad.
See, that is just wrong no matter how you might try to rephrase it.
WD, i am getting frustrated at the fact that people are either - missing my point or not reading properly or both.
I'll repeat this one more and pray to Krishna that people will read it and hopefully understand it - Christians are people, they are good , things they do that their ideology preaches are bad.
Not all Christians do bad, but I can by that disagree with their ideology. I don't have to follow it and with that I will not condem people that do in any way - its called co-existnace - but from my perspective i don't see anything wrong with critiquing someone who does something which is blatantly wrong in the name of ideology (Christian, Jew, Muslim, Voodoo, Hindu, Morman, Bahai...whichever).
If you are gonna ban Abortion in the name of Bible, or if you're gonna stone homosexuals or kill the non believers, in the name of your ideology, I would first look into your ideology that you follow, before i look into you personaly.
Does that make sense?
Being black does not coordinate your moral code. Black person doing something bad is them being bad, not their skin colour. No black man will blame something he does wrong on his skin colour (cos thats what my skin preaches). No, they will blame it on the social status, mental problem, psychological problem..etc.etc.
Please tell me you understand what im saying (if you do, then you are free to disagree 😛)
Originally posted by Dagons Blade
First off, I never said ALL blacks were bad. This was an isolated incident where I worked, and I'm not going to be labelled by what is percieved to be a thinly veiled assumption about how I feel about blacks (or anyone else.) But there IS a double standard that exists, and what I am trying to say is, is that discrimination exists in other peoples as well as the white race. And that to a degree, other peoples have the system tied down because they can say YOU discriminated them by calling them a name, but if they call YOU a name it's no big deal because no definition of reverse racism exists, just as we are also in the void over the lack of a definition of the term "enemy combatant" in the War On Terror.And when you discover loopholes, a way in is a way out as well. Hope that clears it up.
not really I hear your words, but your first post gives me another set of meanings which disappoint me
Originally posted by Dagons Blade
First off, I never said ALL blacks were bad. This was an isolated incident where I worked, and I'm not going to be labelled by what is percieved to be a thinly veiled assumption about how I feel about blacks (or anyone else.) But there IS a double standard that exists, and what I am trying to say is, is that discrimination exists in other peoples as well as the white race. And that to a degree, other peoples have the system tied down because they can say YOU discriminated them by calling them a name, but if they call YOU a name it's no big deal because no definition of reverse racism exists, just as we are also in the void over the lack of a definition of the term "enemy combatant" in the War On Terror.And when you discover loopholes, a way in is a way out as well. Hope that clears it up.
No, my post was not directed at you. I just saw the words Black and Christian and also Bad in negatives. Not pin pointing anything at you.