Originally posted by polowahine4
OK HARY IS NOT A HORCUX!!!!!!!!!!!!! jk wouldn't end it w/ voldie all powerful! now i'm not saying that it'll be a happy ending... i think that a lot of the people harry loves most r gonna die... like the weasly's and hermione... but harry would have to kill himself first. in case none of u noticed i'll sum everything up for u! ok dd sayed that voldie made 5 horcuxes before he killed harry's parents cuz the last one was gonna be made from something at there house right? right. but that didn't work so he made nagini his last one. all that dd explains to harry so we know that. and if nagini was the last one that means that harry couldn't have been. and if he was the last horcux he would have to kill himself because wen voldie's spell backfired he stayed alive on the part of his soal that was still inside of him or else he would have had to make another one besides the one he made of nagini. so if u fallow logic all the horcuxes would have to be destroyed before u could kill the last bit of soal inside voldie. end of story!
Its so hard to type stuff on a keyboard properly isnt it?🤨
"so if u fallow logic all the horcuxes would have to be destroyed before u could kill the last bit of soal inside voldie."
Like...no shit. 🙄
Your missing the point here. Voldemort wants to stay alive, yes?
By making Harry a Horcrux (at this point, who cares how, just pretend he is) he has assured his plan that Harry will die. Harry has to kill himself to destroy the part of Voldemort's soul. Then, seeing as Harry has been killed off and the prophecy cant come true, Voldemort wins.
Is that hard to understand?
Originally posted by Saratn
good, someone else who doesn't believe in that ridiculous (no offense) idea.
Most of us who are saying that Voldemort making Harry a horcrux would be smart plan for Tom, dont actually believe Harry is one. LoL Yes maybe it is ridiculous, but you cannot deny we do make a point.
anyways I'm still in favor of Tom Riddles award being the horcrux.
oh well cheers.
Originally posted by polowahine4
OK HARY IS NOT A HORCUX!!!!!!!!!!!!! jk wouldn't end it w/ voldie all powerful! now i'm not saying that it'll be a happy ending... i think that a lot of the people harry loves most r gonna die... like the weasly's and hermione... but harry would have to kill himself first. in case none of u noticed i'll sum everything up for u! ok dd sayed that voldie made 5 horcuxes before he killed harry's parents cuz the last one was gonna be made from something at there house right? right. but that didn't work so he made nagini his last one. all that dd explains to harry so we know that. and if nagini was the last one that means that harry couldn't have been. and if he was the last horcux he would have to kill himself because wen voldie's spell backfired he stayed alive on the part of his soal that was still inside of him or else he would have had to make another one besides the one he made of nagini. so if u fallow logic all the horcuxes would have to be destroyed before u could kill the last bit of soal inside voldie. end of story!
Agreed ! Agreed ! Harry can't and never will , be a horcrux
Originally posted by Sir Mist
Its so hard to type stuff on a keyboard properly isnt it?🤨"so if u fallow logic all the horcuxes would have to be destroyed before u could kill the last bit of soal inside voldie."
Like...no shit. 🙄
Your missing the point here. Voldemort wants to stay alive, yes?
By making Harry a Horcrux (at this point, who cares how, just pretend he is) he has assured his plan that Harry will die. Harry has to kill himself to destroy the part of Voldemort's soul. Then, seeing as Harry has been killed off and the prophecy cant come true, Voldemort wins.Is that hard to understand?
Yes. It would be smart for Voldemort to make Harry a horcrux. But he didnt. There is no way that he could have. The night in Godric Hollow he used the Avada Kedavra on Harry, then spell rebounded and hit Voldemort. Which made him a 'spirit'. He was too weak to do any magic for a long while, espacially something as complicated as making someone a horcrux. And Voldemort has never did any wierd spells on Harry since he came back. So how could Harry be a Horcrux? He couldnt have done it before the Avada Kedavra, because why would he try to kill Harry if he just put a Horcrux in him?
Anyway, i've been thinking, if Harry is a Horcrux, it could turn out worse for Voldemort than it would Harry. Listen to this.
Okay, Harry finds out that he is a Horcrux. He already has killed all the other Horcruxes besides himself and Voldemort. He meets Voldemort for the final showdown. He kills Voldemort/ takes him away from his body, turning him into a 'spirit'(like when the avada kedavra curse rebounded.) Then immediatley kills himself. All the Horcruxes are gone. Voldemort is still alive, but without a body or soul, and cannot come back. Meaning that Voldemort has suffered what is worse than death.(sorta like the dementors kiss.) And Dumbledore has said the Voldemort fails to relise that there are things worse than death.
That of course, is only if Harry is a horcrux, which i dont see how he could be one.
Originally posted by DanZeke25
Yes. It would be smart for Voldemort to make Harry a horcrux. But he didnt. There is no way that he could have. The night in Godric Hollow he used the Avada Kedavra on Harry, then spell rebounded and hit Voldemort. Which made him a 'spirit'. He was too weak to do any magic for a long while, espacially something as complicated as making someone a horcrux. And Voldemort has never did any wierd spells on Harry since he came back. So how could Harry be a Horcrux? He couldnt have done it before the Avada Kedavra, because why would he try to kill Harry if he just put a Horcrux in him?
Anyway, i've been thinking, if Harry is a Horcrux, it could turn out worse for Voldemort than it would Harry. Listen to this.
Okay, Harry finds out that he is a Horcrux. He already has killed all the other Horcruxes besides himself and Voldemort. He meets Voldemort for the final showdown. He kills Voldemort/ takes him away from his body, turning him into a 'spirit'(like when the avada kedavra curse rebounded.) Then immediatley kills himself. All the Horcruxes are gone. Voldemort is still alive, but without a body or soul, and cannot come back. Meaning that Voldemort has suffered what is worse than death.(sorta like the dementors kiss.) And Dumbledore has said the Voldemort fails to relise that there are things worse than death.
That of course, is only if Harry is a horcrux, which i dont see how he could be one.
LoL im usually with you on things zeke, but honestly thats not how I envisioned Horcruxes. If Voldemort has that, not a spirt, not a ghost form, he can still get a body. You see he doesnt actually take the part of the soul in the horcrux and use it. If someone has a horcrux, and dies, he lives as that stupid spirit form thing, the Horcruxes keep him from moving on. Other then that they have no purpose. Im assuming Riddles Diary was an exception that Tom planned.
By destroying all the horcruxes but one, killing Voldemort, then destroying the last horcrux, Tom would just fade from existence. Oh well just my opinion, cheers.
the only way that harry can kill voldie and be a horcrux is if he gave him a slow acting poison or something then killed himself leaving voldie to die. he can't kill himself first cuz like i've already sayed the first time he was stripped from his body he was "living" on the part of his soul that was still w/ him or else he would have had to make another horcrux after using nagini. and i do agree that making harry a horcrux would have been smart on voldie's part but the only time he could have done it was right before he tried to kill harry and it would be extremely stupid to put part of ur soul into something ur about to kill seconds later don't u think? and voldie might be a lot of things but he's not stupid!
Sorry if this has been said, but on page 116 of Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix there is a very heavy locket that no one can open. That might be what Rowling implied. However, the only problem with this is that they would have seen Slytherin's crest on there had it been the horcrux. Since Regulus Black's initials fit the ones left in the note found in the horcrux, it makes sense that the real one would be at the Black house.
Here: "also a heavy locket that none of them could open." It's on page 116 of the fifth book.
I think that the sorting hat is a horcrux.i re read goblet of fire and if u look at the sorting hat song page 157 in uk editions.it says "Twas Gryffindor who found the way. he whipped me off his head" as Dumbledore says in HBP Voldemorts horcruxes are likely to be trophies thi9ngs significent to him,he also says that hogwarts was the only place that felt like home to him,well we already suspect that Slytheirns locket and Hufflepuffs goblet are horcruxes,why not gryffindors hat?
Also harry cant be a horcrux coz up until Goblet of Fire Voldemort couldnt bear to touch him ,and by that point Voldemort had all his horcruxes, so there is no way a part of Voldemort could survive inside harry because of this love thing.
Originally posted by cole2005
Also harry cant be a horcrux coz up until Goblet of Fire Voldemort couldnt bear to touch him ,and by that point Voldemort had all his horcruxes, so there is no way a part of Voldemort could survive inside harry because of this love thing.
yeah and also if harry was a horcrux voldie would have been able to posses him in the ministry of magic in ootp but he couldn't cuz it was to painful cuz of all harry's luv. so 1)if harry was a horcrux he would have been able to posses him cuz part of his soul would have been in him and 2)since he couldn't posses him that means that his soul definately wouldn't be able to survive in harry and 3)for all those people who think that voldie knew that harry would kill himself to kill him i'm not too sure cuz didn't dd go on and on about how voldie can't think of anything worse than death and he thinks averyone feels the same way? so he would probably think that harry wouldn't kill himself
but i still think that harry can be a horcrux it's impossible
as said i think harry's scar is horcrux. to me there is nothing with this theory that doesn't is logic. It would explain his close connection with LV thoughts and emotions.
I also think that you have to say the spell that makes the horcrux before you kill.
Lets say that LV had made everything ready, pronounced the spell, and then it went out of control.
can anyone come up with proove against this??