Originally posted by oceanflame
hmm i dont know if they would notice the slytherin snake because they did find it in the house of black, so they probably thought nothing of it becasue it would just be a normal thing for the blacks to have in their house.
of course you might be right, it just seems a little odd to me that the horcrux existed for year in the headquarter of the order, without dumbledore noticing....
Originally posted by sasee tiin
yeah, but that what i'm saying.
he didn't ment to make harry a horcrux, and he didn't realise that the scar was a horcrux until last year.
remember that he didn't want to kill harry this year, beacause he had found out IMO.
I dont understand how you can accidently make someone a Horcrux. I dont think thats even possible.
Originally posted by sasee tiin
as said i think harry's scar is horcrux. to me there is nothing with this theory that doesn't is logic. It would explain his close connection with LV thoughts and emotions.
I also think that you have to say the spell that makes the horcrux before you kill.
Lets say that LV had made everything ready, pronounced the spell, and then it went out of control.can anyone come up with proove against this??
Harry's connection with Voldemort's feelings and thoughts has already been explained, it's because the Avada Kedavra spell rebounded due to the love protection of Lily, but some of Voldemort's powers were transferred into Harry when it happened. Such as the fact that he's a Parselmouth, like Voldemort... he's retained a part of Voldemort ever since that happened and it's NOT because he's a Horcrux. The fact that Voldemort tried to kill him, using Avada Kedavra, means he could not have used the spell to turn him into a Horcrux that night. Or at any time since.
Originally posted by Syren
Harry's connection with Voldemort's feelings and thoughts has already been explained, it's because the Avada Kedavra spell rebounded due to the love protection of Lily, but some of Voldemort's powers were transferred into Harry when it happened. Such as the fact that he's a Parselmouth, like Voldemort... he's retained a part of Voldemort ever since that happened and it's NOT because he's a Horcrux. The fact that Voldemort tried to kill him, using Avada Kedavra, means he could not have used the spell to turn him into a Horcrux that night. Or at any time since.
you say that he retained a part of voldemort, thats exactly what a horcrux is, a part of, in this case, LV. DD self said that LV planned to make his final horcrux with Harry's death, so therefore it's quite logic that he prepared for making the horcrux before killing Harry.
All i say is that when the curse backfired, something unexpected might have happened, such as making harry's scar into a horcrux.
just think of it; through the entire 6 books harry's scar has been mentioned quite a lot,why should JKR come up with it in the first place if it had no significances?????
His scar has been mentioned because it is the most obvious part of Harry that proves what happened when he was a baby... and it's been used as a sign that Voldemort is angry, elated, whatever... Harry has been feeling his emotions etc because Voldemort put everything he could muster into the spell that was supposed to define his future. The moment he vanquished his nemesis, Harry.
I think your theory is interesting though... even if I can't see how Voldemort could have made Harry a Horcrux mistakenly. It's made clear that creating Horcruxes is a long process, taking much effort on the part of the person who makes them... I don't think Voldemort would have made Harry his Horcrux either intentionally or accidentally.
let's say Harry's scar is not a horcrux.
i just thought a little bit about it....how can the aveda kedevra transfer powers? when i rebounded as on harry, how could it leave voldemort's powers, and a connection?
It just doesn't fit to me....im getting more and more sure that the scar has something to do with a hocrux.
Originally posted by sasee tiin
let's say Harry's scar is not a horcrux.
i just thought a little bit about it....how can the aveda kedevra transfer powers? when i rebounded as on harry, how could it leave voldemort's powers, and a connection?
It just doesn't fit to me....im getting more and more sure that the scar has something to do with a hocrux.
We don't know the friggin physics of the magic. Dumbledore explained that when Voldemort's killing curse rebounded off of Harry, it transferred some of his powers.
A) Dumbledore knows what he's talking about.
and
B) Dumbledore would know and would have told Harry that he is a Horcrux, if what you are saying is true. What, you don't think it would have crossed Dumbledore's mind between the coincidences of the transferrence of power and the Horcruxes?
Dumbledore explained that Voldemort was going to use Harry's death to make his final Horcrux. He was going to use Harry's death.
Harry is not a Horcrux.
The only thing thats keeping me from throwing out that Harry has a piece of Voldemorts soul in him is OOTP. When Dumbledore pulled out that silver instrument and the two snakes twisted into one, then Dumbledore said "But in essence divided?" OOTP American version page 470.
That part still baffles me. I mean what exactly does that mean?
LoL but im still on the Tom Riddles service to the school as a horcrux train.
oh well cheers.