Originally posted by GalacticStormThis is true and this is true, for all the pretenders old pal... no one quite does TL:dr quite as well as you 😉 hang on, I must read every long post you make. Quite pleased it took you 17/18 years to bite in this thread. 🙂I've got history with the OP. We're old friends of near 20yrs. Trust me he was referring to Phoenix hosts in general and the Phoenix Force.
There's multiple versions of each, so this how I see this playing out at first glance:
Agoraphobic Bob Sentry vs. any form of Phoenix = Phoenix FTW.
Confident "not holding back" Sentry (i.e. Sentry from end of WWHulk) vs. A new/inexperienced Phoenix Host = Sentry FTW. If Sentry can land a version of Phoenix that is still running on instinct, I can see him winning. Magneto did this to Jean when she's was still flexing her new wings.
Normal Sentry vs. A seasoned Phoenix Host (i.e. Normal Jean Grey Phoenix) = Phoenix FTW. I'd expect a fight of it. But in the end, I see an experienced Phoenix Host dropping normal Sentry.
Normal Sentry vs. Dark Phoenix Host (or any higher version of PF, including White Crown hosts or the Phoenix Force itself, etc.) = Phoenix FTW.
Unleashed Void Sentry (Dark Avengers era) vs. An Experienced Phoenix Host = Very tough call. I wouldn't be angry with either one winning or losing tbh. I suppose I edge Phoenix though. Deeper well to pull from.
Unleashed Void Sentry vs. Dark Phoenix (or higher) = Phoenix FTW, with varying degrees of difficulty depending on the version.
Overall, Phoenix outclasses. With the right combo of lesser host and/or greater Sentry, I can see some wins or stalemates, but most of the time Bob loses. I see normal Golden Sentry as being roughly akin to mashup of Silver Surfer and Superman, but not far removed from either. He's been knocked out by a raging Hulk and matched very well by Blue Marvel. He's elite; he's not above reproach. I see the Dark Era version of Unleashed Void as being a step above Elite and actually bridging that gap between elite hero/villain (such as Thor, Black Adam, Superman, etc.) and legit Skyfathers/Abstract Cosmics. Void may be in that same basic league as guys like (basic) Thanos. You need a team of Superman's to beat him; not just one. I know Sentry has some wild feats, but they have context limits. Did he blow up Molecule Man? Yes. But was this the same MM that fought Beyonder in Secret Wars? Not really. Not IMO anyway. Both Beyonder and Owen have been nerfed/retconned since that (roughly) 40 year old comic series. Limits have been better defined, cosmic pecking orders better established. Lots more characters have mastered transmutation and/or reality control. It's a different Marvel these days. Don't ignore those nearly-Silver Age feats, but take them with a grain of salt. Did he stalemate Galactus? I'll say yes. Only because Marvel hasn't had anyone call BS on it yet. But I say yes with a caveat of context: Galactus has an immense range of power depending on his hunger level, and normal Thor has driven him away in a starving state - yet we certainly don't claim that normal Thor is of a league with Galactus based on that showing. I doubt basic Sentry could last long against a fully fed Big G.