Dooku vs. Sidious

Anakin clutched at his chest with his mechanical hand, sparks from the lightning dancing off of the robotic digits. His teeth were barred - the pain evident on his youthful features, as he struggled to rise to his feet. Palpatine stood near his desk, his predatory yellow eyes flashing from Anakin to Dooku, a smirk plastered on his face.

Dooku paid no heed to his master's ever-watching stare. He had grown used to it. His attention was focused purely on Anakin, and the boy's obvious agony. Oh how Dooku enjoyed it. Pain and anger radiated from Skywalker like heat from a Tatooine landspeeder. He stepped closer, his rancor leather boots emitting no noise from the carpet of the Chancellor's office.

"I have been waiting a very long time for this moment, Skywalker." Dooku said softly, as he neared Anakin. "Since our duel in the Geonosian Hanger bay, this moment has been one I have looked forward to. The day where I would strike you down like the rabid cur you are. The only obstacle now is, of course...which limb I'll take from you next..."

Dooku opened his hand. His lightsaber hilt flipped from his belt and into his hand. Jabbing the button along the side, the hilt spat a meter long blade of red synthetic laser. Burning along with the malicious glee in Dooku's eyes.

"Stand Skywalker." Dooku muttered. "Stand and die..."

Anakin's eyes flashed open. Slowly, he stood, clutching his chest. All the while, glaring at Dooku. The Count had taken so much from him - and threatened to take even more. He would not walk away from this duel alive. Anakin's fingers twiched as he grasped ahold of his lightsaber and plucked it from the belt. A blue bar of plasma appeared from his lightsaber hilt, contrasting with Dooku's bloodred blade.

"Let's end this...old man..." Anakin growled. Raising his blade high, he charged, crossing the carpet at great lengths. He swung down with all his might, crashing his saber against Dooku's own. Dooku gritted his teeth, as the furious saber lock raged on - neither giving in.

Some six feet away, near his desk, Palpatine smiled. Everything was transpiring according to his design...

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And a good one at that. . . .

Originally posted by Darth Somebody
Anakin clutched at his chest with his mechanical hand, sparks from the lightning dancing off of the robotic digits. His teeth were barred - the pain evident on his youthful features, as he struggled to rise to his feet. Palpatine stood near his desk, his predatory yellow eyes flashing from Anakin to Dooku, a smirk plastered on his face.

Dooku paid no heed to his master's ever-watching stare. He had grown used to it. His attention was focused purely on Anakin, and the boy's obvious agony. Oh how Dooku enjoyed it. Pain and anger radiated from Skywalker like heat from a Tatooine landspeeder. He stepped closer, his rancor leather boots emitting no noise from the carpet of the Chancellor's office.

"I have been waiting a very long time for this moment, Skywalker." Dooku said softly, as he neared Anakin. "Since our duel in the Geonosian Hanger bay, this moment has been one I have looked forward to. The day where I would strike you down like the rabid cur you are. The only obstacle now is, of course...which limb I'll take from you next..."

Dooku opened his hand. His lightsaber hilt flipped from his belt and into his hand. Jabbing the button along the side, the hilt spat a meter long blade of red synthetic laser. Burning along with the malicious glee in Dooku's eyes.

"Stand Skywalker." Dooku muttered. "Stand and die..."

Anakin's eyes flashed open. Slowly, he stood, clutching his chest. All the while, glaring at Dooku. The Count had taken so much from him - and threatened to take even more. He would not walk away from this duel alive. Anakin's fingers twiched as he grasped ahold of his lightsaber and plucked it from the belt. A blue bar of plasma appeared from his lightsaber hilt, contrasting with Dooku's bloodred blade.

"Let's end this...old man..." Anakin growled. Raising his blade high, he charged, crossing the carpet at great lengths. He swung down with all his might, crashing his saber against Dooku's own. Dooku gritted his teeth, as the furious saber lock raged on - neither giving in.

Some six feet away, near his desk, Palpatine smiled. Everything was transpiring according to his design...

Originally posted by Darth Somebody
You're right. But you're all making implications. Like Nai said, IF Dooku is only at a SLIGHT disadvantage in Force-powers and if he is VERY greater than Sidious in dueling, it wouldn't be a difficult fight at all, now would it?

Well...
Let me point this out again. For all we know, Sidious force powers are not far stronger then Dookus are. That is simply logical. The dark side makes people stronger fast while the light side needs long time until you have some "real" power. I mean hey...look at the people running around in the EU post Sadow. Kun had a few years of force training and light saber training (he wasn't trained from infancy on) and after falling to the dark side he is one of the best lightsaber duelist and most powerful force users we know about. Same goes for Ulic, Revan, Malak, the Exile. They all would be able to compete with Yoda even though having far less training.

Now Dooku received 70 years of Jedi training, being one of the best jedi tacticians around and nobody out of 3 generations of Jedi knights (at least) was able to defeat him in a lightsaber duel and that includes some very talented swordfighter and powerful force user like Mace Windu (remember: he invented his own fighting style at the age of 13 and was on the council at the age of 28).

Well...when a fight between Sidious and Dooku would happen like the fight between Yoda and Sidious - with Sidious being able to take advantage because of the enviroment I'm pretty sure Sidious could kill Dooku or at least defeat him.
Now...in a "straight" duel Sidious could use his force powers (force lightning) and try to kill Dooku. As Dooku can obviously deflect force lightning with his hand (at least he would be able to do so with his lightsaber - since even AotC Obi-Wan might be able to do so) it would come to a lightsaber duel.

And in a lightsaber duel Dooku would pretty much destroy Sidious. Dooku was able to toy around with Anakin and Obi-Wan in ROTS - a council level Jedi Master and the most powerful Jedi Knight in that time. They had training of three years frontline combat in the clone wars while Sidious didn't use his lightsaber for what ? 20 years ? If there is no opportunity for Sidious to catch Dooku off guard or to suprise him he will die and he will do so very fast.

Last thing: Just a suggestion. Dooku had to die in the first minutes of the movie and the way he did because Anakin himself won't be able to kill him in a duel even when he had fallen to the dark side. Hey...he failed to kill Obi-Wan and Dooku could defeat Obi-Wan easily. So having Darth Vader (before the battle of Mustafar) kill Dooku in a duel - that would have been even more stupid than the way Dooku died in ROTS.

Thanks. Sorry, I was away reading Heir to The Empire. But like I said. Dooku should've been the first of three Sith Tasks for Anakin.

1. Killing Dooku (long duel).

2. Massacre at the Temple.

3. Wipe out the Separatists.

Seeing that Anakin is not able to defeat Obi-Wan who would easily getting defeated by Dooku I have to say that Anakin wouldn't survive the first task.

That would result in Dooku doing the work in the temple and then killing Obi-Wan on Mustafar. Then Yoda would have taken Luke and Leia with him to Dagobah and in the OT we would have faced Luke and Leia with 2 decades of Jedi training (so both as powerful as Luke is when he married Mara Jade) kicking Vaders and Palpatines sorry asses through the death star. 😛

Originally posted by Darth Somebody
Thanks. Sorry, I was away reading Heir to The Empire. But like I said. Dooku should've been the first of three Sith Tasks for Anakin.

1. Killing Dooku (long duel).

2. Massacre at the Temple.

3. Wipe out the Separatists.

Then for the Palpatine vs Yoda fiasco...-dream sequence begins again-

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A green hologram appeared on the desk of the-now-Emperor Palpatine. The hologram was miniature, only six inches in height, displaying the figure of a cloaked figure. The figure kneeled on one knee, reverent and respectful to his master.

"The Separatist Council has been delt with, my master..." The hologram spoke, it's voice contorted by the transmission field. Palpatine's yellow eyes took on a slightly darker color, from beneath the shadow of his cowl. He smiled, revealing the blackened teeth. The display sickened the figure in the hologram, but he did not betray his discomfort.

"Well done Lord Vader." The slow and deliberate voice of Palpatine cooed. "You have brought peace...and justice...to the galaxy..." He smiled even wider, like a cat cornering a mouse. The man in the hologram did not look up. He remained still.

"Thank you my master..."

Palpatine waved a hand, lazily. The hologram faded into nothingness. Palpatine stood, the ache leaving his old bones. Vader had proven his worth. The final pieces were in place. The galaxy was now his. No one could oppose him. The decades of consumate planning had succeeded. The Sith would once more rule the galaxy - unchallenged and undefeated!

A sudden groan echoed throughout the chamber. Palpatine's hood snapped around, as did the head underneath it. Palpatine squinted at the still forms of his Red Guard. Had one belched? The two Guards stood on either side of the hallway leading to the doors to the office. They stood still. Palpatine looked around once more and moved to sit - yet another groan boomed from no where. Palpatine snapped to his feet once more, annoyed and angry. Where was this wretched noise coming from.

The Red Guard, too, were no longer dismissing the noise as a trivial matter. In a fluid motion, they withdrew their twin Force pikes, and whirled around. Palpatine moved out from behind his desk, following the movements of his Guard.

Palpatine glared down the corridor that led to his office's entrance. The titanium door was...shaking. Trembling...like a delinquent child being scolded by his mother. Palpatine felt a tremor in the Force. The Guardsmen slowly moved forward, their pikes at the ready - aimed out in front of them.

The door shook - eliciting another groan - much louder than the first two. A corner of the door ripped from the archway. Palpatine stepped back, shocked. It trembled more. The other side of it crumpled - ripping free from the wall. Suddenly...the door burst out of its place - ripping free entirely - shooting down the corridor.

The Guard immediately flattened themselves against the opposite sides of the hall. The door flew past them. Palpatine's eyes widened. The door crashed to the ground, skidding along the marble floor heading straight for him. Sparks shot from behind it. Palpatine raised a hand.

The ruined door - opposed by the Force - stopped an inch from the edge of Palpatine's dark cloak. Palpatine looked at the door, and glared at the hall.

A shadow cast across the floor. Looming and tall. Palpatine squinted. The cloud of smoke emitting from the doorway clouded and disrupted the view of the intruder. Suddenly a tapping noise was heard. Tap. Tap. Tap.

A short green goblin emerged, clutching a tiny bent cane in his hand. His wide, football shaped head displayed an immense grin. Recognition flashed in Palpatine's head. YODA!

The Jedi Master Yoda grinned as his eyes flashed from one Red Guard to the other.

"Hmmm...knocked I did. Answer, you did not...Rude this is."

The Red Guard snapped out of their immobilization. Moving as one, they brandished their Force pikes and charged Yoda. Yoda crouched, pushed off the ground, and leapt through the air. The Force pikes smashed into the ground where Yoda had been.

Yoda's lightsaber was in his hands by the time the two Guardsmen turned. The green bar of plasma moved like a blur, slicing through the crimson arm of the First Guard. The pike dropped to the floor, and the Guard clutched his severed hand - but emitted no scream. Using the Force, Yoda blasted the immobilized Guard away, where he crashed into the wall, and fell to the floor in a heap.

The second Guard swung his pike. Yoda moved his saber, the two weapons clashing together. The Guard rammed the pike towards Yoda's chest. Yoda flipped his blade, and turned the pike away. Moving with the Force, Yoda zoomed in between the Guard's legs and underneath him. The Guard whirled around, only to see a forest-green saber at eye level with him. He closed his eyes. Never to open them again.

Yoda turned as the Guard collapsed...his head bouncing away from his shoulders and off to the edge of Palpatine's desk. Palpatine...Yoda looked to his left and right. Palpatine had vanished.

Yoda's long ears perked up. He sensed movement. Whirling around, faster than the eye could blink, he faced Palpatine. Or rather Palpatine - behind a forest of blue-white lightning. The lightning slammed into Yoda, wracking his small frame with the Dark Side volts. Convulsing from the sheer power, Yoda was sent flying through the air, where he crashed against the wall. He slid down it, and sat there...his smoldering back against the cool steel. His head was limp, and it fell to his chest.

Palpatine smiled, lowering his hands. Then, he clapped - the noise booming as loud as the groans of the crumpled door.

"An un-expected surprise, I must say, Master Yoda. Unexpected, but most certainly welcome. You do know, afterall, how kindly I greet my guests..."

Palpatine stepped over the door, his cloak brushing against the crimson corpses of his Elite Guard. He glanced at them momentarily, and back again to Yoda. Yoda stirred, his left eye opening and finding Palpatine. The Sith Lord stopped his movement abruptly; as if frozen. Yoda's other eye opened. And he groaned. The freak was in pain. Palpatine smiled, but made no effort to move forward.

Yoda saw the hilt of his lightsaber, some ten feet away. The Force lightning crept along the groves and buttons of the hilt, sparking and dancing in its hostile way.

"I am curious, Master Yoda, as to why you decided to drop in. If you survived this long, I wonder why you would do something so foolish as to come here. Perhaps your over-active sense of nobility took over? Perhaps you want to die a warriors death...amusing Master Yoda. You are indeed a breed apart from the rest of the Jedi..."

Yoda coughed softly, his gaze never leaving Palpatine. "Understand why, you never will. Eludes you, the answer does. Even now..."

Palpatine frowned. The freak was at his mercy, and it was patronizing him? He raged inside. The fool should be begging, not scolding. So why wasn't it?

Yoda moved. Placing his little palm flat against the wall, he rose. Palpatine's gaze followed him. Yoda brushed off his cloak, stood to his full height, and faced the Sith Lord, his hands at his side.

"A reason why I came here, there is. A goal, I have." Yoda declared. "At an end, your reign is, Lord Sidious. Ending, this nightmare is."

Before Palpatine could let a vicious retort fly loose, Yoda's hand shot forward. The very equivilant to a Force punch slammed into Palpatine's chest - knocking the very wind from him. With an "ooof!", he was sent flying off his feet. His flight was stopped only by the interferance of his hard desk. Palpatine slumped against it, gasping for air.

"Finish the Sith, I will." Yoda said, stepping forward.

Encore!

Master Windu ran quickly to front of the Jedi Temple and there lied two bodies one belonging to Anakin Skywalker and the other to Obi-Wan Kenobi, Master Windu gasped at this sight for both the bodies had been dismembered. Standing over the remains was Count Dooku with a twisted grin on his face. His former good looks, strong facial features, and brown eyes had been replaced with a face that could only belong to a Sith Lord. His eyes were now yellow and his face gnarled and twisted. "You will pay for the lives of these innocent men!" Windu informed. "I have beat you once before, and shall again!'' Dooku retorted. Windu then dropped his robe and ignited his lightsaber. "Your not going to win this time Dooku!". The Count then pulled his lightsaber from under his cape and it ignited with an evil hiss. Windu charged for the Count delivering wide powerfull blows while the Count defended with utmost precision.

Originally posted by Nai Fohl
Seeing that Anakin is not able to defeat Obi-Wan who would easily getting defeated by Dooku I have to say that Anakin wouldn't survive the first task.

That would result in Dooku doing the work in the temple and then killing Obi-Wan on Mustafar. Then Yoda would have taken Luke and Leia with him to Dagobah and in the OT we would have faced Luke and Leia with 2 decades of Jedi training (so both as powerful as Luke is when he married Mara Jade) kicking Vaders and Palpatines sorry asses through the death star. 😛

No because Dooku would probably have killed Padme then, it was Obi-Wan that brought her there and back and it was he who found out that Anakin was the father.

Originally posted by kamikz
No because Dooku would probably have killed Padme then, it was Obi-Wan that brought her there and back and it was he who found out that Anakin was the father.

Why should Dooku kill Padme ? Dooku will kill Anakin meaning the only one left to know that Anakin will have children is Padme herself. Now...Obi-Wan will never travel to Mustafar because he only knew where Anakin would go because Padme knew it but no one - except Sidious himself - would know where Dooku is going.

That would result in the following storyline:

1. Dooku killing Anakin
2. Dooku doing the massacre in the Jedi Temple
3. Dooku traveling to Mustafar and kill the CSS leaders
4. Dooku returning to Coruscant and fighting + killing Obi-Wan
5. Sidious defeat Yoda
6. Padme dying because Anakin is dead.
7. At least one of the children (more likely Luke) will go to Dagobah with Yoda and receive training from infancy on.
8. Luke kicking Dookus and Sidious asses badly in OT times.

Yeah ok your right, but in your note before you say " Dooku kills Obi-Wan on Mustafar" so I was referring to that. Also Yoda didn't take Luke and Leia to Dagobha before so why would he now, at least one of them would go with Bail Organa right? Also Dooku would probably be dead in the OT, over 100 years old.

Somebody; that's damn good writing. Keep it up.

Originally posted by Darth Somebody
Palpatine stepped over the door, his cloak brushing against the crimson corpses of his Elite Guard. He glanced at them momentarily, and back again to Yoda. Yoda stirred, his left eye opening and finding Palpatine. The Sith Lord stopped his movement abruptly; as if frozen. Yoda's other eye opened. And he groaned. The freak was in pain. Palpatine smiled, but made no effort to move forward.

Yoda saw the hilt of his lightsaber, some ten feet away. The Force lightning crept along the groves and buttons of the hilt, sparking and dancing in its hostile way.

"I am curious, Master Yoda, as to why you decided to drop in. If you survived this long, I wonder why you would do something so foolish as to come here. Perhaps your over-active sense of nobility took over? Perhaps you want to die a warriors death...amusing Master Yoda. You are indeed a breed apart from the rest of the Jedi..."

Yoda coughed softly, his gaze never leaving Palpatine. "Understand why, you never will. Eludes you, the answer does. Even now..."

Palpatine frowned. The freak was at his mercy, and it was patronizing him? He raged inside. The fool should be begging, not scolding. So why wasn't it?

Yoda moved. Placing his little palm flat against the wall, he rose. Palpatine's gaze followed him. Yoda brushed off his cloak, stood to his full height, and faced the Sith Lord, his hands at his side.

"A reason why I came here, there is. A goal, I have." Yoda declared. "At an end, your reign is, Lord Sidious. Ending, this nightmare is."

Before Palpatine could let a vicious retort fly loose, Yoda's hand shot forward. The very equivilant to a Force punch slammed into Palpatine's chest - knocking the very wind from him. With an "ooof!", he was sent flying off his feet. His flight was stopped only by the interferance of his hard desk. Palpatine slumped against it, gasping for air.

"Finish the Sith, I will." Yoda said, stepping forward.

Ok, i am only going to say this one last time.....

THE BOOK IS NOT CANON! KIT DID NOT LOSE HIS HEAD ON THE ROTS MOVIE, BUT HE DID ON THE BOOK. THE MOVIE IS THE RELEVANCY AND CORRECT BASIS OF WHAT HAPPENS IN THE STAR WARS UNIVERSE! IF SOMETHING IN THE BOOK WAS SORELY INCORRECT, THAT MAKES IT NOT CANON! LUCAS HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE BOOK AS WELL!

Shit son, the book ain't gospel. Go home.

Originally posted by Darth Somebody
I'm wondering, however, where you say that Kit Fisto and the others were killed off guard? If memory serves, all four Jedi Masters had their lightsabers drawn, ignited, and held at the ready. This signifies that they were prepared - Lordsorgo. I don't think you'll have any proof to support that theory.

Sidious was simply faster, smarter, and stronger. He wiped out two of them - sparred with Kit (and as Darth Windu so nicely put it - held his own for ALL of those seconds - a great achivement...Lol). Then Sidious swiped at him, and killed him.

Then Mace is a whole different story. The Star Wars databank says that Mace overpowered Sidious and disarmed him fairly. I'm willing to admit that - if the site's information IS true to its word.

Good, well....

Dooku handed Mace his ass and in turn, Sidious got his ass handed to him by Windu. Ironic, eh? I sure as hell think so.

If memory serves, all four Jedi Masters had their lightsabers drawn, ignited, and held at the ready. This signifies that they were prepared - Lordsorgo. I don't think you'll have any proof to support that theory.

Ok, i am sure they expected an old man to spin from his table, freak out and start raping jedi left, right and center.

Agen didn't expect shit. If Sassee did, that's good for him! Same with Kit.

But unfortunatly enough for you, we are talking of Sidious and Dooku, not Sidious, Kit, Agen, Sassee and Mace.

Lol, Count Dooku - your first quote isn't from the book. It was me and Janus and Darth Windu - in story form - predicting how several of the Revenge of The Sith fights should have gone.

Lol pay attention. Damn.