Originally posted by lando005
but your the one who stated he doesnt like to go past the sound barrier on earth i would assume he would do it only when he's in a pinch i dont think that's the case with this fight
Yes, he's said it before. However, writers tend to ignore that, and make him go as fast as they want him to go on Earth.
Originally posted by batdude123
Such as... ?One electromagnetic pulse, and Doom's armor would malfunction. 🙂
Then why didn't Mags do that to Doom when he took over the world and gave Mags prep time to beat him with pretty much everything at his disposal and Doom still continuously pwned him.
Doom has always treated Mags like his b***h
It just goes to show you that being more powerful doesn't always mean they are superior ✅
Originally posted by lando005
you dont think doom's armour is emp sheilded from the likes of magneto? doom is very well aware of magneto's level of power he'll be ready for whatever he could do
What are you talking about? He doesn't have prep for this fight, and he doesn't have anything to shield himself from an EMP, or merely a body pull (where Magneto rips you completely in half).
Originally posted by Grimm22
Then why didn't Mags do that to Doom when he took over the world and gave Mags prep time to beat him with pretty much everything at his disposal and Doom still continuously pwned him.Doom has always treated Mags like his b***h
It just goes to show you that being more powerful doesn't always mean they are superior ✅
Yeah... those are called 'plot devices.' 😂 Doom couldn't logically do anything to Magneto. Especially with his shields up. 🙂
Originally posted by batdude123like i said doom knows mags powerset inside and out that armour of his has been built to take on almost any superhuman on earth at a moments notice
Doom doesn't have squat on Magneto. Magneto can easily disable Doom's armor if he so chooses, however writers wouldn't let that happen.
Originally posted by lando005
like i said doom knows mags powerset inside and out that armour of his has been built to take on almost any superhuman on earth at a moments notice
His armor is magnetically resistent, that is true. However, the technology Doom has isn't immune to an EMP from Magneto (considering Magneto disabled EVERY SINGLE machine on the PLANET with on his his EMP blasts). 😉
Originally posted by batdude123he's had that type of perperation for years now if he wasnt somehow protected from magnetic fields or pulses doom would have been beaten long a go with an electromagnet or something else to that effect
What are you talking about? He doesn't have prep for this fight, and he doesn't have anything to shield himself from an EMP, or merely a body pull (where Magneto rips you completely in half).
Originally posted by batdude123I'd like to see the context of this, because its the best piece of evidence you have that he can turn on the speed in a split second.
There are MANY feats that negate what you're bringing up:-flew around the world before Lois could speak another word
Originally posted by batdude123Sound like momentum again, just like in 'Sacrifice.'
-flew across the galaxy in moments
Originally posted by batdude123Again, momentum, momentum, momentum.
-beat Bizarro in a race who stalemated a blitzing Zoom-knocked out a blitzing Zoom
-flew to one of Jupiter's moon in a couple minutes
-flew to the sun in seconds
-caught 500 (or more) aliens in mid-air before any of them could react
-speedblitzed an entire CITY full of villains before any of them could do anything about it (in fact, it looked like he was toying with them to boot)
Originally posted by batdude123Well then, that ends this debate. If he can, he doesn't like to. So he'd probably avoid it. So what's the difference in this fight? I could name several dozen fights against real baddies and probably see it no more than the twice I've noted. If that's the case, and you've provided the reason he doesn't like using it, then it stands to reason that Superman would use the 'speedblitz' at most 1 out of 10 variations of his fights. So for that argument, I'll stipulate that his 'speedblitz' is your 'pwnorz speedblitz' and one fight of the ten goes to Superman and Magneto because of your 'pwnorz speedblitz.' I still give him and Magneto two more for other reasons. So 7/10 Hulk and Doom. Check.
You also forgot to mention the fact that he doesn't like to go passed the speed of sound while on Earth because it causes atmospheric disturbances. That doesn't mean that he can't, however. 🙂
Originally posted by batdude123his powers were boosted at the time he cant normally generate that kind of pulse
His armor is magnetically resistent, that is true. However, the technology Doom has isn't immune to an EMP from Magneto (considering Magneto disabled EVERY SINGLE machine on the PLANET with on his his EMP blasts). 😉
Originally posted by lando005
he's had that type of perperation for years now if he wasnt somehow protected from magnetic fields or pulses doom would have been beaten long a go with an electromagnet or something else to that effect
Like I said, his armor IS magnetically resistent. However, Magneto can polarize ANY material (not just metal) on a molecular level.
Nobody has ever used an EMP on Doom before. What you're saying about Doom's armor is speculation AT BEST.
Originally posted by batdude123honestly now in the world they live in you dont think someone of doom's intellignce hasnt already taken precautions agains emps? doom who comes up with near flawless plans, doom who has ruled the world multipule times over and has upsured the powers of cosmic beings?
Like I said, his armor IS magnetically resistent. However, Magneto can polarize ANY material (not just metal) on a molecular level.Nobody has ever used an EMP on Doom before. What you're saying about Doom's armor is speculation AT BEST.
I happen to agree with batdude123 that Magneto does not need physical augmentation to reverse poles or use EMPs, even on a planetary scale. Yet, lando005 brings up a good point. Last time he did it, he was on that stupid drug, I think Fabian Cortez amped him up on another one... Anyway, I'm sure he can do it anyway and I assumed so. He does need time to prep it though, so the EMP's I was thinking of were smaller, more localized ones because Doom's the last guy on Earth to give Magneto time to meditate and take a deep breath.
BTW, the whole point about diamteric magnetism and its utilities was thoroughly debunked in another Magneto vs. thread. If I remember correctly, all organic molecules are affected by magnetism, but diametric magnetism is the weakest form of all. The most anybody's been able to do is levitate a frog. Woopie.