jollyjim311
Scruffy Nerf Herder
Originally posted by jollyjim311
Tisk, tisk.At least Rampant has read earlier in this thread, and looked as to why people think what they do.
I say it's a tough fight, but Vader wins.
Why?
*He has crushed the dark woman with a huge tree, a feat that is easily above anything we've seen from almost anybody. It doesn't sound that impressive, but, if you see the comic, you'll know what I mean. With that one showing alone it can be concluded that he'd rip through most force defences and thrash him with the force. He has also:
*Held Boba Fett in place with the force, his grip around him being compared to steel.
* Popped a severed (living) head while it was in a chest without any concentration.
* Thrown a choking officer dozens of feet into the air.
* Ripped apart wrosher trees with the force (the same type of trees that were unphased by heavy blaster fire).
* Choked one person, sent another one flying dozens of feet, and threw a sword with the force into a third, all at the same time with no gestures or apparent struggle.
* Choked an officer from a ridiculous distance (In ESB).
* Threw debris at Luke (and another Jedi Master in RODV) to overwhelm them.
* Choked a Jedi while unarmed.
* Held Master Choi, a very powerful Jedi Master, in the air with the force.
* Threw his lightsaber an assumed great distance and killed one person and mortally wounded another (lived due to immediate medical attention), while a Jedi that was closer to the targets was trying to use the force to stop him.
* When circled by predators, he reached out sending them all flying dozens of feet in every direction.
* Owned a group of common thugs with the force, one of whom got sent flying back 50+ feet into a stone wall which crumbled with the force of the blow.
* Learned from Sidious.
* Resisted Sidious' lightning, with no saber and after being beat down, long enough to pick him up and throw him down the reactor shaft.
* A lot more.
As far as lightsaber skills go:
* Carved through 20+ wookiees in seconds.
* Beat Obi Wan.
* Beat ESB Luke.
* Toyed with one of the most deadliest duelists in the galaxy as if he was a child (using kicks and showing a lot of agility) in Crimson Empire.
* Owned two Jedi Knights who had seen action in the clone wars and worked very well together.
* Beat down some padawans in one move...
* Uses elements from many different styles (even the "Most dangerous" Including Makashi and Djem So) and uses only one hand with immense physical strength.
* Has lightsaber resistant armor. (A powerful swing from Luke only sizzled his shoulder).
* A lot more...
He has a few specific advantages to his name:
* Semi lightsaber-resistant armor. The light swings of Makashi that are enough to take out a non- armored opponent (like we see in AOTC, what happens to Obi Wan) would not take out Vader so easily.
* Form V. Form V uses a lot of physical strength to overwhelm opponents, and is particularly good against Makashi. Vader is one of the physically strongest duelists we've seen.
* Vader is patient and thinks. Speaks for itself (Not saying Dooku isn't, but, it will help a lot).
* Greater dark side studies. He has spent more time with Sidious training, and has access to many of the dark holocrons that were previously stored within the Jedi Temple.
* Knowledge of opponent. One of the biggest factors in this fight that has been overlooked, is that Vader knows of Count Dooku, while Vader is a mystery to Dooku. He knows what he is capable of, how he acts while fighting, and what it takes to beat him.
Also, Vader is 80% of a powerful Sidious (One who has an extra 20+ years of fully dedicating himself to darkside research with unlimited supplies after Dooku was scared shitless of him).
I hate copying and pasting. Don't make me do it again.
*Stabs Vader*