Cyber Ninja(fox) Vs Spiderman

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Hey, it happened. Issue number? Honestly don't remember, it's been years...hell, I dont even remember why they were fighting...perhaps someone reading this will remember and post the scan. I remember becuase I'm not a wolverine fan and was shocked to see that back in the day. In case you haven't noticed, I don't exactly go around lying.

Even without that...Wolvie has put Spidey on the ropes before. If he can do it...fox can easily do it as well.

On the overall validity of bios...they don't tell the whole story or NOBODY would beat superman without kryptonite or magic.

I don't get it, we cant use feats like beating thor and hulk, but we can use feats that suit you?

Feat wars don't make a good argument.

Originally posted by jinzin
considering neither of those were mutually hostile fights...not much....

too bad spiderman doesn't fair too well when things get mutually hostile though.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
okay, sincerely people, what exactly do u think spiderman is gonna do to destroy frank yeager, web him to death?!?!?! {a web that he can run circles around and make pizza bases out of before it even hits the ground!}

You know what noone has made a convincing argument, but xx beat xx, so I'm just ignoring most of these.

Honestly the match is close but jesus

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
WOlverine hasn't put spiderman on the ropes, and you keep using this as an argument.

I don't get it, we cant use feats like beating thor and hulk, but we can use feats that suit you?

Feat wars don't make a good argument.

So Wolvie never grabbed spidey and shoved him against a tree while opening his claws in spideys face in mcfarlanes run of Spiderman?

How exactly will Spidey beat CN? Webbing won't work...his spidersense is nearly useless against someone as fast as him. Ninjas sword will cut spidey. Without pis, cis, in a room with just these two. Ninja will kill pete... pete is no trained killer and will hesitate as well. Ninja won't.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
So Wolvie never grabbed spidey and shoved him against a tree while opening his claws in spideys face in mcfarlanes run of Spiderman?

How exactly will Spidey beat CN? Webbing won't work...his spidersense is nearly useless against someone as fast as him. Ninjas sword will cut spidey. Without pis, cis, in a room with just these two. Ninja will kill pete... pete is no trained killer and will hesitate as well. Ninja won't.

wolverine shoving spiderman when spiderman didn't want to fight means little.

spiderman has webbed up wolverine numerous times

Spiderman has wiped out the xmen, WITH wolverine

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Well without CIS you shot down your own argument.

wolverine shoving spiderman when spiderman didn't want to fight means little.

spiderman has webbed up wolverine numerous times

Spiderman has wiped out the xmen, WITH wolverine

Originally posted by Creshosk
Wait, Wolverine shoving Spiderman when Spiderman didn't want to fight means little, but webbing up wolverine and beating the x-men when they didn't want to fight him means alot?

I keep trying to get them to stop using these examples, and explain how someone wins

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
So Wolvie never grabbed spidey and shoved him against a tree while opening his claws in spideys face in mcfarlanes run of Spiderman?

Nice try though.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
So Wolvie never grabbed spidey and shoved him against a tree while opening his claws in spideys face in mcfarlanes run of Spiderman?

How exactly will Spidey beat CN? Webbing won't work...his spidersense is nearly useless against someone as fast as him. Ninjas sword will cut spidey. Without pis, cis, in a room with just these two. Ninja will kill pete... pete is no trained killer and will hesitate as well. Ninja won't.

Yet Spiderman, with the aid of his Spider sense, is still constantly able to dodge Green Goblin. Who is as fast as he is.

Or wait, better exampe. With his spider sense, Spidey is still always able to dodge Scorpion. Who is FASTER than Spidey.

Wait, I've got more. The Lizard. Quicksilver.

Hah. That's a great example there. Quicksilver. Goes about...Mach 10 I believe? He didn't go that fast when they fought though, about Mach 3. Which is still a hell of a lot faster than CN. Yet, what's this? Spider sense allowed Spidey to defeat Quicksilver.

And if I recall...Speed Demon? And some other speedsters I forgot the name of.

So...what's your point? They're about the same speed. I understand and accept that. But you must accept that Spidey will have a second's prior knowledge of what CN will do before he does it, giving him plenty of time to dodge his attacks. Including this sword that you seem to think Spidey will just stand there and take the gut.

And according to vs. matches, this is bloodlust. Spidey will be using the best of his abilities. He will be using all his strength and such. He won't be holding back.

Otherwise, I can say that CN may be holding back in this fight, since apparently he did for Snake. And I don't think you want that.

Spider sense will work just fine.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Well without CIS you shot down your own argument.

wolverine shoving spiderman when spiderman didn't want to fight means little.

spiderman has webbed up wolverine numerous times

Spiderman has wiped out the xmen, WITH wolverine

But Spiderman dodges everything...i mean... not wanting to fight certainly means that you let a madman nearly take your nose out with his claws right?

Spidey is faster than Wolvie, why did he not dodge?

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
But Spiderman dodges everything...i mean... not wanting to fight certainly means that you let a madman nearly take your nose out with his claws right?

Spidey is faster than Wolvie, why did he not dodge?

Who said he dodges everything?

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Yet Spiderman, with the aid of his Spider sense, is still constantly able to dodge Green Goblin. Who is as fast as he is.

Or wait, better exampe. With his spider sense, Spidey is still always able to dodge Scorpion. Who is FASTER than Spidey.

Wait, I've got more. The Lizard. Quicksilver.

Hah. That's a great example there. Quicksilver. Goes about...Mach 10 I believe? He didn't go that fast when they fought though, about Mach 3. Which is still a hell of a lot faster than CN. Yet, what's this? Spider sense allowed Spidey to defeat Quicksilver.

And if I recall...Speed Demon? And some other speedsters I forgot the name of.

So...what's your point? They're about the same speed. I understand and accept that. But you must accept that Spidey will have a second's prior knowledge of what CN will do before he does it, giving him plenty of time to dodge his attacks. Including this sword that you seem to think Spidey will just stand there and take the gut.

And according to vs. matches, this is bloodlust. Spidey will be using the best of his abilities. He will be using all his strength and such. He won't be holding back.

Otherwise, I can say that CN may be holding back in this fight, since apparently he did for Snake. And I don't think you want that.

Spider sense will work just fine.

How did you come to the conclusion that Spidey will have a second?
Better yet...knowing you're going to die a second beforehand won't help you in battle.

In bloodlust, CN won't be holding back either, has deadlier options, and is a far better trained/skilled fighter.
Nobody has given an example of how spidey will win. Just that he might be able to theoretically dodge here and there.

The quicksilver thing definetely sounds like PIS.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
He didn't want to fight, I don't see your point here.

Who said he dodges everything?

So if you don't want to fight someone, you let them put a knife to your throat?

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
So if you don't want to fight someone, you let them put a knife to your throat?

Wolverine has been dodged by spiderman.

HOw about when he ran circles around the xmen, dodged quicksilver, what about those?

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
You mean like he schooled the xmen, since we can use pis/cis

Where did you find PIS with the CN examples?

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
How did you come to the conclusion that Spidey will have a second?
Better yet...knowing you're going to die a second beforehand won't help you in battle.

In bloodlust, CN won't be holding back either, has deadlier options, and is a far better trained/skilled fighter.
Nobody has given an example of how spidey will win. Just that he might be able to theoretically dodge here and there.

The quicksilver thing definetely sounds like PIS.

Lets use facts, spiderman is faster, and stronger.

If you missed the reason, I recommend you review the thread again.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Was he trying to dodge him, no.

Wolverine has been dodged by spiderman.

HOw about when he ran circles around the xmen, dodged quicksilver, what about those?

Yes, total inconsistency there... he has fairly even fights with wolverine, yet runs circles around the x-men while shooting one liners.

NO PIS there right? So which is it?

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Yes, total inconsistency there... he has fairly even fights with wolverine, yet runs circles around the x-men while shooting one liners.

NO PIS there right? So which is it?

What do you mean fairly even fights wolverine, what does this have to do with dodging?

He's dodged faster, lets use logic.

SPiderman is superhumanly fast.

Logan is peak humanly fast?

Are you arguing that he cannot dodge logan?

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I haven't heard ANY reason for CN winning, period, I've heard featwars as usual.

Lets use facts, spiderman is faster, and stronger.

If you missed the reason, I recommend you review the thread again.

Then obviously you haven't been reading.

Lets face facts. They are in the same strength level/Speed level and Ninja has deadlier weapons as well as being a better fighter.

No PIS needed here.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Then obviously you haven't been reading.

Lets face facts. They are in the same strength level/Speed level and Ninja has deadlier weapons as well as being a better fighter.

No PIS needed here.

And his range is poor, so let me ask you a question, because you aren't saying anything really.

What is harder to dodge, a bullet, or a stream of water from a hose?

Then stop using plot devices...

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
What do you mean fairly even fights wolverine, what does this have to do with dodging?

He's dodged faster, lets use logic.

SPiderman is superhumanly fast.

Logan is peak humanly fast?

Are you arguing that he cannot dodge logan?

Let's see what he didn't dodge. Spidey has been hit with a bullet before. He's fast, but not infallible.

Let's use logic, how did Logan get him if Spidey is that fast and has his precog?
OK, spidey didn't want to fight...why not still dodge logan?