Originally posted by CosmicSurferOkay good argument, but lets not use too many plot devices and cinematics here.
Grey Fox is fast enough to cut a mass of tripwires, grab the person that was tied up in the tripwires, and jump with him out of the way before the C4 attached to the tripwires could explode. In the 15 or so seconds it takes someone to die. Can Spiderman pull a feat like this? who knows, just maybe. But I doubt it.From [b]point-blank range
, he casually blocked machine gun fire, that's every single bullet. In the GameCube version, Fox sliced a bullet in half after it left the gun. These are reflexes that puts Spiderman's to total shame. He held up the leg of a Metal Gear that was trying with all its might to crush him. Spiderman is incapable of pulling a feat like this. And he took several direct blows from said machine. He could jump several stories with ease, and move more or less like Spiderman.Why are you all still debating this. Gray fox wins. I gave the reasons why and if you played the game, both the Playstion and *especially* the Gamecube versions, you'd all agree with me. To say otherwise is ignorant and foolish. He's basically Spiderman on crack armed with a mono molecular blade and a blaster, not to mention the stealth camo as well. This is a slaughter for poor old Petey. [/B]
His reflexes aren't better than peters, and he doesn't have a warning system.
Originally posted by TwisterGameXha i view threads loong before i post in them, and i have nothing to say to you, ive been here longer too
I know, you qouted that garbage, just so i could see it, right ?
Ok then, that whole post was uncalled for, C took it to far now. Now i unblock him, just so I could use a certain button. good job for qouteing him. Did he call you in here to qoute it for him ? I never seen you before. I guess he called you. Even on ignore he ask his friend to qoute just so I could see it. Your hard efforts to try and piss me off, even after You been on ignore, by calling your friend over here. ok then.
nice try though, get it right next time, k?
so arrogant thinks everyone is insulting him, he needs to be ignored
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Okay good argument, but lets not use too many plot devices and cinematics here.
Either way peter's cinematics are more impressive and his comic showings.His reflexes aren't better than peters, and he doesn't have a warning system.
How about you give me references or post images of Peter pulling anything that can match Grayfox's feats. Don't just tell me Spiderman has better reflexes because he clearly doesn't. Unless proven otherwise.
Originally posted by CosmicSurfer
How about you give me references or post images of Peter pulling anything that can match Grayfox's feats. Don't just tell me Spiderman has better reflexes because he clearly doesn't. Unless proven otherwise.
Righty, I'm not sure if you are aware of peters upgrades or anything.
He has 30000 lb lifting sttrength.
15x agility of a person
15x speed of a person
20x reflexes of a person
precognition
Can detect where the attack is originating, the threat levell, and choose to dodge it before it happened.
He ran circles around the xmen, thor, ff, sinister six.
Stopping trains, lifting subway cars, being a blur, attacking from all angles.
His distance attack is hard to avoid with a tensile strength of 120,000 lb per meter.
I still think this is close though.
Originally posted by TwisterGameXWolverine is more durable and has more stamina and his weapons cannot be removed.
For the record, guys go read Spiderman Vs Wolverine. This guy said Wolverine could just stab spiderman and win, and yet Ninja is Faster than wolverine and more Agile, and has a katana sword, but this guys argue for Spiderman.
If you'll notice I said that Wolverine would outlast spiderman. Wolverine would take a beating. . .a beating that CN cannot take.
Wolverine has more stamina than either CN or Spiderman. He waits for the other to tire.
If you can't see these obvious differences then you really did a poor job of reading my arguments on that thread.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Some people don't understand game mechanics, its like trying to tell them why superman loses to bank robbers on his game.
exactly...the reason why batman loses in fist fights to 3 or 4 unarmed men in Batman Begins the video game....he took 10 all with guns in the movie...at once...and he dies immediately when he gets shot! whats that all about...i thought he had a Nomex survival suit that could deflect bullets and was tear-resistant! 🙁
Originally posted by brazHa!!
exactly...the reason why batman loses in fist fights to 3 or 4 unarmed men in Batman Begins the video game....he took 10 all with guns in the movie...at once...and he dies immediately when he gets shot! whats that all about...i thought he had a Nomex survival suit that could deflect bullets and was tear-resistant! 🙁
lol, the batfans would eat that up.
How was that game?
Originally posted by Creshosk
Wolverine is more durable and has more stamina and his weapons cannot be removed.If you'll notice I said that Wolverine would outlast spiderman. Wolverine would take a beating. . .a beating that CN cannot take.
Wolverine has more stamina than either CN or Spiderman. He waits for the other to tire.
If you can't see these obvious differences then you really did a poor job of reading my arguments on that thread.
Wasnt argueing his stamina, Was saying you said he could tag spidey, and you agreed that he grab spidey, and you agreed to some of the pics. Thats a good point on Wolverine though on, how he could outlast.
CN has an exoskeleton, that took a hit from a metal gear, more than once, pressing him against the wall, then holding up a leg. Besides, hes has good reflexes himself and Blocks machine gun fire, with his long sharp sword, which could get Spiderman like Wolverines claws.
Originally posted by braz
exactly...the reason why batman loses in fist fights to 3 or 4 unarmed men in Batman Begins the video game....he took 10 all with guns in the movie...at once...and he dies immediately when he gets shot! whats that all about...i thought he had a Nomex survival suit that could deflect bullets and was tear-resistant! 🙁
We been through on how comic book character games are not the same as, a game which its cannon is the game, and originated from a game. basically the story and everything is the game.
Originally posted by TwisterGameXNo, we've been through how movies are the same for comics and games and to stop using them.
We been through on how comic book character games are not the same as, a game which its cannon is the game, and originated from a game. basically the story and everything is the game.
using YOUR perspective, snake beat cyberninja, spiderman's punches are harder...
That and webbing aren't like bullets, at all.
Originally posted by TwisterGameXOnly by outlasting him to the point that Spiderman got tired.
Wasnt argueing his stamina, Was saying you said he could tag spidey,
That is a stamina issue.
Originally posted by TwisterGameXOnly when Spidey gets tired. . .
and you agreed that he grab spidey,
Originally posted by TwisterGameXWhich ones specifically?
and you agreed to some of the pics.
Originally posted by TwisterGameXIt's basically all he really has, as Spiderman is the fastest of the two.
Thats a good point on Wolverine though on, how he could outlast.
And this is also assuming that CIS is applied. . .
Originally posted by TwisterGameXAnd what strength hit is that? 5 tons? 10 tons?
CN has an exoskeleton, that took a hit from a metal gear,
Originally posted by TwisterGameXOnly if Spiderman tired. . . you'll notice a low success rate of wolverine hitting spiderman with the claws out. . . and Wolverine also held back a bit, there were a few spots where Wolverine hit him claws sheathed, but that was usually when Spiderman ran out of options due to his moral character.
more than once, pressing him against the wall, then holding up a leg. Besides, hes has good reflexes himself and Blocks machine gun fire, with his long sharp sword, which could get Spiderman like Wolverines claws.
But of course I don't imagine CN to have better stamina, or even the same as Wolverine.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Righty, I'm not sure if you are aware of peters upgrades or anything.He has 30000 lb lifting sttrength.
15x agility of a person
15x speed of a person
20x reflexes of a person
precognitionCan detect where the attack is originating, the threat levell, and choose to dodge it before it happened.
He ran circles around the xmen, thor, ff, sinister six.
Stopping trains, lifting subway cars, being a blur, attacking from all angles.
His distance attack is hard to avoid with a tensile strength of 120,000 lb per meter.
I still think this is close though.
Is this the new Spiderman that gave birth to himself by ripping out of a giant spider, alien style? You know the one where Spidey gets organic webbing and the new ability to talk to bugs. Is he that much more powerful than before?
Originally posted by Creshosk
Only by outlasting him to the point that Spiderman got tired.That is a stamina issue.
Only when Spidey gets tired. . .
Which ones specifically?
It's basically all he really has, as Spiderman is the fastest of the two.
And this is also assuming that CIS is applied. . .
And what strength hit is that? 5 tons? 10 tons?
Only if Spiderman tired. . . you'll notice a low success rate of wolverine hitting spiderman with the claws out. . . and Wolverine also held back a bit, there were a few spots where Wolverine hit him claws sheathed, but that was usually when Spiderman ran out of options due to his moral character.
But of course I don't imagine CN to have better stamina, or even the same as Wolverine.
Gray Fox's cybernetic armour enhances not only his strength, but his agility, speed, stamina, reaction time, durability; seemingly any human attribute up to nearly 20-30x normal human. Along with that, he sports a razor-sharp katana, possibly with vibro-blade qualities, capable of deflecting bullets and slicing through apparently any material with little resistance.
Wait so thats the only way Wolverine could beat spiderman, is to get him tired ?
Originally posted by CosmicSurferYes
Is this the new Spiderman that gave birth to himself by ripping out of a giant spider, alien style? You know the one where Spidey gets organic webbing. Is he that much more powerful than before?
I'm not saying he's owning anyone or anything, I was just asking you to give it a weeeeeeee bit more thought.
I think its a tie...
Originally posted by TwisterGameXAll he is saying is the persons stats and going "he wins".
Gray Fox's cybernetic armour enhances not only his strength, but his agility, speed, stamina, reaction time, durability; seemingly any human attribute up to nearly 20-30x normal human. Along with that, he sports a razor-sharp katana, possibly with vibro-blade qualities, capable of deflecting bullets and slicing through apparently any material with little resistance.Wait so thats the only way Wolverine could beat spiderman, is to get him tired ?
I've yet to hear a strategy.
Originally posted by CosmicSurfer
Is this the new Spiderman that gave birth to himself by ripping out of a giant spider, alien style? You know the one where Spidey gets organic webbing and the new ability to talk to bugs. Is he that much more powerful than before?
Ripping out of a giant Spider, and giving birth to himself ?
that sounds nasty. I knew he got an upgrade but didnt know how.
Originally posted by Creshosk
Wolverine is more durable and has more stamina and his weapons cannot be removed.If you'll notice I said that Wolverine would outlast spiderman. Wolverine would take a beating. . .a beating that CN cannot take.
Wolverine has more stamina than either CN or Spiderman. He waits for the other to tire.
If you can't see these obvious differences then you really did a poor job of reading my arguments on that thread.
Dude, if Spiderman felt really nasty, he would web Wolvy up good to the point where he'd be incapacitated, punch Logan in the stomach and drive his fist right under Logan's adamantium ribcage and pull his freaken heart out.
DEAD LITTLE HAIRY RUNT!!! 😈
Originally posted by CosmicSurferIt would be fatal to him...
Dude, if Spiderman felt really nasty, he would web Wolvy up good to the point where he'd be incapacitated, punch Logan in the stomach and drive his fist right under Logan's adamantium ribcage and pull his freaken heart out.DEAD LITTLE HAIRY RUNT!!! 😈
Originally posted by CosmicSurfer
Dude, if Spiderman felt really nasty, he would web Wolvy up good to the point where he'd be incapacitated, punch Logan in the stomach and drive his fist right under Logan's adamantium ribcage and pull his freaken heart out.DEAD LITTLE HAIRY RUNT!!! 😈
well he'd have to successfully web wolvie up first... his track reocrd for such ain't so great man...