Top 10 Jedi Duelists of the PT Era

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Damn. Nice turnaburn. As far as the Star Destroyer, he guides it down to crash on a massive Imperial cannon. That's in both comic and novel. And go to the Battlebar thread and read the ToW excerpts.

Originally posted by Gideon
Damn. Nice turnaburn.
Wait. Admission? Stop it, man, you're scaring me. I've had enough scares in the past week as it is, I DON'T NEED THEM OVER THE WEB.
As far as the Star Destroyer, he guides it down to crash on a massive Imperial cannon. That's in both comic and novel.
Under his own power? What...

Originally posted by Faunus
Wait. Admission? Stop it, man, you're scaring me. I've had enough scares in the past week as it is, I DON'T NEED THEM OVER THE WEB.

Well, duh. You're on your A-game this week.

Under his own power? What...

Yes. According to the novelization, he summons the power and weight of the Star Destroyer in "one finger" or some shit. The comic shows an awesome mini-fight between His Imperial Majesty and STARKILLAH!

Originally posted by Gideon
Well, duh. You're on your A-game this week.
Truth. But please, "A-Game" talk brings back memories of Numan.
Yes. According to the novelization, he summons the power and weight of the Star Destroyer in "one finger" or some shit. The comic shows an awesome mini-fight between His Imperial Majesty and STARKILLAH!
And then "Starkiller" blows himself up with Palpatine's lightning or something? Meh.

The art looks decent, though, from what I've seen.

What version of the fight do you want? The novelization's or the comic's?

I guess that means they're different.

Both, but you needn't go into excruciating detail unless you want to.

Damn, so the whole 'I brought down a Star Destroyer' feat is considered canon, after all. That certainly puts the apprentice a tier above many powerful characters, forcewise.

I heard he used the Force to manipulate an ion cannon or something to bring down the Star Destroyer.

Originally posted by Faunus
I guess that means they're different.

Both, but you needn't go into excruciating detail unless you want to.

They are different. The novelization really doesn't depict a fight between Starkiller and the Emperor; Palpatine electrocutes Kota, Starkiller interrupts by throwing debris, Palpatine drops to his knees and gives Starkiller the patented RotJ speech "strike me down." Starkiller refuses and Palpatine attacks Kota again. Starkiller steps between Palpatine and Kota, takes the lightning, and is described as going through unimaginable pain, takes two steps, grasps the Emperor, and the lightning electrocutes them both. He senses stormtroopers about too shoot at Organa, Mothma, and Bel Iblis, and so he takes on such Force power that he becomes one with it. He explodes into Force energy, disintegrates the stormtroopers, and attempts to engulf Palpatine and Vader. He succeeds in detonating the entire observation tower in what the comic depicts as a Star Destroyer sized explosion.

Palpatine and Vader survive, however.

In the comic book, Palpatine tells Starkiller to kill Vader after he defeats him in battle. Kota does the same thing in the novelization: he steals the Emperor's lightsaber with the Force, cuts down the Red Guard, and leaps at Palpatine; Palpatine fries him with Force lightning and knocks him out. The Emperor then levitates into the air and Starkiller attacks him, blaming the Emperor for everything that has gone wrong on his life, calling him Starkiller's TRUE master, the one responsible for his turn. Palpatine confirms this and blasts Starkiller across the room with Force lightning and disarms him. Starkiller retaliates by using the Force to hurl Palpatine up into the roof of the tower and then electrocutes him when he falls back down. Palpatine laughs and tells Starkiller to kill him. Starkiller is about to, but Kota tells him that if he does, the Emperor will have won. So Starkiller tells Kota to get the Senators out of here while he keeps Palpatine at bay. Palpatine jumps up and attacks Kota with Force lightning. Starkiller steps in the way and he and Palpatine have a face off with Force energy which culminates in a Star Destroyer sized explosion that leaves Starkiller dead and Palpatine left standing.

... Oh.

Kota's a jackass, then. And I thought Starkiller killed him early on.

Originally posted by Faunus
... Oh.

Kota's a jackass, then. And I thought Starkiller killed him early on.

He was blinded, but survived.

General Kota is one of my favorite TFU characters, second only to PROXY. He is very powerful. He laughs at Starkiller while simultaneously redirecting Sith lightning with his bare hand. He also redirects Starkiller's Force wave at him. They spar, and though Starkiller's raw power is in excess of Kota's, the General's skill with a lightsaber leaves Starkiller to muse that "a direct attack" wouldn't work. After he's blinded, he also lashes out in such a manner of telekinesis that he splits the TIE Fighter construction facility in half and sends it into critical phase.

queso dio!

Originally posted by Gideon
He was blinded, but survived.

General Kota is one of my favorite TFU characters, second only to PROXY. He is very powerful. He laughs at Starkiller while simultaneously redirecting Sith lightning with his bare hand. He also redirects Starkiller's Force wave at him. They spar, and though Starkiller's raw power is in excess of Kota's, the General's skill with a lightsaber leaves Starkiller to muse that "a direct attack" wouldn't work. After he's blinded, he also lashes out in such a manner of telekinesis that he splits the TIE Fighter construction facility in half and sends it into critical phase.

WTF? So now he's tall, white, samurai Yoda?

Originally posted by Faunus
WTF? So now he's tall, white, samurai Yoda?

Yes. But he is, presumably, weaker than Shaak Ti (given Vader's dialogue). He's no match for Yoda. But TFU really amps up the Force power of everyone, minus Vader and the Emperor. 😛

Deflecting lightning with the hands is Yoda's thing. Stupid Kota. With a first name like "Rahm," they could at least bring some diversity to the saga and make him Indian-looking, or "Chalactan" as the Indians are in SW (Depa, Dev). The black people have Haruun Kal, but the Asians and Hispanics are unrepresented. It's totally unAmerican.

That's the thing about TFU. It brings out the power of the Force itself, not just out of SA.

You make no sense, despite my relative omniscience. Random Jedi Masters shouldn't be capable of "bringing out the power of the Force" in a manner exceeding that which has been accomplished by the most Force-attuned beings in history.

Originally posted by Faunus
You make no sense, despite my relative omniscience. Random Jedi Masters shouldn't be capable of "bringing out the power of the Force" in a manner exceeding that which has been accomplished by the most Force-attuned beings in history.

My Master has enlightened me. You have no power over me, pretender! What I meant was that if "Random Jedi masters" display remarkable levels of power, their confirmed superiors would naturally be enhanced as well.

Then why has it never been displayed? If Kota (should be Indian) could tear a space station in half - which is really quite superior to Starkiller bringing down a Star destroyer - then Yoda should be able to pull chunks out of a moon.

Originally posted by Faunus
Then why has it never been displayed? If Kota (should be Indian) could tear a space station in half - which is really quite superior to Starkiller bringing down a Star destroyer - then Yoda should be able to pull chunks out of a moon.

See my explanation on TFU's novelization thread. We see contradictions like that throughout the entirety of canon, and not just with Force users. And then read the excerpt from teh Battle Bar.