Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
And they think it's baby-killing.Let's all note the inability to comprehend anything other than their own beliefs on this subject.
-AC
Perhaps it would be better to defend a specific period in the development of a fetus because past a certain point it is just as bad as the death penalty.......
Originally posted by Bardock42
I thought Spelljammer doesn't study because he would be influenced by "liberals" ...anyways a fetus is not more than an animal...at all....
Fetuses have 7/8 qualities to express a fully functioning creature bardock42..
Complex Organization.
Metabolism.
Resposiveness.
Growth.
Reproduction.
Evolution.
Ecology.
Originally posted by Spelljammer
Actually dope head, SpellJammer studies biology. A fetus is more like an animal, so he classefies it as animal abuse.
Thank goodness you didn't claim to be smart. This would be a severely contradictory comment had you accepted that claim.
Call me dopehead one more time and I'll report you. Because I've continually said I'm not.
Originally posted by Spelljammer
So yes, perhaps capital punishment kills an innocent man 1 out of 1,000 times.. (At that a lethal injection is hardly all that bad. It's quick and painless..)
I'd love you to see your father innocently put to death for a crime he didn't commit. I'm sure the fact that it's quick and painless would be a saving grace. Idiot.
Originally posted by Spelljammer
But you guys ritualy slaughter innocent creatures from the womb, watching with your cold dead eyes as you rip out a life from the woman's body, snapping bone and cartlidge, leaving your gloves bloody and full of inhummanity.. SpellJammer only wishes you had been the one to be aborted, instead of someone who might actually give a damn..
Ritually slaughter? Now who's talking like a dope head?
Funny how you mentioned the "life" in a "womans" body. It's HER body, not yours. Therefore what you think of it is irrelevant. It has nothing to do with you and you have absolutely NO right trying to force a woman to live in a certain way just because of how YOU believe things.
That's cool that you wish I had been aborted. I coincidentally hope you get run over by a big car, so we have more in common than once thought.
Soleran: How is it as bad? How is killing a man who has lived on Earth for a number of years, already had a life and people in it, equal to stopping a bunch of cells or a fetus BECOMING ALIVE and possibly having a shit life itself whilst ruining the life of the woman birthing it?
How? Maybe if we all concentrated on caring for the people who already live here rather than bringing more people in, we'd have a better world. Of course that's not the way due to people like Spelljammer shouting "Liberals hate freedom" while holding up a debate claiming that a woman shouldn't be able to do what she wants with her own body.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Thank goodness you didn't claim to be smart. This would be a severely contradictory comment had you accepted that claim.Call me dopehead one more time and I'll report you. Because I've continually said I'm not.
I'd love you to see your father innocently put to death for a crime he didn't commit. I'm sure the fact that it's quick and painless would be a saving grace. Idiot.
Ritually slaughter? Now who's talking like a dope head?
Funny how you mentioned the "life" in a "womans" body. It's HER body, not yours. Therefore what you think of it is irrelevant. It has nothing to do with you and you have absolutely NO right trying to force a woman to live in a certain way just because of how YOU believe things.
That's cool that you wish I had been aborted. I coincidentally hope you get run over by a big car, so we have more in common than once thought.
-AC
IF IF a fetus has what spelljammer explained then how is it different then the death penalty......instead of a multitude of people putting you to death one person has the entire descision and its all justified.
Originally posted by soleran30
IF IF a fetus has what spelljammer explained then how is it different then the death penalty......instead of a multitude of people putting you to death one person has the entire descision and its all justified.
That "fetus" is nobody elses business besides the woman's and maybe the father's. Not Spelljammer's. Deny that?
Spelljammer, you see, has this view that we are all responsible for one another. Hence him not wanting anyone to do anything that makes him feel or look bad. Despite them having no connection.
Killing someone who's possibly innocent, for eternity, is much worse. Because it involves an entire family and people not even associated with the family. Claiming otherwise is stupid.
-AC
For all you guys talking about abortion, I suggest you all go out and check out the movie Palindromes. It's an excellent examination of the mentality of both sides in the abortion issue, and is especially challenging to the views of "pro" abortion. Outstanding film that I think you guys would find interesting.
A) It's not.
B) I'm not offended, by any means. I just don't understand how it got beyond:
"You're a dopehead."
I'm not.
"You think it's ok to do drugs."
Yeah, whatever people choose. Nothing to do with me.
"So you're a dopehead."
No I'm not.
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It should have ended there and it would have with anyone else in possession of cognitive abilities above that of the garden slug. You are a different kettle of fish though.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
That "fetus" is nobody elses business besides the woman's and maybe the father's. Not Spelljammer's. Deny that?Spelljammer, you see, has this view that we are all responsible for one another. Hence him not wanting anyone to do anything that makes him feel or look bad. Despite them having no connection.
Killing someone who's possibly innocent, for eternity, is much worse. Because it involves an entire family and people not even associated with the family. Claiming otherwise is stupid.
-AC
Yeah and this is the same point with abortion.....you summed it up. When my tax dollars pay for something at least here in USA I want accountability so if it costs me those tax dollars I want to know why........
The point I made was that abortion has nothing to do with you in the sense of "She can't do that!".
If you don't agree with abortion and don't want to be paying for it, fine. At least you're not out there saying "I don't agree so she can't have it." You're saying "I don't agree so I don't want it done with my money." Which is fair enough. Spelljammer is saying she can't/shouldn't be able to do it based on what he believes. Not taking into account that we don't all believe as he does.
-AC
Originally posted by soleran30
Yeah and this is the same point with abortion.....you summed it up. When my tax dollars pay for something at least here in USA I want accountability so if it costs me those tax dollars I want to know why........
Abortion should be privately funded.. Period..
Originally posted by Spelljammer
Precisely yet again. Abortions cost MONEY. Tax money at that. Why should SpellJammer and everybody else have to be responsible for "the woman's choice"? If it's her choice, then it should come out of her paycheck.Abortion should be privately funded.. Period..
Despite Backfire often thinking Spelljammer is full of jam, he has to agree with spelljammer right here.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Spelljammer is saying she can't/shouldn't be able to do it based on what he believes. Not taking into account that we don't all believe as he does.-AC
How scary.
Just because you did a complete 180, in which I agree with you, doesn't mean you haven't said that before. You know you have, I know you have.
You don't get the concept that we're all different. Hence you not believing in people's rights to take whatever drugs they choose. You personally said you think marijuana should be legalised but not other drugs that YOU don't like. Proves my point.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
How scary.Just because you did a complete 180, in which I agree with you, doesn't mean you haven't said that before. You know you have, I know you have.
You don't get the concept that we're all different. Hence you not believing in people's rights to take whatever drugs they choose. You personally said you think marijuana should be legalised but not other drugs that YOU don't like. Proves my point.
-AC
Now I have actually seen BigEvil post that he does agree with it if it is privately funded before..he's right there.....