Originally posted by IKC
Avis, your idea has zero support in the comics. Everything regarding harnessing a star/ripping out the core involves using Naga Sadow's ship and equipment to do it. It is no Sith spell.
We've seen Aleema Keto blow up a star. We also see Exar using an amulet to defeat Nadd's spirit, does that indicate Exar is a weakling who can't defeat Nadd without the amulet?
Again, please make sure your postulate can be supported by hard evidence. You have made as many assumptions as Glentract. It's the same as me saying since Vodo could resist Exar's freeze ability, it only works on weaklings. Unfounded. Or that since Mace beat Sidious in the movies, he would beat him 100% of the time. Again, unfounded.
You seem to forget the same Sadow dragged a solar flare of another star and was able to create an illusion of his fleet in seconds (a feat Dark Nest Luke attempted to do on a single ship and it tired him out). And that a single amulet of Sadow made Sidious much more powerful than his movie counterpart. If you believe Kun is stronger than Sadow, you'd have to give evidence.
You cite examples of The Sith War, but you completely neglect the Golden Age of the Sith, which describes in detail Sadow's abilities as "Sith Magic."
And we see 2 individuals harness Sadow's ship, we see 2 individuals harness the Starforge, does that mean everyone is capable of running it? Hardly. Unfounded hypotethical.
They don't officially call them "godlike" and the "golden age" for nothing, you know. So what do you do? You assume them weak and ceaselessly try to undermine their accomplishments. Good job.
Originally posted by Illustrious
We've seen Aleema Keto blow up a star. We also see Exar using an amulet to defeat Nadd's spirit, does that indicate Exar is a weakling who can't defeat Nadd without the amulet?Again, please make sure your postulate can be supported by hard evidence. You have made as many assumptions as Glentract. It's the same as me saying since Vodo could resist Exar's freeze ability, it only works on weaklings. Unfounded. Or that since Mace beat Sidious in the movies, he would beat him 100% of the time. Again, unfounded.
You seem to forget the same Sadow dragged a solar flare of another star and was able to create an illusion of his fleet in seconds (a feat Dark Nest Luke attempted to do on a single ship and it tired him out).
You cite examples of The Sith War, but you completely neglect the Golden Age of the Sith, which describes in detail Sadow's abilities as "Sith Magic."
And we see 2 individuals harness Sadow's ship, we see 2 individuals harness the Starforge, does that mean [b]everyone
is capable of running it? Hardly. Unfounded hypotethical.They don't officially call them "godlike" and the "golden age" for nothing, you know. [/B]
It helps when you read everything I write, and you have the source material on hand, Illustrious.
We've seen Aleema Keto blow up a star... by using Sadow's ship just as Sadow himself did. We did see Exar defeat Nadd by using an amulet, and it is correct that at that point in time he was much weaker than what he would eventually become. But I guess you don't register the concept of time passing.
My argument is supported by the evidence: the source material. It's right in front of me. And to say that Exar's freeze spell wouldn't work on Vodo is nonsense, given that Vodo wasn't in the building when Kun cast it. And I'm a believer that Sidious threw the fight, remember?
You seem to forget that Sadow performed those feats at two different times. The reason Sadow could create illusions of that magnitude is due to his having designed a starship specifically for that purpose, much like his "star-ripping" ship was designed for its purpose. You also seem to forget that Aleema Keto could generate these illusions just as well in her own specially designed chamber on her ship.
Pardon me, Illustrious, but have I not explained sufficiently that anyone that is Force sensitive can use Sadow's ship to rip the core from a star? Aleema Keto is a weakling and she performed just as well as Sadow in this feat. The only flaw was that she was not told what the consequences of her actions would be.
It does mean that any Force sensitive can use it. Neither Aleema nor Naga showed strain of any sort while performing their feats. Your hypothesis is the one that's unfounded, Illustrious, given there's zero evidence, not even a shred of indication, to support it. (Yes, we see two individuals harness it. Does that mean that Exar, for example, couldn't? Of course not. Nor does it mean that anyone weaker could not harness it. There is no indication of that whatsoever.)
They "officially call them" godlike because the Sith are wont to build legends around themselves. Even the scrolls Kun studied used overblown language regarding their "legends."
Their power, Illustrious, is not what you think it is.