Revan vs Kyp Durron

Glentract are you mad. Kyp is nowhere near that great. Revan would actually take him with ease. He would take Luke pretty easily let alone Kyp Durron.

Kyp yeah, I don't know about Luke though...the bastard's pretty over-powered.

Meh. I'm not saying Kyp would lose to Revan. But I doubt that Kyp is as good Luke.

So is Revan. It would be close but Revan would take him.

Can you give me a general page number of when he lost?

Originally posted by kingkman
So is Revan. It would be close but Revan would take him.

Prove that.

Glentract, you have yet to prove that Kyp would win, and still haven't addressed why Kyp lost to -- or at least wasn't capable of defeating -- a Vong Slayer.

Re-read it. Kyp lost to four(4) of them. The Slayers also had the element of surprise because Kyp(or any Jedi) had never fought against an amphistaff that long before. Also note that this was after Kyp had already been fighting in long battle.

Aright. So he was defeated by four Vong Slayers, while he was tired. Okay. . .

Luke owned seven, eight Vong Slayers, while Jacen and Jaina took one apiece. And this was after they'd fought through the mothership, after they'd slaughtered dozens, and for Luke, hundreds of Vong warriors. Granted, this new information is more realistic, but still puts Kyp a good deal below Luke, and not that far above Jacen or Jaina. The two of them were able to hold off two or three Slayers at a time, while Luke took the brunt of the attack. And when he finished with his, he pwn3d the others.

Face it. Kyp is good, but he'll never be Luke.

You have to put it more into perspective though. Kyp had no idea what to expect. Remember that these guys used longer amphistaffs then had ever been seen before. Luke, Jaina, and Jacen all knew what to expect from these guys. Also note that Luke has a shard of the Kaiburr Crystal in his lightsaber which makes it burn much more powerfully then a regular lightsaber(an more effieciently too). The biggest problem with defeating Slayers was because of their thick armor that Kyp couldn't cut through but Luke could.

You still haven't explained how Kyp can be weak if he controlled a black hole just like Luke did and killed the Leviathan with, according to second_coming27, force lightning.

Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
Prove that.

I can't, neither can you. Nobody can prove anything. That's why we are debating. We are trying to make the other believe.

You have to provide evidence for what you are stating though, and you haven't done that.

Revan was able to defeat a really powerful Sith who was able to regenerate his health multiple times. That is a minor thing Revan did and Kyp never did anything as great as that.

Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
You have to provide evidence for what you are stating though, and you haven't done that.

And the reason that I haven't provided evidence is because it's all so obvious that i didnt think i needed to.

I've already informed you that you need to, so hop to it.

Originally posted by kingkman
Revan was able to defeat a really powerful Sith who was able to regenerate his health multiple times. That is a minor thing Revan did and Kyp never did anything as great as that.

Originally posted by kingkman
Revan was able to defeat a really powerful Sith who was able to regenerate his health multiple times. That is a minor thing Revan did and Kyp never did anything as great as that.

Who is to say Revan didn't regenerate from the Jedi too?

BTW, defeating the Leviathan and controlling a black hole are FAR more impressive than anything Revan has done.

Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
Who is to say Revan didn't regenerate from the Jedi too?

BTW, defeating the Leviathan and controlling a black hole are FAR more impressive than anything Revan has done.

This:

He actually killed two of them, the first was a baby, then he killed the mother.