Execution of Saddam?

Originally posted by KharmaDog
My one "useless cameo" compared to your pages and pages of standard issue AC responces, yes, it hardly seems right.

Yes AC, the problem must be with all the people that you've had misunderstandings, flame wars or heated debates with. It couldn't possibly be you.

No, he couldn't POSSIBLY be wrong in any way shape of form. Any POV other than his is automatic cause for labelling me and people like me (or anyone else he disagrees with) as part of the problem.

HIS problem.

Originally posted by KharmaDog
My one "useless cameo" compared to your pages and pages of standard issue AC responces, yes, it hardly seems right.

Yes AC, the problem must be with all the people that you've had misunderstandings, flame wars or heated debates with. It couldn't possibly be you.

A) If you bothered to read the thread you'd noticed quite blatantly that I've been on topic. If I'm on topic in a way you dislike, I believe they call that something. Tough sh*t I do believe.

B) If you bothered to read the thread you'd quite clearly see that in this case he had a problem with something that I continually explained and even after doing so, he insisted that my explanation was somehow fake.

What more can I do for people like that when the level of denial reaches "Well that's what you're saying but what I think you said is still what you said"? Nothing, is the answer.

Originally posted by Dagons Blade
No, he couldn't POSSIBLY be wrong in any way shape of form. Any POV other than his is automatic cause for labelling me and people like me (or anyone else he disagrees with) as part of the problem.

HIS problem.

How many times do I have to tell you that I wasn't solely picking you out, before you actually go "Ok, maybe I'm wrong in saying he did"? Genuinely curious. Because I've tried to discuss the topic with you and you keep bombing it in the other direction.

So:

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
So basically what you were saying in the above post (I didn't quote all of it) is that...sure, if we kill him we're screwed...but if we don't there will be trouble anyway, so we might aswell kill him? There's no reason to though. There is no reason to kill the man. Locking him up will achieve justice. He can't act out any more crimes. Case closed.

Your elaborate Al Qaeda A-Teamesque break out was nicely scripted, but it's just not going to happen is it? Your rationale is flawed and it's you doing the damage to your own debate.

"There's trouble either way, so might as well have him dead."

If there's trouble coming anyway, why bring more by making a martyr out of Saddam? It follows no logic.

I never got that. "Put yourself in someone else's shoes." Why? I'm not them. I'd not ask someone who's just lost their loved one to say "Put yourself in my shoes, I've not lost anyone. You'll feel better." So why should I put myself in their position? I know how I would act because I've lost loved ones.

I said saying it doesn't make you cool. Where you extracted the rest from is a mystery to me.

To be on topic: What you are suggesting with regards to the death vs imprisonment debate is your personal opinion, correct? Your personal opinion follows vengeance rather than justice. As I said to Capt, justice is what we're after. Not vengeance. At least it should be. The goal is to stop criminals, not killing them because we think they're bastards.

Well, I'd rather not get into that. Though if I were asked to wager a guess on the amount of people with common sense on this forum I'd not estimate in the high 90 percent, let's say that much.

On topic once again: You are judging that Saddam be put to death because of what you feel emotionally towards the cause. Not what would work out for the best.

You saying that remark about Saddam being let back out onto the streets is stupid, unless you were being sarcastic.

I don't know whether you were referring to me or not, I'll not assume either way. What I will say is that just because I don't believe the man should be put to death, doesn't mean I believe he is exempt from justice.

I'm saying lock him up for life with no privileges. Who said he deserves to be treated differently because he has palaces? I don't believe anyone should be put to death, so infact I'm being more equal than you here.

Prison, regardless of it's failed points, is no luxury is it? Let's stop calling prison luxury. That's not exactly being realistic.

Here's the deal. If you want Saddam and his alikes to be stopped, then one can only assume it's because you don't like what they do. Putting them in prison achieves your goal. So what happens while they're in there is irrelevant isn't it?

You want these people brought to justice so they can be stopped from committing atrocities, correct? They can't commit atrocities in prison. Justice achieved. You not liking the fact that they get fed etc is just your base, barbaric need for revenge kicking in. It has nothing to do with justice being served. Once they've been halted, justice is done. Anything after that, including the overkill that IS the death penalty, is just pointless hypocricy.

Why should your dollars be spent? Why? I'll tell you why. Because you and people like you are the one's b*tching, whining and moaning about terrorists and how they should be brought to justice out of one side of your mouth. Then out of the other side, saying "As long as it's cheap."

You either want justice, or you want revenge. If life-long imprisonment, regardless of it's flaws, is not good enough, then you aren't after justice at all and you should shut your mouth.

-AC

If you feel like commenting on topic and contributing to the thread as I have, then go for it. That's all I'm interested in.

Dagon, if you reply with that pointless crap one more time I'll consider your points and debate conceded and move on with whatever else is going to be discussed here. Because the only conclusion to be drawn from your endless attempts to run from the debate is that you are sensing the end of it.

-AC

Why don't you both just take pics of your dicks?...it would be easier.

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
Why don't you both just take pics of your dicks?...it would be easier.

Dude, PLEASE. The last thing I want to hear after shovelling snow all day is AC going "Mommy, how come HE has one and I DON'T"?

Not to mention that his mother would have to explain to him that his is "just like a penis, only smaller."

And the point becomes proven. Thanks Dagon, the maturity of your debate continues to smack me in the face. For laughs though:

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
So basically what you were saying in the above post (I didn't quote all of it) is that...sure, if we kill him we're screwed...but if we don't there will be trouble anyway, so we might aswell kill him? There's no reason to though. There is no reason to kill the man. Locking him up will achieve justice. He can't act out any more crimes. Case closed.

Your elaborate Al Qaeda A-Teamesque break out was nicely scripted, but it's just not going to happen is it? Your rationale is flawed and it's you doing the damage to your own debate.

"There's trouble either way, so might as well have him dead."

If there's trouble coming anyway, why bring more by making a martyr out of Saddam? It follows no logic.

I never got that. "Put yourself in someone else's shoes." Why? I'm not them. I'd not ask someone who's just lost their loved one to say "Put yourself in my shoes, I've not lost anyone. You'll feel better." So why should I put myself in their position? I know how I would act because I've lost loved ones.

I said saying it doesn't make you cool. Where you extracted the rest from is a mystery to me.

To be on topic: What you are suggesting with regards to the death vs imprisonment debate is your personal opinion, correct? Your personal opinion follows vengeance rather than justice. As I said to Capt, justice is what we're after. Not vengeance. At least it should be. The goal is to stop criminals, not killing them because we think they're bastards.

Well, I'd rather not get into that. Though if I were asked to wager a guess on the amount of people with common sense on this forum I'd not estimate in the high 90 percent, let's say that much.

On topic once again: You are judging that Saddam be put to death because of what you feel emotionally towards the cause. Not what would work out for the best.

You saying that remark about Saddam being let back out onto the streets is stupid, unless you were being sarcastic.

I don't know whether you were referring to me or not, I'll not assume either way. What I will say is that just because I don't believe the man should be put to death, doesn't mean I believe he is exempt from justice.

I'm saying lock him up for life with no privileges. Who said he deserves to be treated differently because he has palaces? I don't believe anyone should be put to death, so infact I'm being more equal than you here.

Prison, regardless of it's failed points, is no luxury is it? Let's stop calling prison luxury. That's not exactly being realistic.

Here's the deal. If you want Saddam and his alikes to be stopped, then one can only assume it's because you don't like what they do. Putting them in prison achieves your goal. So what happens while they're in there is irrelevant isn't it?

You want these people brought to justice so they can be stopped from committing atrocities, correct? They can't commit atrocities in prison. Justice achieved. You not liking the fact that they get fed etc is just your base, barbaric need for revenge kicking in. It has nothing to do with justice being served. Once they've been halted, justice is done. Anything after that, including the overkill that IS the death penalty, is just pointless hypocricy.

Why should your dollars be spent? Why? I'll tell you why. Because you and people like you are the one's b*tching, whining and moaning about terrorists and how they should be brought to justice out of one side of your mouth. Then out of the other side, saying "As long as it's cheap."

You either want justice, or you want revenge. If life-long imprisonment, regardless of it's flaws, is not good enough, then you aren't after justice at all and you should shut your mouth.

-AC

Dagon?

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri

Dagon, if you reply with that pointless crap one more time I'll consider your points and debate conceded and move on with whatever else is going to be discussed here. Because the only conclusion to be drawn from your endless attempts to run from the debate is that you are sensing the end of it.

-AC

Oh cry me a freakin' river. YOU'LL consider my points? Again, Mr. Internet All Star and his little clipboard he carries to every debate, judging people on how little or how much they respond to his transparency.

And the only conclusion I draw to YOU...is that you can't admit to the literal and thinly veiled translations of your thoughts about others who hold different opinions than yours. And your constant evasion of the issue in the face of my persistence not only shows your guilt, but it's also the form in which you, yourself, run from the responsibility of what you do and say.

You sensed the end of it by telling me to reply in part, or whole, or not at all.

"Not at all." This means you automatically declared yourself the winner.
There again when the ony 3 choices on the ballot card are AC, AC, and AC, it's clear to see who thinks he's the winner.

Oh Dagon, Dagon, Dagon....tsk.

Dagon...stop running for a sec.

If you chose not at all, instead of part or whole...I'm to blame? Hilarious. Anyway though, beyond all these great, on-topic, mature posts you are making. Let's just do this one more time:

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
So basically what you were saying in the above post (I didn't quote all of it) is that...sure, if we kill him we're screwed...but if we don't there will be trouble anyway, so we might aswell kill him? There's no reason to though. There is no reason to kill the man. Locking him up will achieve justice. He can't act out any more crimes. Case closed.

Your elaborate Al Qaeda A-Teamesque break out was nicely scripted, but it's just not going to happen is it? Your rationale is flawed and it's you doing the damage to your own debate.

"There's trouble either way, so might as well have him dead."

If there's trouble coming anyway, why bring more by making a martyr out of Saddam? It follows no logic.

I never got that. "Put yourself in someone else's shoes." Why? I'm not them. I'd not ask someone who's just lost their loved one to say "Put yourself in my shoes, I've not lost anyone. You'll feel better." So why should I put myself in their position? I know how I would act because I've lost loved ones.

I said saying it doesn't make you cool. Where you extracted the rest from is a mystery to me.

To be on topic: What you are suggesting with regards to the death vs imprisonment debate is your personal opinion, correct? Your personal opinion follows vengeance rather than justice. As I said to Capt, justice is what we're after. Not vengeance. At least it should be. The goal is to stop criminals, not killing them because we think they're bastards.

Well, I'd rather not get into that. Though if I were asked to wager a guess on the amount of people with common sense on this forum I'd not estimate in the high 90 percent, let's say that much.

On topic once again: You are judging that Saddam be put to death because of what you feel emotionally towards the cause. Not what would work out for the best.

You saying that remark about Saddam being let back out onto the streets is stupid, unless you were being sarcastic.

I don't know whether you were referring to me or not, I'll not assume either way. What I will say is that just because I don't believe the man should be put to death, doesn't mean I believe he is exempt from justice.

I'm saying lock him up for life with no privileges. Who said he deserves to be treated differently because he has palaces? I don't believe anyone should be put to death, so infact I'm being more equal than you here.

Prison, regardless of it's failed points, is no luxury is it? Let's stop calling prison luxury. That's not exactly being realistic.

Here's the deal. If you want Saddam and his alikes to be stopped, then one can only assume it's because you don't like what they do. Putting them in prison achieves your goal. So what happens while they're in there is irrelevant isn't it?

You want these people brought to justice so they can be stopped from committing atrocities, correct? They can't commit atrocities in prison. Justice achieved. You not liking the fact that they get fed etc is just your base, barbaric need for revenge kicking in. It has nothing to do with justice being served. Once they've been halted, justice is done. Anything after that, including the overkill that IS the death penalty, is just pointless hypocricy.

Why should your dollars be spent? Why? I'll tell you why. Because you and people like you are the one's b*tching, whining and moaning about terrorists and how they should be brought to justice out of one side of your mouth. Then out of the other side, saying "As long as it's cheap."

You either want justice, or you want revenge. If life-long imprisonment, regardless of it's flaws, is not good enough, then you aren't after justice at all and you should shut your mouth.

-AC

No?

*Clock ticks*

Only making yourself look worse.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Only making yourself look worse.

-AC

Actually he's not making himself look worse AC.

Please stop the hemorrhaging. Just walk away.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
And the point becomes proven. Thanks Dagon, the maturity of your debate continues to smack me in the face. For laughs though:

Dagon?

-AC

Maturity?

The fact that I refrained from calling you names and assuming the level of your age thru condescension about rattles and highchairs in the face of your needless assault already proves my maturity.

And people like you are never satisifed with anything anyone says to you anyway. So no matter what I or anyone else says, you'll automaticvally mark it as wrong because it's not what you want to hear.

Oh and it wasn't my maturity smacking you in the face...next time I take a piss, stay out of the way, cause I aim to please. And apparently you were happy, because you didn't move.

Next thing I suppose you'll want to be my personal toilet seat. ...

Originally posted by Dagons Blade
Maturity?

The fact that I refrained from calling you names and assuming the level of your age thru condescension about rattles and highchairs in the face of your needless assault already proves my maturity.

And people like you are never satisifed with anything anyone says to you anyway. So no matter what I or anyone else says, you'll automaticvally mark it as wrong because it's not what you want to hear.

Oh and it wasn't my maturity smacking you in the face...next time I take a piss, stay out of the way, cause I aim to please. And apparently you were happy, because you didn't move.

Next thing I suppose you'll want to be my personal toilet seat. ...

No it wasn't your maturity, must have been than high-brow, intellectual and much needed penis remark, plus the many other things. Anyway, last time, no excuses:

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
So basically what you were saying in the above post (I didn't quote all of it) is that...sure, if we kill him we're screwed...but if we don't there will be trouble anyway, so we might aswell kill him? There's no reason to though. There is no reason to kill the man. Locking him up will achieve justice. He can't act out any more crimes. Case closed.

Your elaborate Al Qaeda A-Teamesque break out was nicely scripted, but it's just not going to happen is it? Your rationale is flawed and it's you doing the damage to your own debate.

"There's trouble either way, so might as well have him dead."

If there's trouble coming anyway, why bring more by making a martyr out of Saddam? It follows no logic.

I never got that. "Put yourself in someone else's shoes." Why? I'm not them. I'd not ask someone who's just lost their loved one to say "Put yourself in my shoes, I've not lost anyone. You'll feel better." So why should I put myself in their position? I know how I would act because I've lost loved ones.

I said saying it doesn't make you cool. Where you extracted the rest from is a mystery to me.

To be on topic: What you are suggesting with regards to the death vs imprisonment debate is your personal opinion, correct? Your personal opinion follows vengeance rather than justice. As I said to Capt, justice is what we're after. Not vengeance. At least it should be. The goal is to stop criminals, not killing them because we think they're bastards.

Well, I'd rather not get into that. Though if I were asked to wager a guess on the amount of people with common sense on this forum I'd not estimate in the high 90 percent, let's say that much.

On topic once again: You are judging that Saddam be put to death because of what you feel emotionally towards the cause. Not what would work out for the best.

You saying that remark about Saddam being let back out onto the streets is stupid, unless you were being sarcastic.

I don't know whether you were referring to me or not, I'll not assume either way. What I will say is that just because I don't believe the man should be put to death, doesn't mean I believe he is exempt from justice.

I'm saying lock him up for life with no privileges. Who said he deserves to be treated differently because he has palaces? I don't believe anyone should be put to death, so infact I'm being more equal than you here.

Prison, regardless of it's failed points, is no luxury is it? Let's stop calling prison luxury. That's not exactly being realistic.

Here's the deal. If you want Saddam and his alikes to be stopped, then one can only assume it's because you don't like what they do. Putting them in prison achieves your goal. So what happens while they're in there is irrelevant isn't it?

You want these people brought to justice so they can be stopped from committing atrocities, correct? They can't commit atrocities in prison. Justice achieved. You not liking the fact that they get fed etc is just your base, barbaric need for revenge kicking in. It has nothing to do with justice being served. Once they've been halted, justice is done. Anything after that, including the overkill that IS the death penalty, is just pointless hypocricy.

Why should your dollars be spent? Why? I'll tell you why. Because you and people like you are the one's b*tching, whining and moaning about terrorists and how they should be brought to justice out of one side of your mouth. Then out of the other side, saying "As long as it's cheap."

You either want justice, or you want revenge. If life-long imprisonment, regardless of it's flaws, is not good enough, then you aren't after justice at all and you should shut your mouth.

-AC

Replying or not, Dagon? I'm asking you civilly. Yes or no?

Kharma, I'm trying to get him to reply on topic, he won't. If he chooses not to this time, I'll leave him.

I'm not going to leave a thread I've been fairly partaking in just because someone doesn't like an occurance.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
No it wasn't your maturity, must have been than high-brow, intellectual and much needed penis remark, plus the many other things. Anyway, last time, no excuses:

Replying or not, Dagon? I'm asking you civilly.-AC

Yeah, you ask me civilly
when it suits you...humbling yourself to suit the need?
Where was your civility before? After 5 pages of insults and condescension you turn civil? I seem to remember a Greek story
about a wooden horse offered in civility to the people of Troy....

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Kharma, I'm trying to get him to reply on topic, he won't.
If he chooses not to this time, I'll leave him.AC

You're LEAVING me? Oh jeez. Well THAT really hurts..🙄

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I'm not going to leave a thread I've been fairly partaking in just because someone doesn't like an occurance.AC

Why not, earlier you said my statements didn't make me look cool.
Just not cool enough for you, right? Why stay in a thread with someone whose difference of opinion isn't cool enough for you? Certainly there's others out there who can meet your standards for "coolness."

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Kharma, I'm trying to get him to reply on topic, he won't. If he chooses not to this time, I'll leave him.

Actually it looks like your tried to take the arguement down one path and it didn't work out for you, so now you are trying to get out with some dignity.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I'm not going to leave a thread I've been fairly partaking in just because someone doesn't like an occurance.

-AC

Don't play the victim, you were a willing participant and he took you to the cleaners. I tried to warn you, and I even pm'd you to tell you that you were looking foolish.

Now I'll just walk away and let you go down in flames. Doesn't matter anyhow, I'm guessing that this thread will soon be closed.

Kharma: As always, not sure what it is you're trying to gain. I'm trying to get him to go back to my argument. How you deduce I'm trying to get away from it is baffling. I'm not playing the victim, because I'm not one.

I just fail to see why all threads have to deteriorate because Dagon or someone like Dagon refuses to accept my explanation and go on some unneeded crusade with you chiming in trying to say "Leave it, AC" and then suggest that the thread be closed. It doesn't need to be.

Originally posted by Dagons Blade
Yeah, you ask me civilly
when it suits you...humbling yourself to suit the need?
Where was your civility before? After 5 pages of insults and condescension you turn civil? I seem to remember a Greek story
about a wooden horse offered in civility to the people of Troy....

You're LEAVING me? Oh jeez. Well THAT really hurts..🙄

Why not, earlier you said my statements didn't make me look cool.
Just not cool enough for you, right? Why stay in a thread with someone whose difference of opinion isn't cool enough for you? Certainly there's others out there who can meet your standards for "coolness."

No then. Shame really, because it was genuinely a good topic till you ran away.

I have no problem with your difference of opinion Dagon. At all. You have the right to say whatever you wish, you just don't seem to wanna afford me that same right. Which I find to be quite sad.

Furthermore, I've repeatedly tried to get back to a genuine, civil discussion with you (which was interrupted by your penis insults and harping on a misunderstanding which I cleared up for you) and you wouldn't have it. Not that I really care, because I'm not losing anything. When the thread picks up, I'll rejoin it with people who can discuss civilly as you were, but seemingly chose not to.

Au revoir.

-AC

Originally posted by KharmaDog
Actually it looks like your tried to take the arguement down one path and it didn't work out for you, so now you are trying to get out with some dignity.

Don't play the victim, you were a willing participant and he took you to the cleaners. I tried to warn you, and I even pm'd you to tell you that you were looking foolish.

Now I'll just walk away and let you go down in flames. Doesn't matter anyhow, I'm guessing that this thread will soon be closed.

Listen to the man, AC.

And I know why you stayed at the cleaners after I took you, watching the clothes go round, and round, and round in the pretty little washing machine. Same reason you went thru the car wash 10 times in a row-you liked the special effects but you couldn't stand the ending.

That also explains why I'm out of quarters too....

Victim play?

Yeah, and that above post is exactly why I'm right.

Out of the two of us, I'm not the one who is avoiding replying to you on topic am I? You are.

Originally posted by Dagons Blade
Maturity?

The fact that I refrained from calling you names and assuming the level of your age thru condescension about rattles and highchairs in the face of your needless assault already proves my maturity.

And people like you are never satisifed with anything anyone says to you anyway. So no matter what I or anyone else says, you'll automaticvally mark it as wrong because it's not what you want to hear.

Oh and it wasn't my maturity smacking you in the face...next time I take a piss, stay out of the way, cause I aim to please. And apparently you were happy, because you didn't move.

Next thing I suppose you'll want to be my personal toilet seat. ...

Here, this was the last post between you and I that was on topic:

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
So basically what you were saying in the above post (I didn't quote all of it) is that...sure, if we kill him we're screwed...but if we don't there will be trouble anyway, so we might aswell kill him? There's no reason to though. There is no reason to kill the man. Locking him up will achieve justice. He can't act out any more crimes. Case closed.

Your elaborate Al Qaeda A-Teamesque break out was nicely scripted, but it's just not going to happen is it? Your rationale is flawed and it's you doing the damage to your own debate.

"There's trouble either way, so might as well have him dead."

If there's trouble coming anyway, why bring more by making a martyr out of Saddam? It follows no logic.

I never got that. "Put yourself in someone else's shoes." Why? I'm not them. I'd not ask someone who's just lost their loved one to say "Put yourself in my shoes, I've not lost anyone. You'll feel better." So why should I put myself in their position? I know how I would act because I've lost loved ones.

I said saying it doesn't make you cool. Where you extracted the rest from is a mystery to me.

To be on topic: What you are suggesting with regards to the death vs imprisonment debate is your personal opinion, correct? Your personal opinion follows vengeance rather than justice. As I said to Capt, justice is what we're after. Not vengeance. At least it should be. The goal is to stop criminals, not killing them because we think they're bastards.

Well, I'd rather not get into that. Though if I were asked to wager a guess on the amount of people with common sense on this forum I'd not estimate in the high 90 percent, let's say that much.

On topic once again: You are judging that Saddam be put to death because of what you feel emotionally towards the cause. Not what would work out for the best.

You saying that remark about Saddam being let back out onto the streets is stupid, unless you were being sarcastic.

I don't know whether you were referring to me or not, I'll not assume either way. What I will say is that just because I don't believe the man should be put to death, doesn't mean I believe he is exempt from justice.

I'm saying lock him up for life with no privileges. Who said he deserves to be treated differently because he has palaces? I don't believe anyone should be put to death, so infact I'm being more equal than you here.

Prison, regardless of it's failed points, is no luxury is it? Let's stop calling prison luxury. That's not exactly being realistic.

Here's the deal. If you want Saddam and his alikes to be stopped, then one can only assume it's because you don't like what they do. Putting them in prison achieves your goal. So what happens while they're in there is irrelevant isn't it?

You want these people brought to justice so they can be stopped from committing atrocities, correct? They can't commit atrocities in prison. Justice achieved. You not liking the fact that they get fed etc is just your base, barbaric need for revenge kicking in. It has nothing to do with justice being served. Once they've been halted, justice is done. Anything after that, including the overkill that IS the death penalty, is just pointless hypocricy.

Why should your dollars be spent? Why? I'll tell you why. Because you and people like you are the one's b*tching, whining and moaning about terrorists and how they should be brought to justice out of one side of your mouth. Then out of the other side, saying "As long as it's cheap."

You either want justice, or you want revenge. If life-long imprisonment, regardless of it's flaws, is not good enough, then you aren't after justice at all and you should shut your mouth.

-AC

After this, you went on a crusade of penis insults and playground carwash analogies backed up by someone who has always had an inexplicable half-grudge with me (not that I care at all).

If you had replied and whooped my debate out of the window, fine. You didn't. You can't, but you clearly have enough in you to sit there, suck up the support and boast about that which you have never achieved.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
After this, you went on a crusade of penis insults and playground carwash analogies backed up by someone who has always had an inexplicable half-grudge with me (not that I care at all).
-AC

You have yet to take any responsibility to any insulting on your part. And refering to me as a cherleader for Dagon after I actually warned you to stop for fear of making yourself look worse is pretty cheesey of you.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Kharma: As always, not sure what it is you're trying to gain. I'm trying to get him to go back to my argument. How you deduce I'm trying to get away from it is baffling.

No then. Shame really, because it was genuinely a good topic till you ran away.

I have no problem with your difference of opinion Dagon. At all. You have the right to say whatever you wish, you just don't seem to wanna afford me that same right. Which I find to be quite sad.

Furthermore, I've repeatedly tried to get back to a genuine, civil discussion with you (which was interrupted by your penis insults and harping on a misunderstanding which I cleared up for you) and you wouldn't have it. Not that I really care, because I'm not losing anything. When the thread picks up, I'll rejoin it with people who can discuss civilly as you were, but seemingly chose not to.

Au revoir.

-AC

So basically, the thread was good until I stepped in, and the minute I fought back after you became condescending to me, I took all the fun out of it.

"I" ran away? Uh, more like I stayed, countered your POV and when that got too much for you, you fired back with your insults.

And I gave it back to you. And that, in your mind, legitimized your accusations of my lack of intelligence. You basically set a trap and fell in it when you couldn't take the fact that I was capable of a sustained battle of wits.

I like people like you-you tease the shit out of a dog every day, knowing the leash only goes so far, and when the dog escapes and bites you, it's automatically evil because it bit you. Regardless of the circumstances that caused it to bite, all you see is the end result, and not what led to it. And then it's victim time,with you in the lead role.

And I DID afford you the same right to an opposing POV. Seems that YOU were the one who dismissed all of it as unrealistic, and no good.

Nothing I said was right, and when you couldn't counter me with
reasons WHY you felt they weren't right, you chose to belittle me and condescend me with labelling and threats to 'shut my mouth.'

Dude, you get what you give. Had you been more civil, and not so quick to take the low road while professing moral and intellectual high ground, maybe this wouldn't have happened.

You want Saddam alive and in prison. Millions in Iraq and the world want him dead. And no matter how much we argue, the courts will ultimately decide his fate.

So if you see it that way, there is a higher power saying that we are BOTH wrong, and whose to say the judge won't act on HIS own personal feelings, as you accuse me of doing?

Anyway, you asked me to be civil, this is it. Now you can take this as such, or continue to accuse me of running. Your choice. As I said before, nothing I say will be right.

Don't say the same thing in PM and then post it here. If it pertains to topic, say it here. If not, say it in PM.

I appreciate your concern but to be worried about looking stupid I'd have to care what people thought.

Anyway, I'm not denying my arrogance. I'm not denying that I can be condescending. You are very quick to press me to admit that but it does surprise me that everyone is so quick to overlook the fact that Dagon has made posts in this thread for the past however many pages, completely aimed at me and not the topic, laced with direct and blatant insults. As opposed to my arrogant remarks that are taken as insulting.

We've been over this many times, I don't know why you continue to involve yourself. I has absolutely nothing to do with you. It's between me and Dagon.

He has yet to reply to my post, until he does, I'm not sure where this "cleaners" theory came from.

-AC

Originally posted by KharmaDog
You have yet to take any responsibility to any insulting on your part. And refering to me as a cherleader for Dagon after I actually warned you to stop for fear of making yourself look worse is pretty cheesey of you.

Hey,let's not burst his bubble. AC is always right and everyone else is wrong..why should HE have to take responsibility?Just like any good hypocritical politician, AC makes laws HE dosen't have to listen to...