Originally posted by Lana
Just says 'for disciplinary reasons'. For all we know, the could have simply mouthed off to a teacher or gotten in a fight - kids HAVE gotten thrown out of a school for that before. It's happened at my school.
we're on the same page right? you mean "thrown out" as in "expelled"
wow...times have changed indeed 😑
Originally posted by Jedi Priestess
I just got done telling you that I'm not going to respond to this part of anymore of your posts. Go do your mental jerk off with someone else.
I know you're not, hence why I said my case was closed. I've proven my point, take a chill pill, jeez.
Originally posted by Jedi Priestess
It means you should be checking into what your kid is up to. And FYI hearkening back to your assumption that I feel I am some kind of a "super" parent, nothing could be farther from the truth. In my early twenties when my oldest 2 were young, I was a lousy parent. Pretty much did very little to enrich their lives. My older daughter came out of it ok while my son is a complete and utter feckup today, which while not entirely my fault, I certainly hold a great share of the responsibility for.
Another self-indulgent parental musing. Please stop those. We get that you have kids, ok? It doesn't matter too much.
Secondly, checking into what your kid is "up to", yes. As I said when I proved my point earlier that you conveniently dodged:
"Haha, and despite your kids apparantly giving you no problems, you still checked their rooms "incase" they managed to slip something by you? Well then my point is proven.
Many parents do trust their kids enough not to go checking their rooms for dangerous materials. Contrary to your belief, it's not a good thing if you have to regularly search your kids rooms for dangerous things, even worse if you CHOOSE to."
Why is it worse? Because it indicates that despite all the parenting in the world, you still believe that they're capable of doing bad things independently of yo....oh wait. THAT would mean?!?! Yes, exactly.
Case closed.
-AC
There are always exceptions to the rules AC, surely you must know that. I never once said every child, every case. My point with my "parental musing" as you call it, was to disprove your point that I think Im some kind of be all end all parent. Which I believe was one of the points of your debate. Make up your mind. I think what the deal here is you cant handle it when someone honestly answers a point you've made by something that proves you wrong. And Lana in my opinion fighting in school is a major offense.
Originally posted by Jedi Priestess
And Lana in my opinion fighting in school is a major offense.
worthy of suspension, but to be thrown out of school?
i've had to defend myself, so technically i fought.
according to the same rational i would have deserved expulsion.
and before you say that there should be an exception for self
defense, keep in mind that most if not all schools approach fighting
in a "i dont care who started it" mentallity.
Originally posted by LanaSame here, but gnerally only for a history of... but that doesn't really mean anything.
Just says 'for disciplinary reasons'. For all we know, the could have simply mouthed off to a teacher or gotten in a fight - kids HAVE gotten thrown out of a school for that before. It's happened at my school.
Originally posted by Jedi Priestess
There are always exceptions to the rules AC, surely you must know that. I never once said every child, every case. My point with my "parental musing" as you call it, was to disprove your point that I think Im some kind of be all end all parent. Which I believe was one of the points of your debate. Make up your mind. I think what the deal here is you cant handle it when someone honestly answers a point you've made by something that proves you wrong. And Lana in my opinion fighting in school is a major offense.
You've not proven anything wrong yet, what was that about mentally jerking off? I never insisted you believed you were a super parent in any serious way.
Exactly. There are exceptions to the rules. That isn't applicable to my post though.
I'm sure you didn't believe that your kids were about to go killing people, did you? If the answer is no, then why search their rooms? To be safe, right? Fine. I just hope you realise that by doing this you are implying that kids are way more than capable of doing bad things independently of the parental unit. Not all parents feel the need to check their children's rooms for dangerous equipment if they are given no reason to.
This may very well have been the case. So "Where the feck are the idiot parents?" isn't an applicable opening to your debate. Good? Great. Finished.
-AC
Originally posted by Jedi Priestess
OK I misread it then. I thought she was speaking of suspension. That would be excessive unless there was a definite possibility of loss of life during this fight.
thats why im changing my outlook on this.
from what lana is saying it seems these days school
boards are dishing out expulshions for something as
common as fighting. 15 years ago i would have agreed to
your point of the connection with kicked out of school and
such a planned attack, since when i was in school,
only the psychotic douchebags got expelled. but from what i'm
learning here, my mind has changed
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriI'm sure you didn't believe that your kids were about to go killing people, did you?
-AC
To answer you honestly, yes actually I think my son is was indeed capable of taking another life and there have been times I wouldnt give him access to my house because I feared for my own life.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
You've not proven anything wrong yet, what was that about mentally jerking off? I never insisted you believed you were a super parent in any serious way.Exactly. There are exceptions to the rules. That isn't applicable to my post though.
I'm sure you didn't believe that your kids were about to go killing people, did you? If the answer is no, then why search their rooms? To be safe, right? Fine. I just hope you realise that by doing this you are implying that kids are way more than capable of doing bad things independently of the parental unit. Not all parents feel the need to check their children's rooms for dangerous equipment if they are given no reason to.
This may very well have been the case. So "Where the feck are the idiot parents?" isn't an applicable opening to your debate. Good? Great. Finished.
-AC
ac, not all kids are fascinated with firearms out of a want to kill. in fact most are not. she probably was just checking not because the thought her kids might be evil, but just stupid. and since most if not all kids are frikin stupid, its a wise move
:edit: then again, from the last post i stand corrected in JP's case. but if i had kids i would check regardless
of suspicion. like i said, kids are stupid
Originally posted by Jedi Priestess
To answer you honestly, yes actually I think my son is was indeed capable of taking another life and there have been times I wouldnt give him access to my house because I feared for my own life.
Exactly. If you had reason, then you obviously had the heads up.
If these parents were given no reason to believe their kids were anything more than a bit troublesome, why would they go scavenging around the room for destructive weaponry? Let's use logic. It wouldn't happen.
You are applying your experience to everyone else.
-AC
Originally posted by PVS
ac, not all kids are fascinated with firearms out of a want to kill. in fact most are not. she probably was just checking not because the thought her kids might be evil, but just stupid. and since most if not all kids are frikin stupid, its a wise move
You don't own weaponry and plan a massacre just because you're stupid. You do it because you want to kill.
Either way, if the parents in question have no reason to believe their kids are up to anything, most parents who do respect their kids aren't about to go ravaging their rooms. This is common sense and occurance.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriI've said it before and I'll say it again, most people (ARound here anyway) have knives. Guns on the other hand are somewhat rarer, but there is a trap shooting course in our school and shotguns aren't uncommon for properly trained and "safety certified" children to have a gun.
You don't own weaponry and plan a massacre just because you're stupid. You do it because you want to kill.Either way, if the parents in question have no reason to believe their kids are up to anything, most parents who do respect their kids aren't about to go ravaging their rooms. This is common sense and occurance.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
You don't own weaponry and plan a massacre just because you're stupid. You do it because you want to kill.Either way, if the parents in question have no reason to believe their kids are up to anything, most parents who do respect their kids aren't about to go ravaging their rooms. This is common sense and occurance.
-AC
I dont know about that, I went through both my other kids rooms and they have given me no reason to.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
You don't own weaponry and plan a massacre just because you're stupid. You do it because you want to kill.Either way, if the parents in question have no reason to believe their kids are up to anything, most parents who do respect their kids aren't about to go ravaging their rooms. This is common sense and occurance.
-AC
ac, in most of these cases the parents are not participating in their kids' lives anyway. so yeah, they had no reason to suspect anything. how can you suspect when you have nothing to do with them?