Jesus Resurrection was physical.

Satan exists in the Bible debbiejo, that is fact.
I've seen many people use the "judge not lest you be judged" quote many times but they are ignoring the rest of the passage. It continues "for by the measure you judge you will also be judged". If you are comfortable condemning people for their sins God will condemn you for your sins. I for one know that I have sinned and therefore should not be judged. It is as peejayd said: Christians are to judge each other and leave God to judge the rest.

Originally posted by Nellinator
Satan exists in the Bible debbiejo, that is fact.
I've seen many people use the "judge not lest you be judged" quote many times but they are ignoring the rest of the passage. It continues "for by the measure you judge you will also be judged". If you are comfortable condemning people for their sins God will condemn you for your sins. I for one know that I have sinned and therefore should not be judged. It is as peejayd said: Christians are to judge each other and leave God to judge the rest.

I've seen many people use the "judge not lest you be judged, for by the measure you judge you will also be judged" quote many times but they are ignoring the rest of the passage. It is a part of a paragraph. read the entire paragraph and interpret based on its entirety.

It is not a matter of comfort that allows a person to judge by these verses.

Matthew 7:1-5
1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye.

They are a warning to avoid judging others. This because, by judging others, we are ignoring our own errors. This passage states that until you are without sin you are unable to see clearly enough to judge. And all men sin.

Christ states that we should not judge, for we are not worthy to judge. We cannot judge anyone, not Christians, not others either. Christ himself said he does not judge unless the Father is there to oversee and validate the judgement. Claiming that we have the right to judge another, especially in condemnation, is not Biblical through the teachings Christ gave.

John 8:7-16
7 So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.
8 And again he stooped down, and wrote on the ground.
9 And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst.
10 When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee?
11 She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.
12 ¶ Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.
13 The Pharisees therefore said unto him, Thou bearest record of thyself; thy record is not true.
14 Jesus answered and said unto them, Though I bear record of myself, yet my record is true: for I know whence I came, and whither I go; but ye cannot tell whence I come, and whither I go.
15 Ye judge after the flesh; I judge no man.
16 And yet if I judge, my judgment is true: for I am not alone, but I and the Father that sent me.

^ Thank you Regret. I wish more Christians understood this.

YW 🙂

It always amazes me when Christians judge others. It is not what Christ taught.

Originally posted by Regret
YW 🙂

It always amazes me when Christians judge others. It is not what Christ taught.

I am also amazed when they strike out at people. That is also not taught by Jesus, with the one exception of striking out against evil. However, we must be careful.

Originally posted by Regret
I've seen many people use the "judge not lest you be judged, for by the measure you judge you will also be judged" quote many times but they are ignoring the rest of the passage. It is a part of a paragraph. read the entire paragraph and interpret based on its entirety.

It is not a matter of comfort that allows a person to judge by these verses.

They are a warning to avoid judging others. This because, by judging others, we are ignoring our own errors. This passage states that until you are without sin you are unable to see clearly enough to judge. And all men sin.

Christ states that we should not judge, for we are not worthy to judge. We cannot judge anyone, not Christians, not others either. Christ himself said he does not judge unless the Father is there to oversee and validate the judgement. Claiming that we have the right to judge another, especially in condemnation, is not Biblical through the teachings Christ gave.

Thank you

Originally posted by debbiejo
According to the Bible only God has the right to judge, the rest of us are to love!!

* according to the Bible, not only God will judge... Christ and the holy men of God will judge...

* however, my point is, most of the religious groups nowadays often broadcast that there is no salvation outside their group... by doing so, they already judged and condemned all people outside their group...

"But God will judge the ones outside. And you shall put out from yourselves the evil one."
I Corinthians 5:13

* true Christians judge with righteousness, so according to the Bible, Christians are allowed to judge but only within their Church... the verse obviously tells us that God will judge the people outside... 😉

Exactly.

What both peejayd and Regret said are true.
Judging is a waste of time anyway. I don't get anything from it and all it does is frustrate and irritate others.

Originally posted by Nellinator
Some excellent insights.

are allowed to judge but only within their Church...

So then the Baptist can only judge other Baptist, and the the Catholics can't judge the Baptists, and the Pentecostals can't the Muslims?.....and... 😖

And no one can judge the unbelievers.........Then quit telling me I'm going to hell. 😖mart:

Who is telling you that, Debs?

Christians can judge, or better said rebuke and correct other Christians.
Who can say you are going to hell? It is not for them to decide, it is God's decision. Besides, they do not know that you won't repent in the far future. I still have hope for you debbiejo 😄

Actually, I find the idea of the incarnation harder to grasp than a bodily resurrection.

The plologue of John's Gospel might be the most profound thing ever written...and its claims, the most staggering...

"In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God..."

Word, (Logos), meaning the eternally originating source of all rationality and order in the universe. Some have interpreted this passage as saying that the Son is the Word in the sense that he is God's perfect self-understanding and self-expression. So perfect, that the self-expression is God too.

John claims the following: that this Word (Logos) was itself a self-conscious being, identifiable with the Hebrew God, and actual architect of the world. What's more, this infinite, un-created being somehow permamently assumed the finite, human nature of a Jewish infant born in Bethlehem...without ceasing to be the Logos.

If you can get your mind around that, belief in a physical resurrection is no sweat.

Actually, if Christ's resurrection wasn't physical, Christianity loses all credibility.

While we're on the subject, what does everyone think of the Shroud of Turin? This thing gives me goosebumps every time I see it.

Originally posted by Dr. Zaius
...While we're on the subject, what does everyone think of the Shroud of Turin? This thing gives me goosebumps every time I see it.

It's not old enough.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
It's not old enough.

Actually, that's not true. Alot of evidence points to a botched carbon dating on the first scientific study. Many forensic experts now believe the cloth is much older than originally dated.

The theory that it's some kind of medieval forgery is absurd.

Originally posted by Dr. Zaius
Actually, that's not true. Alot of evidence points to a botched carbon dating on the first scientific study. Many forensic experts now believe the cloth is much older than originally dated.

The theory that it's some kind of medieval forgery is absurd.

The idea that the fire changed the carbon dating is absurd.

I believe it was a medieval forgery, because of the fact that if you wrap a cloth around a person, the face imprint would be distorted. The face on the Shroud of Turin is not distorted.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
The idea that the fire changed the carbon dating is absurd.

I believe it was a medieval forgery, because of the fact that if you wrap a cloth around a person, the face imprint would be distorted. The face on the Shroud of Turin is not distorted.

Fire wasn't the cause of the bad dating. My understanding is that after the cloth was damaged in the fire, patches of newer cloth were sewn on for repairs. There are many who think that the original cloth wasn't dated.

That aside, look at the image on the cloth! No one painted that. That's a photoelectric effect of some type!

Originally posted by Dr. Zaius
Fire wasn't the cause of the bad dating. My understanding is that after the cloth was damaged in the fire, patches of newer cloth were sewn on for repairs. There are many who think that the original cloth wasn't dated.

That aside, look at the image on the cloth! No one painted that. That's a photoelectric effect of some type!

What about the face not being right?

Try it some time, paint your face and have someone wrap a piece of cloth around your head. Then take it off and look at it. It will not look like the Shroud of Turin, it will be distorted.