GOKU and SUPERMAN

Started by Blue nocturne29 pages
Originally posted by Darth Macabre
As I said, with in it's range. Read what I write before you try to prove me wrong.

Doesn't it's range depend on the size also

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Originally posted by Blue nocturne
Doesn't it's range depend on the size also

No, the Sun to Mercury's Roche limit is a 54:1. While the orbital radius is 104:1.

But good read by the way. I didn't mean to sound like a snot, I actually enjoyed reading what you posted.

Originally posted by Darth Macabre
No, the Sun to Mercury's Roche limit is a 54:1. While the orbital radius is 104:1.

But good read by the way. I didn't mean to sound like a snot, I actually enjoyed reading what you posted.

Thank you

But back on topic Superman is durable but he isn't invincible....anymore he's been killed before I doubt he can with stand a blast that can destroy 833 planets and that's just ssj1 remember when majin buu got so mad he began to break reality goku deals with enemy's in that range of power post crisis superman doesn't stand a chance.

In the beginning of the story, they show a galaxy getting wiped away in a wash of destruction. I don't think that was one at a time.
Compliments of Bu.

In 1991, Superman survived the destruction of the Sun-eater, which eats suns. That means he survived a supernova, which will destroy Earth more than 833 times. He was koed for a day. All of this was before he fought Doomsday for the first time. His power levels have increased dramatically within the past 15 years.

Why the hell do these DBZ fanboys think I was talking about Pre-Crisis Superman?

I WASN'T!

It's proven fact that Superman is invulnerable as long as his energy stores aren't depleted and as long as the attack is not based on Kryptonite or Magic.

And Blue Nocturne - I know Superman was killed.

Guess how? He fought for hours and hours on end and his energy stores were drained....

Try reading what I say.

Until his energy stores are drained by either using his superpowers for hours on end, or simply being sucked away by magic or somesuch, he's INVULNERABLE.

That means that an 833 planet-destroying-blast will do nothing to him. 🙂

Now, rather than just spouting off random crap about 833 planets and Superman dying, actually read what I've put and see that I've countered it.

And again - I'm talking post-crisis Superman.

Pre-Crisis Superman would wreck all DBZ characters at the same time without being touched. 🙂

Originally posted by Femi32
In 1991, Superman survived the destruction of the Sun-eater, which eats suns. That means he survived a supernova, which will destroy Earth more than 833 times. He was koed for a day. All of this was before he fought Doomsday for the first time. His power levels have increased dramatically within the past 15 years.

"Scientists say that a star's lifetime is around 10 billion years old, and right now the Sun is about 5 billion years old, so it should be (you can do the statistical math). When the Sun goes supernova, be ready to say bye bye to mommy.
After 10 billion years is up the Sun will start to expand and swell up like a fat man at an all you can eat bar. As it increases in size, it will devour Mercury, Venus and com a little too close to home. As the temperature increases we will be toasted beings, actually dead ones. The crust of the sun would remain rather cool than normal, only about 3,000 kelvin. Its normal temperature is about 6,000 kelvin. Within a quick time the star's core collapses and then explodes, leaving a black hole, matter and some heat from the sun being blown out into space. The explosion can be seen from many galaxies away due to the bright light it emits. Strong gravitational pulling occurs as the black hole sucks everything into oblivion. Now on your merry little journey to oblivion, planets, comets and mass objects may collide creating catastrophes within a catastrophe."

If are sun went supernova the earth would barley be touched... so it can't destroy 833 planets it depends on the size of the star... 😆

Originally posted by ZephroCarnelian
Why the hell do these DBZ fanboys think I was talking about Pre-Crisis Superman?

I WASN'T!

It's proven fact that Superman is invulnerable as long as his energy stores aren't depleted and as long as the attack is not based on Kryptonite or Magic.

And Blue Nocturne - I know Superman was killed.

Guess how? He fought for hours and hours on end and his energy stores were drained....

Try reading what I say.

Until his energy stores are drained by either using his superpowers for hours on end, or simply being sucked away by magic or somesuch, he's INVULNERABLE.

That means that an 833 planet-destroying-blast will do nothing to him. 🙂

Now, rather than just spouting off random crap about 833 planets and Superman dying, actually read what I've put and see that I've countered it.

And again - I'm talking post-crisis Superman.

Pre-Crisis Superman would wreck all DBZ characters at the same time without being touched. 🙂

" Superman is not invulnerable at all, and this has been shown in the comic books in real continuity and alternate continuity many times before. For starters, on a sunny day, while battling Doomsday, Superman was bruised, cut and even stabbed, by Doomsday. This was without any exposure to Kryptonite. The second fact is when Supes took an Atomic Blast head on in Dark Knight Returns, and was left crippled and withering becasue the fallout blocked the sun and the radiation drained his powers. He almost died until Frank Miller was lame enough to say he could absorb solar energy from plants through some bizzare ass reverse photosynthesis (gotta love how DC heroes just make up new powers all the damn time). In a recent issue of Superman (the one where Lois Lane was shot) Supes had his ass kicked by a guy with a draining power. Supes was actually bleeding from the mouth while fighting this guy"

-Arach Knight

Invincible huh.

:: Sigh :: You guy's keep posting this garbage about superman being invulnerable yet he was killed by doomsday, You say it's because he ran out of power yet the sun is his power source and it wasn't night time when they fought so how does his energy run out, Please post a valid argument superman escaping a black hole doesn't count, to escape a black hole you must go faster then the speed of light which superman can do but it has nothing to do with super strength and invulnerability superman isn't invincible anymore, And for the record I'm not a DBZ fan boy I hate that show now ( Except for the movies and the original DB) My favorite super hero is superman but I'm not gonna delude my self and think he can be goku...Like said already show me an instant where superman has survived a force that can destroy 833 planets and we have an argument...

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Originally posted by Blue nocturne
And like I said we are not talking about pre crisis superman were talking about post crisis who cannot with stand anything thrown at him so until anyone shows me anything that has superman surviving a force that can wipe out 833 planets goku wins, seriously if we were talking about the golden age supes you think I would be debating like this?!

E-fuking-xactly

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
:: Sigh :: You guy's keep posting this garbage about superman being invulnerable yet he was killed by doomsday, You say it's because he ran out of power yet the sun is his power source and it wasn't night time when they fought so how does his energy run out, Please post a valid argument superman escaping a black hole doesn't count, to escape a black hole you must go faster then the speed of light which superman can do but it has nothing to do with super strength and invulnerability superman isn't invincible anymore, And for the record I'm not a DBZ fan boy I hate that show now ( Except for the movies and the original DB) My favorite super hero is superman but I'm not gonna delude my self and think he can be goku...Like said already show me an instant where superman has survived a force that can destroy 833 planets and we have an argument...

The sun is his source of power, he doesnt need to be in the sun to have his power. He builds up power over weeks, months, years. He went away in deep space FAR away from any yellow sun an retained his powers for a VERY long time. I think he was gone for years even, can barely remember, but by then he lost a lot of his powers. But again even THEN he still has some of them, YEARS later without exposure to a yellow sun.

but without it he will just get weaker over time.

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
but without it he will just get weaker over time.

That whould take weeks for that even happens though.

Originally posted by dvampire
That whould take weeks for that even happens though.

"Superman's powers are not permanent and require frequent exposure to sunlight to keep them operating at optimum levels. When removed from his energy source Superman will slowly loose his abilities as he uses up his stores of solar energy. The more active he is the quicker he will loose his powers"

Weeks huh.

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
"Superman's powers are not permanent and require frequent exposure to sunlight to keep them operating at optimum levels. When removed from his energy source Superman will slowly loose his abilities as he uses up his stores of solar energy. The more active he is the quicker he will loose his powers"

Weeks huh.

Now a days, yes it would take weeks. Unless he's fighting a savage battle that he needs to use his energy to survive.

Originally posted by Darth Macabre
Now a days, yes it would take weeks. Unless he's fighting a savage battle that he needs to use his energy to survive.

Like fighting goku, superman needs the sun more then anything what's stopping goku from blowing it up vanish faraway and come back afterwards kill supes and winning goku can travel to different dimensions since he goes to heaven constantly with his instant transmission...I don't see superman winning this fight.