Originally posted by namorsubby
In order to determine how two characters compare, you must read up on BOTH characters. That means cap AND bruce. This is undoubtedly where the problem lies with a few of you here.
Yea...you haven't read up on Cap, otherwise you'd know that he has better physical stats and comparable skill.
Originally posted by red sabre
no they are not, that was proved by me and other posters already, batman poping his shoulder from weight lifting and barrely able to push a wooden totem pole off his leg vs lifting trees, tearing off and supporting a statue 2.5 times the size of cap and 3 times wider, supporting a whole building structure, holding a telephone pole on his shoulder, one shotting buildings atc atc atcskills? lets see captain america dominates street levelers all the time and beats top MA guys which makes him the top of the food chain in marvel, batman getting beat up by fighters at lady shiva caliber and vergin raped by slade, the problem is people like you who look at the pictures and say wow batman did a cool kick and he is stated to be a ninja he cool, captain america deliver some averege punch and kick he is no cool, get real
2. I showed him benching well over a thousand lbs, holding up huge sarcophagi, holding up parts of a collapsed building(just like cap), wrestling down two cape buffalo, breaking bars, guns, and other metal objects, etc, etc.
His feats are more than comparable, and you can't discount that. So instead you fabricate estimated numbers to conjure an illusion of physical superiority. The fact that you have the gull to claim that those numbers are any where near accurate based on zero real evidence is a testimony to the futility of attempting to logically debate with fanatical posters.
That one thing bruce lifted that one time was a gazillion lbs. I know from looking at it and determining all the specifics of it's composition and them comparing them with real life objects of approximate size, density, and identical material. Yes, I'm that smart.
It certainly shows lack of actual comic knowledge to proclaim cap is visibly physically superior to bruce as displayed in an average appearance. Batman's feats are simply the most impressive of any peak human street leveler in comics. Cap has obvious super human level feats. Bruce has just as many if not more.
Originally posted by namorsubby
1. Totem poles weigh tons. That one happened to be very large.2. I showed him benching well over a thousand lbs, holding up huge sarcophagi, holding up parts of a collapsed building(just like cap), wrestling down two cape buffalo, breaking bars, guns, and other metal objects, etc, etc.
His feats are more than comparable, and you can't discount that. So instead you fabricate estimated numbers to conjure an illusion of physical superiority. The fact that you have the gull to claim that those numbers are any where near accurate based on zero real evidence is a testimony to the futility of attempting to logically debate with fanatical posters.
That one thing bruce lifted that one time was a gazillion lbs. I know from looking at it and determining all the specifics of it's composition and them comparing them with real life objects of approximate size, density, and identical material. Yes, I'm that smart.
totem poles weight different weights, however the ones who weight tons are the ones made out of stone and not wood, it was a wooden based on the fact it didnt break when it fell and the fact it got on fire which means it was a wooden one, and batman not only couldnt lift it physically but he also strugled for several panels to just push it off his leg thats pathetic
it wasnt way over 1000 lbs based on the fact we see the number of plates and we see the other ones are smaller, 1000 lbs is half a ton thats a laughable feat compared to the feats i presented for cap
batman wasnt holding part of a building it was only 1 layer and some portion of a ceiling, let it be reminded that in other time batman failed to lift a ceiling and save a women he got enraged about it and was trying to lift the same weight of the ceiling with weights and he still couldnt he poped out his shoulder which is again laughable
the sarcofag thing was adressed those things weight at best a ton they are hollow inside and look heavier than they really are, it could be a wooden one as well which weight a laughable weight
wrestling down a buffalo? and what the hell is that suppose to tell us? people wrestle bulls left and right its not a super human or peak human feat, go to youtube you got some kid lift up a donkey and throw it thats more impressive than batman
breaking bars? ROFL any street does that shit
his feats are plane and simple JOKE compared to cap like it or not i dont care,i gave evidence to my feats and the numbers i gave, they are based on logic reason and physics, if you got a problem comprehending those things sue me.
Originally posted by namorsubby
It certainly shows lack of actual comic knowledge to proclaim cap is visibly physically superior to bruce as displayed in an average appearance. Batman's feats are simply the most impressive of any peak human street leveler in comics. Cap has obvious super human level feats. Bruce has just as many if not more.
Actually, Cap has the better feats, you'd know this if you actually read Cap stories or at least didn't ignore the posted feats.
Originally posted by Silent MasterInvaders fan. Read cap, namor, and hammond since a small child. I've read virtually all namors and hammonds appearance and a majority of cap.
Actually, Cap has the better feats, you'd know this if you actually read Cap stories or at least didn't ignore the posted feats.
The only thing I ignore about those feats are the fabricated numbers posters try to tag onto them, which really have nothing to do with the feats
themselves. Bruces feats are easily comparable to any character near peak human or low meta.
Originally posted by red sabre
totem poles weight different weights, however the ones who weight tons are the ones made out of stone and not wood, it was a wooden based on the fact it didnt break when it fell and the fact it got on fire which means it was a wooden one, and batman not only couldnt lift it physically but he also strugled for several panels to just push it off his leg thats patheticit wasnt way over 1000 lbs based on the fact we see the number of plates and we see the other ones are smaller, 1000 lbs is half a ton thats a laughable feat compared to the feats i presented for cap
batman wasnt holding part of a building it was only 1 layer and some portion of a ceiling, let it be reminded that in other time batman failed to lift a ceiling and save a women he got enraged about it and was trying to lift the same weight of the ceiling with weights and he still couldnt he poped out his shoulder which is again laughable
the sarcofag thing was adressed those things weight at best a ton they are hollow inside and look heavier than they really are, it could be a wooden one as well which weight a laughable weight
wrestling down a buffalo? and what the hell is that suppose to tell us? people wrestle bulls left and right its not a super human or peak human feat, go to youtube you got some kid lift up a donkey and throw it thats more impressive than batman
breaking bars? ROFL any street does that shit
his feats are plane and simple JOKE compared to cap like it or not i dont care,i gave evidence to my feats and the numbers i gave, they are based on logic reason and physics, if you got a problem comprehending those things sue me.
The only thing laughable is how you vigorously undermine feats presented to you and do the opposite for cap with bogus numbers. Any one who is not an idiot knows batman had by far the most impressive overall resume of any peak human and many low metas.
And wooden totem poles weigh tons as well. Don't conment on the subject as if you are even aware of what youre talking about.
Originally posted by Silent MasterI ignored bogus estimations. I acknowledge the feats which i've been aware of long before these posters posted them. Amping with imaginary numbers that can't be proven doesnt fly with me.
You're acting like I haven't been reading this thread and watched you ignore Cap's feats while posting inferior Batman feats and acting like you've made a point.
Batmans feat collection is easily comparable. He ironically had many visually and situationally similar feats.
Originally posted by namorsubby
The only thing laughable is how you vigorously undermine feats presented to you and do the opposite for cap with bogus numbers. Any one who is not an idiot knows batman had by far the most impressive overall resume of any peak human and many low metas.And wooden totem poles weigh tons as well. Don't conment on the subject as if you are even aware of what youre talking about.
so basically this is how the things work, you present inferior feats for batman, then when people call you out on that you pretend like nothing happened and keep repeating yourself saying his feats are just as good as the cap feats and you even dare to say he has a top notch feats for a peak human or low meta, that thing is trolling at its best.
wooden totem poles dont weight as much , can you prove this totem pole wasnt hollow? and of course the fact he couldnt lift it or even move it, he strugle for several panels just to push it off his leg and somehow you call it a good feat for him.
basically by now you already know you failed and you know you are wrong but you just keep trolling for your own amusement.
Originally posted by Silent MasterI didn't estimate anything. the only number I gave was the average weight of sarcophagi as stated on several sites. These idiots act as if im gonna buy that they can determine rough estimates of weight based on looking at comic book images, coming up with all the dimesions of an object, as well as the probable material, and comparing them to real life objects with similar dimensions. You've got to be kidding me.
You have no room to talk about "bogus estimations" as your numbers have been corrected by multiple people.
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I dare to say? Lol the primary compliant around here and other message boards concerning batman is that nearly everything he does is pis because his feats are ridiculously impressive for a character of his power level. The funny thing is caps pis is usually praised and accepted.
You compared batman wrestling down cape buffalos to a kid and a donkey. Youre obviously a retard. Idk why I waste time with someone who thinks cap is class 5-10. somwone who claims cap dragged 30,000lbs across the desert.
Originally posted by namorsubby
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I dare to say? Lol the primary compliant around here and other message boards concerning batman is that nearly everything he does is pis because his feats are ridiculously impressive for a character of his power level. The funny thing is caps pis is usually praised and accepted.You compared batman wrestling down cape buffalos to a kid and a donkey. Youre obviously a retard. Idk why I waste time with someone who thinks cap is class 5-10. somwone who claims cap dragged 30,000lbs across the desert.
batman has way too many feats of him failing at many below super human things to consider him super human, actually he doesnt really have super human feats as far as strength goes, maybe couple ones but they dont stack up to cap not in a mile, each feat that you gave for batman i adressed and showed you why it suck, he couldnt lift a ceiling and failed to save someone, he later was enraged and was trying to lift same weight which was stated by lbs and not tons and again failed and poped his shoulder, he couldnt lift the wooden totem pole he barrely was able to just push it off his leg, and you call that supe rhuman feats? get lost
wrestling down a buffalo is super human? peak human? did he lift the buffalo? we got real life people wrestling down bulls easily by twisting their neck to the side making the animal give up because its getting scared of getting its neck broken, actually the guy throwing the donkey is much better feat than batman because he lift the entire weight of the donkey above his head and threw him unlike batman who once again didnt do crap.
i presented feats for cap that not only supress batman but actually make fun of him and all the people in here easily agreed on that because it is what it is, of course only a biased fanboy like yourself would ignore such straight up facts.
the feats speak for themselves and by feats cap is a multi toner like it or not i dont give a crap actually cry me a river, as for the truck i gave the reasoning as to why its a 15 ton feat and i didnt even include the supply that was inside the trutck, i didnt include he had to fight extra weight because the wheels sank into the sand and therefor he had to drag the extra resistance = weight the sand created for that truck, you see the difference between the cap side and you is the fact you just ignore feats and troll, please continue to make a fool out of yourself its a good intertainment
Originally posted by red sabre
the feats speak for themselves and by feats cap is a multi toner like it or not i dont give a crap actually cry me a river, as for the truck i gave the reasoning as to why its a 15 ton feat and i didnt even include the supply that was inside the trutck, i didnt include he had to fight extra weight because the wheels sank into the sand and therefor he had to drag the extra resistance = weight the sand created for that truck, you see the difference between the cap side and you is the fact you just ignore feats and troll, please continue to make a fool out of yourself its a good intertainment
That feat is insane. Oh yeah you forgot the heat of the desert.
Steve Rogers Stamina is way beyond that of any peak human .
Steve Rogers also has a very low level healing factor.
Rogers is a legit 1-2 tonner.
Rogers >> Batman in regards to physical attributes end of discussion.
Batman's ALLEGED minor superiority in skill (very debatable) is not enough to offset Rogers own skill and superior psysical attributes in the long run.
The longer the fight lasts the worse it gets for Batman.
Batman has to win fast or he does not win at all.