Captain America vs Batman(no shield-no gadgets)

Started by h1a8220 pages

Originally posted by pym-ftw
PP don't work through armor...
😐
In comics they do. They even work on superhuman characters like Thor. But Cap's neck, arms, etc. don't have armor.

Cap wears pads with Duralumin scales over it, he also has plates built in that cover his neck and fore head.

This is the current Captain America armor as of Marvel now

Originally posted by ODG
Cap basically carved out a piece of his own chest to expel Zola. And this was after he had the living crap kicked out of him by Zola's gamma-irradiated SSS mutant hordes, Jet (Zola's daughter) and Zola himself:

I still don't understand how he didn't just outright die from this:

Cap's healing is underrated. He has healed a bullet to the head in 12 minutes and has healed burned wounds in seconds. His immune system has purged out poisons in seconds, alcohol poisoning doesn't even effect him and SSS even blocked a alien virus that effected almost everyone accept himself.

Supposedly because the immortal Lazarus serum from WW2 he is immortal.

Cap is not immortal. Healing showings of that magnitude for him are an absurdly extreme rarity.

For some reason he has the a few extreme showings in other areas as well. Writers clearly have different interpretations of just how much the sss has augmented his physical stats.

Originally posted by namorsubby
Cap is not immortal. Healing showings of that magnitude for him are an absurdly extreme rarity.

Poor subby you scared.

Face it. The only thing that Steve and Batman have in common are there obsession with training, discipline, and skill.

Steve in regards to him in athletic ability, healing, mind boosted, is "superior" to him.

And he would knock out Slade. 🙂 Yeah I said it.

Originally posted by Daredevil1
Poor subby you scared.
yes, because that makes sense somehow.

For some reason he has the a few extreme showings in other areas as well. Writers clearly have different interpretations of just how much the sss has augmented his physical stats.

Originally posted by namorsubby
yes, because that makes sense somehow.

For some reason he has the a few extreme showings in other areas as well. [b]Writers clearly have different interpretations of just how much the sss has augmented his physical stats. [/B]

Many enhanced characters have this problem..Slade....Wolverine.....Midnighter.

At least with Cap and Batman we normally know where it stands. Not my fault you believe Batman=Cap in the physical department.

cap is def the physical better man here hes stronger faster bigger but i think its the age old argument would bruce lee be able to be some giant ufc fighter today? i think bats is more skilled in martial arts and would be a better h2h combatant and i believe bruce would have beat just about anyone fighting today the same way i believe the smaller weaker person wins the fihgt here bats for 7/10

According to routine feats, theres not a big gap between them physically, if at all. Unless youre one of those posters who wish only to take into account caps highest end physical feats, which dont at all represent the norm. Some of these guys have cap running 60 miles an hour and enduring crap like that injury above and it just doesn't line up with how he's been potrayed in the majority of his comic history. Like I said, their interpretations of how much the sss enhanced him are just over the top.

Originally posted by namorsubby
According to routine feats, theres not a big gap between them physically, if at all. Unless youre one of those posters who wish only to take into account caps highest end physical feats, which dont at all represent the norm. Some of these guys have cap running 60 miles an hour and enduring crap like that injury above and it just doesn't line up with how he's posted potrayed in the majority of his comic history. Like I said, their interpretations of how much the sss enhanced him are just over the top.

According to his average there much better then Batman. Unless you are one of the posters that ignores that and takes into account Bat high or pretends that his consistent is equal to Steve which is not. Cap running 60 miles an hour and enduring....dude has endured in Ice fore decades. His SSS is what makes him better then Batman, not make them equals as you say.

Your interpretation of Batman=Cap is just over the top. Athletically Cap is his better irregardless of what your false interpretation is.

So Batmans > human feats count, but Cap who is above human by character should only allowed Batman level feats....

😖hifty:

Originally posted by Daredevil1
According to his average there much better then Batman. Unless you are one of the posters that ignores that and takes into account Bat high or pretends that his consistent is equal to Steve which is not. Cap running 60 miles an hour and enduring....dude has endured in Ice fore decades. His SSS is what makes him better then Batman, not make them equals as you say.

Your interpretation of Batman=Cap is just over the top. Athletically Cap is his better irregardless of what your false interpretation is.

lol, you act as if bruce doesn't do something "superhuman" every issue. Its not "high end" when its routine. Those instances I referenced from cap are anything but.....get over it. Feats matter, not statements or classifications.

Oh, and its comical that youre trying to use the fact that the serum kept him in a inert state in ice as a superhuman feat for him.

Originally posted by pym-ftw
So Batmans > human feats count, but Cap who is above human by character should only allowed Batman level feats....

😖hifty:

Posters here tend to intentionally misinterpret statements to antagonize more then they actually debate. Example above.

Anyone who knows cap knows those instances referenced are extremely high showings. In fact, theyre straight up oddities out of left field in comparison to his norm. So dont try to skew my words into new, exaggerated meanings to benefit your stance. Please and thank you.

Again

Bruce who is peak human doing supernatural things like ripping trees out of the ground and breaking thick iron chains is ok, but cap who by very virtue of the character is above peak in every single way is scrutinized for having feats above street level guys

Cap is closer to Spiderman than Batman physically, this is a fact!

Lol not even remotely true.

First, answer these 2 questions: Is cap closer in strengh to bruce or spiderman? Does cap have specific powers like spidey and other metas or is he without a distinct set of superhuman powers like bruce?

Now, say that again and realize how ridiculous it is.

He has a SSS, so yes he has super powers, the fact your arguing about this is insane to me

He has artificially enhanced physical stats. So do body builders who take steroids.

Batman display inhuman strength and speed routinely, but technically lacks superhuman ability due to his classification as human. Its irrelevant though because feats are what matter.

Btw, I was speaking of distinct meta human powers. Superman has heat vision. Slade is immortal. Spidey has spider sense and sticks to walls. Etc etc

The fact that you consider things like Cap running at 60mph a high end feat, just proves that you have zero knowledge of Cap.

Lol stupidest thing you could ever type.

Cap was never displayed as being a superspeedster, so yeah. Lmao wtf.

Originally posted by namorsubby
Lol stupidest thing you could ever type.

Cap was never displayed as being a superspeedster, so yeah. Lmao wtf.

You just proved your ignorance of Cap, seeing as he has feats that are far higher than the 60mph one.