Originally posted by srankmissingninYeah, Wolverine was about to kill Clor by getting his face smashed in. Delusion skank, delusion
Out on his feat? He was sticking to Clor like glue. If Wolverine was anywhere close to being "out on his feat" he would have fallen out of the sky like a brick, because, you know, he can't fly. Instead he got knocked away because Luke Cage is almost as terrible as Iron Fist.Iron Fist finished off Wolverine's scraps. That's what is known as a kill still. Nothing more. 😎
Wolverine is more of a god than Thor is. A Thor clone seemingly appearing to overwhelm him is because Wolverine has to be jobbed to characters without a healing factor, as he'd one-shot kill almost any character under high trans level were his strikes to fully connect.
Just accept this fact and get over it, Logan-haters.
Originally posted by Silent MasterIf Being stated = truth then DOS DD is faster than flash and Sentry stalemated Galactus. I can accept that if you can. Cap never was portrayed faster than any top MA he has fought in comics.
Most street level people have those feats, several of them on a higher level than Batman and Cap has been stated as being faster than them.Incorrect.
Sorry guys but we go by comics.
Cap is not faster than Batman. If anything Batman is faster than Cap by a little.
I'm referring to combat speed and not running speed.
Cap is only a little stronger than Batman 1.5-2x to be accurate.
Due to armor, both have similar durabilities.
The only advantage Cap has is strength. Nothing more.
Batman has the skill and speed.
I say it can go either way but with Cap having a slight edge.
Originally posted by h1a8
Sorry guys but we go by comics.
Cap is not faster than Batman. If anything Batman is faster than Cap by a little.
I'm referring to combat speed and not running speed.Cap is only a little stronger than Batman 1.5-2x to be accurate.
Due to armor, both have similar durabilities.
The only advantage Cap has is strength. Nothing more.
Batman has the skill and speed.
I say it can go either way but with Cap having a slight edge.
Would you please stop talking out of your ass.
Cap is 2-4 times stronger than Batman. Cap's combat speed and running speeds are both noticeably above Batman's, but not to the same degree as he's strength. Batman's armor is shit for durability. It isn't knife proof and it's not always bullet proof even. Pretending like their durability is a wash because of armor is laughable. Cap could rip Batman's armor apart... then what? Not to mention, one of them has an indestructible shield.
Also, Cap is more skilled than Batman. He has better pressure point feats, he has better wins over top MAs and half the street levelers don't go around talking about how they are all better than he is (which they do in DC in regards to Batman). In Marvel Cap is the top of the MA heat, Batman is lucky to break top 5 in DC (spoiler: he wont be in the top five on the list of anyone who knows anything about martial artists in DC comics)
I REALLY hope the people in your life who don't read comics never ask you questions when superhero movies come out, because you are spreading the most uninformed nonsense I've ever read.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Would you please stop talking out of your ass.Cap is 2-4 times stronger than Batman. Cap's combat speed and running speeds are both noticeably above Batman's, but not to the same degree as he's strength. Batman's armor is shit for durability. It isn't knife proof and it's not always bullet proof even. Pretending like their durability is a wash because of armor is laughable. Cap could rip Batman's armor apart... then what? Not to mention, one of them has an indestructible shield.
Also, Cap is more skilled than Batman. He has better pressure point feats, he has better wins over top MAs and half the street levelers don't go around talking about how they are all better than he is (which they do in DC in regards to Batman). In Marvel Cap is the top of the MA heat, Batman is lucky to break top 5 in DC (spoiler: he wont be in the top five on the list of anyone who knows anything about martial artists in DC comics)
I REALLY hope the people in your life who don't read comics never ask you questions when superhero movies come out, because you are spreading the most uninformed nonsense I've ever read.
I disagree, Cap is 1.5-2x stronger than Bats. Both are superhuman by real life standards.
running speed is irrelevant here.
Combat speed Batman is faster, not the other way around.
Batman's armor has good showings, why use low ones. I'm pretty sure Cap's armor has been pierced by bullets and stuff too. There are no knives in this fight though. You are lowballing now.
Batman is more skilled than Cap. Batman has the better pressure point showings. Batman can apply pressure points much better than Cap can. Batman can one shot ko with his pressure points, Cap can't.
Marvel=/=D.C.
Thus making direct comparisons fail. We must go by feats.
Originally posted by h1a8
I disagree, Cap is 1.5-2x stronger than Bats. Both are superhuman by real life standards.
running speed is irrelevant here.
Combat speed Batman is faster, not the other way around.
Batman's armor has good showings, why use low ones. I'm pretty sure Cap's armor has been pierced by bullets and stuff too. There are no knives in this fight though. You are lowballing now.Batman is more skilled than Cap. Batman has the better pressure point showings. Batman can apply pressure points much better than Cap can. Batman can one shot ko with his pressure points, Cap can't.
Marvel=/=D.C.
Thus making direct comparisons fail. We must go by feats.
You can disagree all you want. Cap is a documented 2 tonner. Batman is a documented 800-1000lbs-er. There is a big difference between Cap's "superhuman by real life standards," and Batman's "superhuman by real life standards."
The rest is a bunch of nonsense... would you please go look at the their best feats and educate your self?