Captain America vs Batman(no shield-no gadgets)

Started by abhilegend220 pages

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Because Shiva sucks...

Deadpool is closer to Wolverine/Spiderman than street and I just assume you hate TaskMaster.


Deadpool sucks donkey balls in MA. He still beat Taskmaster just because he started fighting in a random style which Tasky has never seen.

Because of his HF. In MA, he's been beaten by nearly everyone worth his salt. Taskmaster is one of the biggest jobber there is.

deadpool sucks donkey balls? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOOLOLOLOLOLOLOOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

So he sucks because he didn't use a ma that's easily distinguishable...

And I'm the biased one? 😬

It's not that Deadpool used a style Taskmaster had never seen before, it was because his movements made no sense...it's basically the same reason Batgirl had trouble reading the Joker.

Originally posted by Silent Master
It's not that Deadpool used a style Taskmaster had never seen before, it was because his movements made no sense...it's basically the same reason Batgirl had trouble reading the Joker.
because the both of them are loco

Originally posted by iscaremonkeys
that explanation must be bad writing or PIS because that made no sense at all

Bad writing you say? No worse than a explicitly stated human level character like Batman performing superhuman feats.

Originally posted by iscaremonkeys
but when the hell could he do that?' when did he do that I need scans of that!

1 read more batman. He can react to muscle movement. 2 does cap know how to fully use his surroundings? 3 batman daredevil deadpool deathstroke all could beat taskmaster so that fight proves nothing. Oh so cap has power= he wins? really good comeback.

I don't need a comeback because I am not so immature that I don't know the difference between a game of wits and a debate. And Cap wins because he is superior to Batman in every conceivable way in combat. In case you didn't know, the SS also enhances the mind for combat. Cap is just better.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Prometheus surprised Batman in the first fight. In the second fight Batman was beating the shit out of him untill Prometheus used his blasts.

Batman stalemating two versions of Karate Kid shits on anything Cap has done skillwise. Cap is physically superior but Batman is CLEARLY his superior in skill. Taskmaster is a jobber who gets beaten by people like Deadpool and even then he was going toe to toe with Cap and Bucky together in Siege.

Um, Cap would have taken the blast and still beat the living crap out of wack ass Promethus. And where are you getting that Batman is anywhere near Cap in terms of skill when Batman admitted he couldn't beat Cap based on a few hand motions? You can't have it both ways. As far at the KK crap, you know damn well that's CIS.

By the way, do you even realize you are posting a low combat showing for Batman? Batman got beaten by falling victim to the oldest trick in the book, playing possum. And to think someone here is saying Batman would win in part because he is so much smarter than Cap in combat. Thanks.

Originally posted by iscaremonkeys
the point of batman having a mental, environmental, h2h, advantage. Your point is cap having strength of enemies batman beats on a regular. you've proved nothing but your pure biased opinion

But Cap's skill >>>>>> the idiots Batman fights. Unless Killer Croc is your idea of a superior fighter.

He has no environmental advantage, that's some crap you just made up on the spot. Cap has no equal in terms of using the environment. Do you know anything about Cap besides what he looks like?

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Because Shiva sucks...

Deadpool is closer to Wolverine/Spiderman than street and I just assume you hate TaskMaster.

Exactly. I love how some people are giving DC streets the Superman treatment!

Originally posted by Golgo13
Or Prometehues is just that good.

Except he isn't. Cap would kick his ass every time without any excuses.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
He has no environmental advantage, that's some crap you just made up on the spot. Cap has no equal in terms of using the environment. Do you know anything about Cap besides what he looks like?

Exactly. I love how some people are giving DC streets the Superman treatment!

Except he isn't. Cap would kick his ass every time without any excuses.

LOL! Yeah, right. Last Prometheus was tagging speedsters like Jay Garrick and had solutions to all metas on earth.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Um, Cap would have taken the blast and still beat the living crap out of wack ass Promethus. And where are you getting that Batman is anywhere near Cap in terms of skill when Batman admitted he couldn't beat Cap based on a few hand motions? You can't have it both ways. As far at the KK crap, you know damn well that's CIS.

By the way, do you even realize you are posting a low combat showing for Batman? Batman got beaten by falling victim to the oldest trick in the book, playing possum. And to think someone here is saying Batman would win in part because he is so much smarter than Cap in combat. Thanks.


Yeah, because the same blasts were picking apart beings like Red Tornado and shit. Cap would've been as much damaged or more than Batman since his suit is more durable than Cap's chain mail armor.

Also JLA/Avengers isn't usable here.

Prometheus was getting beaten, he wasn't playing possum there. I gave Cap 7/10 here.

Originally posted by pym-ftw
So he sucks because he didn't use a ma that's easily distinguishable...

And I'm the biased one? 😬


Nah, he sucks because he's been beaten by nearly every MA there is.

Of course you're heavily marvel biased. Who are you fooling here?

This is one of the times.

http://s1143.photobucket.com/user/carver9/media/snapshot2_zps3d9f9a82.jpg.html
http://s1143.photobucket.com/user/carver9/media/snapshot_zpscb445be4.jpg.html?sort=3&o=0

Originally posted by Golgo13
LOL! Yeah, right. Last Prometheus was tagging speedsters like Jay Garrick and had solutions to all metas on earth.

Which is all negated by him struggling with Batman!! Don't you see how ridiculous these sort of arguments are? So what are you suggesting, that Batman would destroy all speedsters?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yeah, because the same blasts were picking apart beings like Red Tornado and shit. Cap would've been as much damaged or more than Batman since his suit is more durable than Cap's chain mail armor.

Also JLA/Avengers isn't usable here.

Prometheus was getting beaten, he wasn't playing possum there. I gave Cap 7/10 here.
Nah, he sucks because he's been beaten by nearly every MA there is.

Of course you're heavily marvel biased. Who are you fooling here?

What do you mean he wasn't playing possum? You would have to be blind and illiterate to argue that he wasn't playing possum in that panel. You are trying to find a way out since I pointed out how Batman didn't come across as this all knowing super human fighting god you all make him out to be. OF COURSE he was playing possum, all you have to do is look at the pics and read the text. What does Prometheus say to Batman?

Also, where are you getting that Batman is more heavily armored than Cap? Caps glove protected him protected him from a bite by a class 90 Ulik causing Thor to comment on how good his armor was. Stop trying to give Batman edgs.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Which is all negated by him struggling with Batman!! Don't you see how ridiculous these sort of arguments are? So what are you suggesting, that Batman would destroy all speedsters?

Batman has tagged every flash from Barry Allen, Wally West to outright stop a blitzing Bart. He's just that good.
Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
What do you mean he wasn't playing possum? You would have to be blind and illiterate to argue that he wasn't playing possum in that panel. You are trying to find a way out since I pointed out how Batman didn't come across as this all knowing super human fighting god you all make him out to be. OF COURSE he was playing possum, all you have to do is look at the pics and read the text. What does Prometheus say to Batman?

Also, where are you getting that Batman is more heavily armored than Cap? Caps glove protected him protected him from a bite by a class 90 Ulik causing Thor to comment on how good his armor was. Stop trying to give Batman edgs.


And you would be blind to see something which is not there at all. Prometheus wasn't playing possum there at all. He got his shit pushed in h2h. Point out where he said so or shut up.

Batman survived an enraged superman punching him straight in the gut with only one rib cracked and has taken punches from guys like Etrigan, Wonder Woman and like with regularity. Batman's armor is better than Cap's armor and that's not even disputable.

If Batman's armor is good enough to stand up to an enraged Superman, how do you explain the dozens if not hundreds of examples of him being hurt/injured by under cl 100 force?

The same way Cap gets injured in his hundreds of appearances despite taking a bite from class 90 ulik.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Clean out those big white ears and listen for once. IT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE MANY TIMES OVER. What good would it do for me to AGAIN give you examples for you to AGAIN simple discount them and ask for more? I'm not an idiot so I am not going down that road to nowhere with you.

But the real crazy part is that it never had to be proven in the first place because it's COMMON KNOWLEDGE. There isn't a non-comic book reading person on earth who saw both the Dark Knight movies and the Captain America movie who would say they are anywhere near the same class.

Cap is super human, Batman is not. If you don't know that by now, you will NEVER know it, meaning you refuse to accept it. You are finally trying to save face a little by acting like you are of the opinion that Cap wins 7 or 8 out of ten, yet you are still arguing that Bat is Cap's equal when he is far from that. You just can't let go. Stop being a fan and allow common sense AND common knowledge to prevail. If not, then you will continue this charade.

😂

just so's everyone in the forum can see this. again, you were challenged, again, no scans to back up this 'supposed' superiority. you don't wanna post because i'll 'discount' them. L. O. L. like i was supposed to be impressed by bp carrying some random guy? i wasn't the only one to make fun of that 'vastly superior feat'. hilarious. your insistence on using 'common sense' is a LAUGHABLE cry given that we're talking about, you know, COMIC BOOKS. not exactly icons of common sense. your refusal to remove batman from your little 'peak human box' is both funny, and sad. the cries of pis and the need to discredit anything he does that does NOT fit in your little box really is priceless. it's like batman threatens you personally or something. you say stop being a fan. i say stop being a blind hater, you say use common sense, i say look at what's on panel and stop hiding behind pis as those superhuman feats have been repeated over and over. but keep clinging to the notion that bats is simply a rl peak human, who shouldn't be able to do 80% of the things he's done 100% of the time through his career. i know it lets you sleep better at night. 👆

to reiterate though--you came in riding someone else's coattails (as cowards do in the forum) and claim cap is superior--vastly--while saying i can't accept it, and despite it being shown 'over and over again' you can't prove it. at all. at least the entire forum can see that you've blatantly run away. again. can't blame you though. your stance is a hater stance, and those stances rarely work out. back to ignore bunky. 🙂

Originally posted by carver9
This is one of the times.

http://s1143.photobucket.com/user/carver9/media/snapshot2_zps3d9f9a82.jpg.html
http://s1143.photobucket.com/user/carver9/media/snapshot_zpscb445be4.jpg.html?sort=3&o=0

now carver, we both know these are....questionably admissible at best, but, even so, based on that, how anyone can conclude that this would be a "stomp" is.....inconceivable to me. if anything, that scan supports that the fight would be anything BUT a stomp.

and make no mistake--THAT is my issue with this whole discussion, cap wins a vast majority, but each is close and bats could take a couple. to suggest otherwise implies that cap is utterly beyond being feinted, that his defense would be perfect every time, etc.... against bats? who SPECIALIZES in learning from his foe, in finding weaknesses? it doesn't make sense to me that anyone can say this is a stomp. alas, some will never be convinced.

Leo...

I agree, just pointing out one of the scenes where Batman admits Cap is superior. There is another time as well.