Captain America vs Batman(no shield-no gadgets)

Originally posted by Phantom Ghost
Let me correct you.

Prometheus had the combined martial arts skills of 30 of DC's greatest martial artist including Batman's own skills. In addition, he was prepared for the sole purpose to defeat the JLA especially Batman using advanced technology. In their 2nd fight, Batman dominated Prometheus using just raw skill despite Prometheus using his tech and weaponry.

Also, it should be mentioned that Captain America actually was on the losing end against Taskmaster the first time they fought despite having Iron Man's help. Looking at their first battle, Taskmaster not only got the upper hand on Steve but also Tony at the same time plus Taskmaster still managed to escape capture from the Avengers on top of that. That's actually worse than Batman's loss against Prometheus since it happened off panel and Batman didn't have powerful backup like Steve did.

Batman KOed Deathstroke in their last (real) battle with his own rifle after getting the upper hand on him. Matter of fact, just solo Batman is the only street level fighter to that's managed to KO Slade in a melee battle to my knowledge. Whereas, Daredevil has KOed Steve by tossing him against the wall while fighting in darkness.

Now with that said, HTH Steve wins this 6/10 times due to being physical superior and being just a step or two below Bruce in skill. But it takes a long time to decide a winner each and every time IMO. Just my 2 cents peace 😎

Have you really just used Steve getting beat by Matt in total darkness?
Thats like the biggest greatest advantage for matt in any fight? Poor counter argument friend

Well considering the fact that Steve has enhanced senses (at least from my understanding) himself and was fully aware that DD was right in front of him, has enhanced stamina, in addition to the Avengers being present at the time I wouldn't say so.

Originally posted by Phantom Ghost
Well considering the fact that Steve has enhanced senses (at least from my understanding) himself and was fully aware that DD was right in front of him, has enhanced stamina, in addition to the Avengers being present at the time I wouldn't say so.

Originally posted by LeonBuco666
Have you really just used Steve getting beat by Matt in total darkness?
Thats like the biggest greatest advantage for matt in any fight? Poor counter argument friend

You're right.

But I still would have bet money Cap would beat Matt even in total darkness. I've underestimated Marvel. 🙂

Originally posted by cdtm
You're right.

But I still would have bet money Cap would beat Matt even in total darkness. I've underestimated Marvel. 🙂

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
One of the more recent developments that I like is that Captain America officially has retarded aging like it's been hinted at for a while:

You should catch up on the new series Leo. Its pretty good and Captain America's endurance in it is legit ridiculous. Everything else could be equal but Steve would win based on stamina alone imho.

Also, lol at the Rex Tyler and Jay Garrick tombstones in the last panel of the first scan. Neat nod.

lol that last panel is pretty sneaky. i haven't read the marvel now cap, but yeah, i'll check it out. sounds like they're trying to add some interesting stuff. not sure about the silo doors, but i'll see if i can find something close. is that the same arc where cap throws his shield and destroys the missile? THAT has always been near the top of cap's superhuman feats imo.... that is one feat i WOULDN'T be able to match, though i've heard people write it off as pis. i don't think so, but it IS a high end one for certain and one bats couldn't pull off, even if he were given the shield.

^ The last panel is a moment of silence for Sharon Carter's fiery death. Which we see on-panel. Death is never final in comics, but she's pretty dead for now.

cap will definitely take this one.batman wont stand a chance against caps strength and intelligence

Originally posted by Ernestbone
cap will definitely take this one.batman wont stand a chance against caps strength and intelligence

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Maybe, probably, but I just thought it's noteworthy.

Hmm I'll try and find scans as it was in response to Batman beating down Aquaman.

How strong are the bay doors on a Nuclear silo? Captain America forces them closed by hand at one point:
http://img20.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamericavol31222pg8.jpg
http://img20.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamericavol31223sq0.jpg
http://img20.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamericavol31224rb3.jpg

He also picks Big Bertha, who weighs like what, a 1000 pounds? Not crazy or anything but noteworthy:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/9/96884/2275798-capstrenfberthawy2.jpg

i'd mentioned posted a couple more. the silos is good. here are a couple of bats' feats that i think are in the ballpark:

http://s289.photobucket.com/user/darknight2k/media/bat1000.jpg.html

imo this is one of his best feats for sure. check out the size of these sarcophogi:

http://s289.photobucket.com/user/darknight2k/media/Power-Strength/Strength/gothamaftermidnight2-batvsarcophagus1.jpg.html

now, manbat, in an effort to escape, drops one not only on batman, but on a guard as well. bats has to hold not only his own sarcophagus, but he needs to use his cable line to hold the second one up as well. to see how impressive it is, just google the approximate weight of just ONE of those things...

http://s289.photobucket.com/user/darknight2k/media/Power-Strength/Strength/gothamaftermidnight2-batvsarcophagus2.jpg.html

http://s289.photobucket.com/user/darknight2k/media/Power-Strength/Strength/gothamaftermidnight2-batvsarcophagus3.jpg.html

http://s289.photobucket.com/user/darknight2k/media/Power-Strength/Strength/gothamaftermidnight2-batvsarcophagus4.jpg.html

maybe a little pis-sy, but even if the door below was normal steel, still pretty crazy:

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/batmissiledoor1.jpg

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/batmissiledoor2.jpg

one more, another one of his better feats imo. him and some others are locked inside a large steel box and dropped underwater. bruce actually pulls open the locked steel door with just strength:

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/batvault1.jpg

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/batvault2.jpg

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/batvault7.jpg

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/batvault8.jpg

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/batvault9.jpg

it was so heavy even using the winch robin couldn't lift it. pretty solid imo.

on a separate note--started in on cap NOW. it was a good recommendation. 👆

Batman wins:

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Batman wins:

Funny thing is that Batman is so good at stealth, he bypassed Spectre's senses.

Originally posted by Golgo13
Funny thing is that Batman is so good at stealth, he bypassed Spectre's senses.

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He also has The Godd@mn Batkick; one of the most overpowered attacks in comics...

The Godd@mn Batkick can not only bring Class 100 bricks to their knees (Wonder Woman/Hulk), it can bloody them (Darkseid), and can even harm Gods Wrath (Spectre)...

Batman wins this fight at his leisure; once he's done playing around, one well aimed Godd@mned Batkick ends it...

Batman 10/10...

HOLY CRAP 217 Pages DAYUM i Say after a Epic H2H fight Cap wins

Cap wins

Cap still wins and it only gets wider the longer this goes.

Cap, 10/10.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
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He also has [b]The Godd@mn Batkick; one of the most overpowered attacks in comics...

The Godd@mn Batkick can not only bring Class 100 bricks to their knees (Wonder Woman/Hulk), it can bloody them (Darkseid), and can even harm Gods Wrath (Spectre)...

Batman wins this fight at his leisure; once he's done playing around, one well aimed Godd@mned Batkick ends it...

Batman 10/10... [/B]

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Originally posted by quanchi112
Cap, 10/10.

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Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
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