That's because of the time limit dude. Not because one is guaranteed to defeat his opponent in that time. You know sometimes it goes to a decision. Like I said before google some old boxing stuff, like Jack Johnson & stuff. There have been some reeeealy long fights in human history. The more even the fighters, the longer it will take for one of them to put the other down. & Batman took some face shots VS AM also. PIS protects him better than any suit can
Originally posted by brainchild81
That's because of the time limit dude. Not because one is guaranteed to defeat his opponent in that time. Like I said before google some old boxing stuff, like Jack Johnson & stuff. There have been some reeeealy long fights in human history. The more even the fighters, the longer it will take for one of them to put the other down. & Batman took some face shots VS AM also. PIS protects him better than any suit can
I know the fights are limited to being that long, but how many UFC fights go without a single hit being landed? 🤨 My point wasn't that people CAN'T fight for that long, but that NO ONE goes for that long without landing hits.
Ok, there have been long fights. It's still a tiny number when compared to the amount of fights that don't go nearly that long. And again, even boxing is pretty limited when it comes to offense. (grappling techniques, kicks)
Batman also survived the vacuum of space for 24 seconds, unaided. He's hella durable, and even better at dealing with pain. Aquaman didn't necessarily land a haymaker, and I'm pretty sure Batman only took one face shot. And I'm pretty sure his mask is reinforced as well as the rest of his suit, I'd say not all of the force of the blow would've come through anyway. Again, Aquaman should've been able to win with speed. Other than that, the fight was pretty good.
The hits landed, if any, won't likely be fight enders. These guys are defensive as well as offensive. With fighters this close to even, they could be in for a very long night. The shorter fights are the ones where the combatants aren't that close in ability. I've seen Shiva bust up Bruce's nose while he had the mask on(Death in the family) . AM's attack should've ended the fight. I think he hit Bats on the jaw anyway
Well since as we are moving on a tangent
Brainchild81 the fight between these two is not going to last long
If you look at Pride Champion Fights (And nother mixed martial arts sport but only these guys fight for 9 mins. The rules are not as restrictive) and UFC you would know that fights do not really last long. You see, if one have to fight an opponent equally skilled the person who lands a good shot is the one who normally wins.
Originally posted by brainchild81
The hits landed, if any, won't likely be fight enders. These guys are defensive as well as offensive. With fighters this close to even, they could be in for a very long night. The shorter fights are the ones where the combatants aren't that close in ability. I've seen Shiva bust up Bruce's nose while he had the mask on(Death in the family) . AM's attack should've ended the fight. I think he hit Bats on the jaw anyway
They don't have to end it in one fight. Cap CAN get hurt, though he won't get tired just from strain. Hits will wear him down as fast as they will Batman. The first couple of hits will probably decide the whole fight. Again, you make it sound like they'll go back and forth for hours. Which is simply untrue, NO full out fights go on for that long. It's simply not feasible, even for well matched combatants.
Meh, Shiva hits really hard in her own right, and is much more precise than Aquaman. Should Batman have taken more visible damage? Possibly, but he's taken hits like that many many times. I wasn't saying that the suit would absorb ALL of the damage, only a good amount of it.
Originally posted by brainchild81So Batman and Cap are wearing padded gloves now?
That's because of the time limit dude. Not because one is guaranteed to defeat his opponent in that time. You know sometimes it goes to a decision. Like I said before google some old boxing stuff, like Jack Johnson & stuff. There have been some reeeealy long fights in human history. The more even the fighters, the longer it will take for one of them to put the other down. & Batman took some face shots VS AM also. PIS protects him better than any suit can
Personally, I don't think much of Cap without his shield. If he doesn't have it he's going down in a fight against Batman. That's not to say he wouldn't put up a great fight but the majority of his particular style of combat really seems to focus on using it. Batman has more of a chance defeating Cap shield-less. Let's put it like that..
Originally posted by nathan summers
Personally, I don't think much of Cap without his shield. If he doesn't have it he's going down in a fight against Batman. That's not to say he wouldn't put up a great fight but the majority of his particular style of combat really seems to focus on using it. Batman has more of a chance defeating Cap shield-less. Let's put it like that..
hmm thats a good point only thing is even without his shield CAP is still well above human level and the fact that he never tire out will be a major bonus, the fight will go on for hours and bats will run out of steam whereas cap wont.
Originally posted by tiakocomIt won't go on for hours. It would be over in 15 minutes at most. They're inside of a UFC ring.
hmm thats a good point only thing is even without his shield CAP is still well above human level and the fact that he never tire out will be a major bonus, the fight will go on for hours and bats will run out of steam whereas cap wont.
As we all know, who watch UFC, fights between the worlds greatest martial artists last usually around 2-4 minutes.
Stamina really isn't going to play much of a part.
Stamina has everything to do with it. The man who can gain his wind back the fastest and keep enduring blows is going to win. Cap without his shield gives Batman MORE of a chance. Whether he'd win or not depends on the situation. Cap is just as fast, stronger and has his own unique array of combat styles. It'd be an interesting fight but I just don't see Cap winning. He's too much of a talker in my eyes and lacks ruthlessness to get the job done. No offense to Cap. ;]
Originally posted by nathan summersBut they're claiming his stamina will afford him to last for a lot longer when it's simply not the truth. Martial Arts fight in the ring just don't last long for Batman to simply wear down from throwing punches and kicks, for a couple of minutes, when he's proven multiple times he can do it for days or weeks on no sleep.
Stamina has everything to do with it. The man who can gain his wind back the fastest and keep enduring blows is going to win. Cap without his shield gives Batman MORE of a chance. Whether he'd win or not depends on the situation. Cap is just as fast, stronger and has his own unique array of combat styles. It'd be an interesting fight but I just don't see Cap winning. He's too much of a talker in my eyes and lacks ruthlessness to get the job done. No offense to Cap. ;]
Originally posted by Juntai
But they're claiming his stamina will afford him to last for a lot longer when it's simply not the truth. Martial Arts fight in the ring just don't last long for Batman to simply wear down from throwing punches and kicks, for a couple of minutes, when he's proven multiple times he can do it for days or weeks on no sleep.
thats what i mainly dislike batman, his characters is too inconsistent, how is it even possible for a human to go on for days fightin without gettin tired? granted he wil last for a while but ultimatly he shouldnt last for that long against cap, if this fight was solely based on stamina bat shouldnt even come close to CAP, where bat lacks in stamina he more than makes up for it in skills but i stil dont see how he's wining this.
Originally posted by tiakocomIt's still in his character to be able to do that, and it's canon, and applicable. He's also a better fighter than Cap, and the strength and speed difference is miniscule at best.
thats what i mainly dislike batman, his characters is too inconsistent, how is it even possible for a human to go on for days fightin without gettin tired? granted he wil last for a while but ultimatly he shouldnt last for that long against cap, if this fight was solely based on stamina bat shouldnt even come close to CAP, where bat lacks in stamina he more than makes up for it in skills but i stil dont see how he's wining this.
Speed, equal.
Stamina, equal[at least in terms of this fight. Batman has more than proven he's capable of trading blows for 9 minutes in a ufc fight.]
Strength, I'd give a slight edge to Cap in a lifting contest, but Batman striking power is second to none, there's scans of him kicking trees in half, and in Bruce Wayne Murder he dented one of the tempered steel beams that support Wayne Manor/Batcave with a kick meant for his own son.
Better Martial Artist? Obviously Batman. Master of every Earth based Martial Art.
The formula enhances all of Captain America's metabolic functions and also prevents the build-up of fatigue poisons in his muscles, giving him endurance far in excess of an ordinary person. So his stamina is WELL above normal and well above Batman's. So he's not lying. His stamina would eventually get the best of Batman and he'd outlast him in any fight.