From the Kang war arc in Avengers.
Marcus: Initial analysis indicates that they are using the inchoate energies within the pyramid to duplicate our simulacrum-projection technology, though how skilled can they---Kang: Enough, do not underestimate them. Captain America is an astounding warrior-- he has never fought under these conditions before-- but already he adapts- mastering the form more completely than many who’ve trained for decades, it is what makes him such a worthy foe.
Originally posted by ExtraMision5555
Oh, so now captian america can clone himselfwierd post man
but you are entitled to your opinion
Why is everyone acting like they're slow?
Cap has moved so fast that it seemed like he had doubles of himself.
He never actually had doubles of himself!
That is what I meant for cap (to show that batman is not faster than him)
Originally posted by MrHeavySilence
JLA DATA FILES/CASEBOOKhttp://www.fanzing.com/mag/fanzing23/jla.shtml
"Through much personal training, the Batman possesses nearly full 'total recall', a skill sometimes referred to as "photographic memory." This talent allows him to instantly recall anything that he’s seen, heard or read."
It doesn't matter how much stamina Captain America has. If he fights long enough, eventually Batman will memorize, adapt, decipher, and BEAT all of Cap's martial arts skills.
That site is not official. That site is garbage. It says superman lifts 85tons max. Please!
After reading that garbage I wouldn't believe anything they say.
Instead of saying Cap will win I now may agree with dizzle. The fight can go either way. It depends on who makes the first mistake.
Both are apparently capable of making fighting mistakes as we have seen both get hit by lesser fighters while fighting them h2h.
I haven't seen cap get hit very much by a non-meta human (once I think) but I've seen batman get hit several times. Cap might still have a slight edge because of this. But that is most likely not enough to insure victory. Thus the battle can go either way.
Originally posted by h1a8That is true though, the think about Batman's photographic memory.
That site is not official. That site is garbage. It says superman lifts 85tons max. Please!
After reading that garbage I wouldn't believe anything they say.Instead of saying Cap will win I now may agree with dizzle. The fight can go either way. It depends on who makes the first mistake.
Both are apparently capable of making fighting mistakes as we have seen both get hit by lesser fighters while fighting them h2h.
I haven't seen cap get hit very much by a non-meta human (once I think) but I've seen batman get hit several times. Cap might still have a slight edge because of this. But that is most likely not enough to insure victory. Thus the battle can go either way.
He also knew that Superman had taken some of his memories following Emperor Joker.
Or you can read the storyarc where Green Arrow was found alive. It showed him in the batcave flipping through pictures, and then he saw one of a buglary stopped, and an arrow in the wall, he immediately judged how far it was in the wall, trajectory, the spin of the arrow, and every variable instantly, and narrowed it down through various archers and then went "Ollie?", a character they burried several years earlier.
Batman doesn't hit harder. I've seen Cap injure class 75 beings with his kicks.How about Superman, Wonder Woman, Captain Marvel?? Class 75 is nothing to Batman.
It has been established that Cap has more training (Ask Silent master about this- SM seen a comic were Cap has over a hundred years of fighting experience and training from the future and in which cap still remembers everyting)
Batman is not faster. Cap dodged more lasers and bullets than Batman ever has. Cap has been shown to move so fast that he became multiples of himself. Has batman ever became multiples of himself?Given that Batman has been around longer, and held many more comics for a longer period time, I HIGHLY doubt that..
Cap has greater agility (He is a master acrobat)So is Batman.
Their mental toughness is roughly equal though
Cap wins 9/10
Cap is stronger than Batman hands down bench pressing 1,120 lbs while talking to d-man who was benchg pressing 8,500lbs, more durable, better stamina, agility only thing that batman has over cap is his high intelligences other than that cap still has the advantage over batman slight edge in phyiscal ability. Cap wins 8/10
Cap is has far better stamina
Cap is slightly stronger
Cap is a great fighter
Cap hits hard
Cap is slightly more durable
Bats is more agile
Bats is slightly faster
Bats is a better trained fighter
Bats hits just as hard
Bats is smarter
It's hard to judge since certain abilities compliment the other, they share some abilities to a "t" but how does one call it,
Agility over stamina or ...
Speed over strength or ...
Training over brute force or ...
Cunning over durability or ...
It's on these measures that they can be seen as individuals, other than that their equals.
Imho Bats edges him out by a hair, because I prefer agility, speed, cunning coupled with a lifelong training over the latter.
Bats 6/10
Originally posted by Mr Master
Cap is has far better stamina
Cap is slightly stronger
Cap is a great fighter
Cap hits hard
Cap is slightly more durableBats is more agile
Bats is slightly faster
Bats is a better trained fighter
Bats hits just as hard
Bats is smarterIt's hard to judge since certain abilities compliment the other, they share some abilities to a "t" but how does one call it,
Agility over stamina or ...
Speed over strength or ...
Training over brute force or ...
Cunning over durability or ...It's on these measures that they can be seen as individuals, other than that their equals.
Imho Bats edges him out by a hair, because I prefer agility, speed, cunning coupled with a lifelong training over the latter.
Bats 6/10
Batman is not faster. Prove it.
Batman is not more agile. Prove it. Cap is a master acrobat.
The fight can go either way though. Depending on who gets the first good strike in. This is chance though. Since both (especially batman) has been hit by lesser to greater fighting enemies (from street thugs to martial artists). In a comic, probably batman will win since he is more popular. But the writers would have him win by chance (or luck) and not by purely besting him h2h.