Captain America vs Batman(no shield-no gadgets)

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brainchild81 Privateer

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
Yes it does. And it also proves that he CHEATS. Just like Bane...he can't fight without getting juiced up....some real superhero Captain America is becoming these days.
😆 Is that relevant @ all? I'm feeling a big-time bias coming from you dude. Read what T.Strike said about the serum. Cap doesn't "shoot up" before each fight.

WrathfulDwarf THE LOOSE CANNON

I happen to love and respect Captain America since I was a kid. However, this is a fight. And in this fight Captain is facing my all time favorite Comic Book Hero....Batman. Besides none of you have admitted that Captain America's defense and blocking skills drop without his shield. Leading me to believe the bias is coming from you guys.

Thunderstrike Restricted

Actually, Cap can block without his shield, and very well. He usually relies on it when fighting Superhuman foes, like when he took on Professor Hulk.

WrathfulDwarf THE LOOSE CANNON

Are you sure? because in this cover he's not fighting any superpower foes:

http://captain-america.us/images/wallpaper/capcomics/cap11.jpg

brainchild81 Privateer

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
I happen to love and respect Captain America since I was a kid. However, this is a fight. And in this fight Captain is facing my all time favorite Comic Book Hero....Batman.
I know, but we're all supposed to put love for a character aside when we do these.
Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
Besides none of you have admitted that Captain America's defense and blocking skills drop without his shield. Leading me to believe the bias is coming from you guys.
That's because none of us(including you) honestly know how much of a drop there is (if any). There are scans of him being victorious & tough without the shield. There are none of him showing weakness without it. With Cap being a great MA with great adaptability and tactics, it's very hard to logically believe his defense "drops to the floor" w/out the shield.

Thunderstrike Restricted

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
Are you sure? because in this cover he's not fighting any superpower foes:

http://captain-america.us/images/wallpaper/capcomics/cap11.jpg

When were they trapped in Arkansas?

Anyway, he's not reliant on it to block attacks, but it helps. He has dodged gunfire at extremely close range before.

WrathfulDwarf THE LOOSE CANNON
Originally posted by brainchild81
I know, but we're all supposed to put love for a character aside when we do these. That's because none of us(including you) honestly know how much of a drop there is (if any). There are scans of him being victorious & tough without the shield. There are none of him showing weakness without it. With Cap being a great MA with great adaptability and tactics, it's very hard to logically believe his defense "drops to the floor" w/out the shield.

Deductive reasoning led me to believe his defense drops without his shield. There are scans of Captain victorious without his shield. However, the victories are agaisn't minor adversaries. Can't say he would so be victorious agaisn't Batman.

Remenber Batman is a detective and can spot and determine an opponent based on his actions and fighting skills. In round 1 Batman would spot Captain's capabilities. Captain America can't compute Batman's next move....he might stronger but not smarter than Batman.

brainchild81 Privateer

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
Deductive reasoning led me to believe his defense drops without his shield.
How much?
Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
There are scans of Captain victorious without his shield. However, the victories are agaisn't minor adversaries. Can't say he would so be victorious agaisn't Batman.

Remenber Batman is a detective and can spot and determine an opponent based on his actions and fighting skills. In round 1 Batman would spot Captain's capabilities. Captain America can't compute Batman's next move....he might stronger but not smarter than Batman.

When Bats spots Cap's capabilities, he's likely to come to the same conclusion he did in JLA/Avengers. Cap ain't as smart in an academic sense as Batman, but the tactical skill is about the same or Cap may have a slight edge. Bats can only make a good guess about the next move. Otherwise Batman'd never get hit by a non-meta. His body reading isn't like Batgirls.

AJ4LIFE Restricted

i think bats could win but being honest i think bats a better fighter but cap has the strength advantage so it might go either way but im going to stic with batman

lifeisaglich Senior Member
Originally posted by Brainchild81
Dammit Life! "Nothing" & "Noting(Note + ing)" are 2 different words. He wrote

Why didn't you post this a long time ago?

I spent all those time writing something I thought was gold only to see that I kept misreading one little word.

This just go to show that words can be dangerous things. Damn 🙂

Now what..... Mr. Busiek wanted to show, that is his intension was to show that batman was admiting cap. being more skilled than him. Now that makes alot of sence.

I am kind of ok with that, because batman has been know to downplay himself when it come to these matters.

lifeisaglich Senior Member

Interesting stuff

brainchild81 Privateer

It's all good. When you posted this

Originally posted by lifeisaglich

I see what I got wrong....the misquote was not intensional

I thought you had noticed it already
Originally posted by lifeisaglich

I am kind of ok with that, because batman has been know to downplay himself when it come to these matters.

Bats is one of the best in the world & as a result, he's very prideful. I've never known him to downplay himself. Any scans of this?

snoopdogg Big Pimpin

Originally posted by AJ4LIFE
i think bats could win but being honest i think bats a better fighter but cap has the strength advantage so it might go either way but im going to stic with batman
This actually makes alot of sense. That's my opinion on the fight too.

But I would say just by looking at the scans posted all over this thread I am personally impressed with Batmans the most.

brainchild81 Privateer

Do you think any of the bat-scans are PIS?

snoopdogg Big Pimpin

Originally posted by brainchild81
Do you think any of the bat-scans are PIS?
I never use that argument reguardless of what happens.

If they happen they happen.

lifeisaglich Senior Member
Bats is one of the best in the world & as a result, he's very prideful. I've never known him to downplay himself. Any scans of this?

Superman/Batman # 3
His fight with shiva in which he said something to effects of I wonder which one of us is truely the best.

brainchild81 Privateer

That's not downplaying himself. No PIS Shiva > Bats

lifeisaglich Senior Member

Yeah Shiva is either greater than or equal to bat's In that particular fight batman woundered which one of them was truely the better fighter.

Juntai Divine Vengeance

Originally posted by brainchild81
That's not downplaying himself. No PIS Shiva > Bats
I don't see how PIS is involved in a regular human vs regular human fight, lol. I thought that was more or less geared to when sayyy... Batman throws New God Orion around.

Juntai Divine Vengeance

Originally posted by snoopdogg
This actually makes alot of sense. That's my opinion on the fight too.

But I would say just by looking at the scans posted all over this thread I am personally impressed with Batmans the most.

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