Originally posted by Mindset
Cap's peak is higher.
Yup.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Their feats would suggest that Marvel peak human is different from DC's peak human.
Batman is peak human but many in marvel are classed at Peak human strength like Crossbones, Batroc and some others(Batman fits this bill as well). But none of those names are at the peak of human "potential" like Cap or the other phrase that's been used at the next step in human evolution like Cap.
So Batman fans trying to say Bats peakhuman is the same as Cap's is no different then a Crossbones fan saying Cross peak human is the same as Cap. The distinction is really there as if that's not enough Cap has also been billed as "almost superhuman" and strength of 10.(just like Slade).
The way i see this fight its cut down 55/100 in Caps favor, the both beat one another in different categories. While yes Cap tops Bats in when it comes to strength, Bats tops Cap when it comes to durability. Bats has been shown to take way more punishment then Cap. Bats tops Caps also in the aspect that his willing to fight dirty, he looks for ways to end fights quickly especially when he knows his opponent is superior then him. But at the end of the day Caps overall physical treat over bats gives him the win imo.
Originally posted by supremthor
The way i see this fight its cut down 55/100 in Caps favor, the both beat one another in different categories. While yes Cap tops Bats in when it comes to strength, Bats tops Cap when it comes to durability. Bats has been shown to take way more punishment then Cap. Bats tops Caps also in the aspect that his willing to fight dirty, he looks for ways to end fights quickly especially when he knows his opponent is superior then him. But at the end of the day Caps overall physical treat over bats gives him the win imo.
Bats durability doesn't seem better to me. Cap's is also better and he heals faster then Bruce as well.
Cap is a battle hardened veteran so if this is a fight to the death I can't see why he would hesitate to go for a killing blow so we can take his morals out of the picture. Batman however has faced far more skilled opponents In a hand to hand only environment than cap has and thus his experience there should give him the edge.
Batman: thousands of h2h matches, many of them just sparring to increase h2h skill specifically.
Cap: thousands of training sessions with the avengers to increase skills on dealing with global threats. Maybe some friendly h2h sparring and enemy h2h combat but not the focus of caps abilities.
Batman has the experience edge in h2h by far imo.
Originally posted by The MISTER
Batman however has faced far more skilled opponents In a hand to hand only environment than cap has and thus his experience there should give him the edge.
Captain America armed only with a shield, used to, week in week out charge into pitched battle to face highly trained professional soldiers equipped with guns and just about any other weapon the German army in WW2 equipped its troops with. He would then proceed to beat the crap out of them with his bare hands. 😕
Originally posted by The MISTER
Batman: thousands of h2h matches, many of them just sparring to increase h2h skill specifically.
Captain America: thousands(I plucked that one out of thin air too) of h2h matches, many of them just sparring to increase h2h skill specifically.
Originally posted by The MISTER
Cap: thousands of training sessions with the avengers to increase skills on dealing with global threats. Maybe some friendly h2h sparring and enemy h2h combat but not the focus of caps abilities.
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Originally posted by The MISTER
Batman has the experience edge in h2h by far imo.
We are all welcome to our opinions. 🙂
Originally posted by lifeisaglichBatman cannot match match Steve Rodgers in stamina ever . Rodgers Stamina is enhanced bu the SS no builup of lactic acids . Batman ''edge'' in skill which is debatable is not enough to to be a great advantage.
The only thing that captain america has going for him in this fight is the fact that he is stronger that batman. Captain america is not faster than batman in terms of reflexes. And the strength that capt. has is nothing batman cannot handle. . Which is what count in the fight.His strength is countered by batman's martial arts skills. Captain America is good but batman is better.
Remember batman's gadget do not always work and when they fail batman has to rely on his martial skills. He does not have the good fortune of having something like the SSS running through his veins. He has to think fast and move just as fast all of this he has been shown doing.
The SSS is batman in the DC universe. All else remaining equal except strength which is not a factor.
This is tie match.
Batman can use gadgets but he can also work without them.