Master Court
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Originally posted by lifeisaglich
Batman is also the pinnacle of human perfection, and he got that way without any drugs. Batman is at the peak of human perfection. You do not like I am sorry but this is what DC says. Take it up with them.Batman dodged a SNIPER bullet that has already been shot. The shot came from behind him.
Well everything except strength.
Well it can be proven; batman can disable a person just by touching them without doing much on his part. Has Capt. Shown anything like this. Yes Capt know’s pressure points but has he ever disabled some just by touching them.
Standard gear: slight edge to batman wining lets say 6 wins over Capt's 5.
No. Batman is NOT better than Cap in H2H. He's equal on Cap's worse day. Cap was fighting wars before Batman was even born. I mean, I know Batman was created a long time ago, but the character is not seventy or eighty years old. He's only like mid-thirties. Cap's character DID fight in WWII and he fought with his shield and bare hands.
What's more, he's physically P-E-R-F-E-C-T. On a genetic level. Batman cannot and will not ever reach true absolute peak, simply because he's genetically inferior to Captain America. You have to be genetically perfect, to reach physical perfection. Get it?
Cap didn't just work out and eat right. The SSS made him perfect on a genetic level. That's why he's perfect. Batman is just really, really fit. Nothing any other genetically normal guy can't achieve with the same regime. But to hit Cap's heights of perfection, the SSS is the only way to go. Not even Superman is genetically superior. He's not perfect either. Just a standard humanoid alien who, out of sheer luck, was sent to Earth and got enormous superhuman powers from our sun.
And calling it a drug(while technically accurate), you have to keep in mind it was an experimental serum. Steve volunteered to take it only knowing what it was suppose to do, not what it WOULD do. But he wanted to serve his country. His courage and valor earned him the reward he got. Not to mention he was only a college kid when he volunteered. College kids can't reach Batman level fitness. It's been medically shown that people don't finally stop developing until mid-twenties. And before he even took the serum, he went through combat training, and he was selected based on performance. That means he was at least a military-grade combatant BEFORE the serum. And THEN he was given the SSS, which enhanced every last part of him to physical perfection.
Batman's feats have not at all outmatched Cap's. Many are lower. Great, Batman dodged a sniper bullet. I'm aware of the physics involved and that it was a good feat(depending on the distance of the shot) for a genetically normal human. However, Cap, again, has dodged countless bullets from numerous shooters firing fully automatic weapons at close range. And usually not being hit. And he does this while charging TOWARDS the shooters, and then beats the shit out of them. When he is hit, he shrugs it off.
Batman gets hit, which he has before, he drops, or slows down. Once, the cops shot him in the leg, he struggled to get up a set of stairs to reach the roof. He gets injured like any other normal man. This means either Cap is much more durable, which is likely considering he's physically superior in every way, or Cap has more resolve. I don't want to bash the heart of either character, so we can say their resolve is equal. After all, I recall Batman ignoring the bullet wound, meaning it didn't mentally slow him down. But Cap has never been slowed down in any way by a bullet that didn't kill him. And he's never been crippled, even after being hit by opponents like the Hulk or Iron Man. A little breather, and he's up and at it again.
Batman, without the gadgets, it outclassed in every way. Batman's cunning often requires his gadgets, and that's where he shines. And guys Batman has beaten up without the gadgets would be just as easily(or more easily) beaten by Cap.
Bare naked with nothing but boxers and briefs, Cap wins 10/10.
Standard gear and anything goes, Cap wins 6-7/10.