Racially Insensitive, Racist, Or Not?

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
no, it destroys your logic, how can a comparison between two species be similar to a comparison of individuals of the same species?

You are lecturing me on logic? Miss "If I lived like an eskimo I'd know what it's like to actually be one."? Funny.

How can you compare? Because it's not the subject matter that is important, it's the idea. You, in a defeated haze, overlook that.

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
If two eskimo's lived two diffrent lives, by your logic they could understand each others lives.

They would both know what it's like to be born an eskimo, yes. What it's like to be an eskimo. Not what it's like living in different conditions, but that's irrelevant.

They would both know what it's like to be an actual eskimo. You wouldn't, unless you were born one.

You skipped a lot of my post, like the part where I proved that no matter how well you replicate something, you are never going to be IT. You will always be a replica. Same with studying black Americans. You will never be one, nor will you know what it's like to be, unless you are one.

How many more times? At least give me a number so I can say it in one post.

-AC

Originally posted by debbiejo

[edit] PVS you know what kind of igloo I'm talking about....blocks of ice.. 🙄

hence the word "technically". et tu deb?

Originally posted by PVS
hence the word "technically". et tu deb?

et tu Brutus?

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
You are lecturing me on logic? Miss "If I lived like an eskimo I'd know what it's like to actually be one."? Funny.

How can you compare? Because it's not the subject matter that is important, it's the idea. You, in a defeated haze, overlook that.

I can compare because I've lived there life "EXACTLY" how would I not know???

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
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They would both know what it's like to be born an eskimo, yes. What it's like to be an eskimo. Not what it's like living in different conditions, but that's irrelevant.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
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You skipped a lot of my post, like the part where I proved that no matter how well you replicate something, you are never going to be IT. You will always be a replica. Same with studying black Americans. You will never be one, nor will you know what it's like to be, unless you are one.

-AC

And you ignored mines, I never said you can be exactly 100% like someone, I said you can know how it feels.

Originally posted by Blue nocturne

And you ignored mines, I never said you can be exactly 100% like someone, I said you can know how it feels.

no you dont. i've had many black friends. many friends who have experienced racism. but i assure you i have no idea what it feels like to be called a n____. all you can know is facts and figures. you dont know how it feels to be someone you are not.

Originally posted by PVS
no you dont. i've had many black friends. many friends who have experienced racism. but i assure you i have no idea what it feels like to be called a n____. all you can know is facts and figures. you dont know how it feels to be someone you are not.

If I call you a Nigg*r you won't know how it feels to be called one?

Though in some circumstances you can....Me myself am olive complected and I get stopped going across the Canadian border because of middle Eastern problems.......And I'm 1/2 Italian......so, in some regards a person can..

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
I can compare because I've lived there life "EXACTLY" how would I not know???

Compare. You don't know what it's actually like to be an actual eskimo, just by copying one, do you? No. What's hard to grasp?

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
It's very relevant, it proves someone of a same race can not understand one's plight, while someone of a different "RACE" can.

Which is irrelevant. The point is this: Does she know more about what it's like to be a black American than anyone else here? No. Why? She's not one. Studying them for a decade won't make it so.

Her reasoning: "I am of a minority, I can relate." Yes, to being a minority, not to being a black American.

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
And you ignored mines, I never said you can be exactly 100% like someone, I said you can know how it feels.

You can't, you can have an idea, an accurate one. A pinpoint one, it will never be the same. Why? Because we all experience things differently, react to things differently, think and feel differently.

Not too sure why this has to be explained to a human over 13.

-AC

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
If I call you a Nigg*r you won't know how it feels to be called one?

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
If I call you a Nigg*r you won't know how it feels to be called one?

no. ill know the awkward feeling of being white and being called a n___.
nothing more. please dont tell me this is over your head.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Compare. You don't know what it's actually like to be an actual Eskimo, just by copying one, do you? No. What's hard to grasp?

I'm not an Eskimo, but I would know how it feels to live like one and be one because I 've been raised exactly like one.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri

You can't, you can have an idea, an accurate one. A pinpoint one, it will never be the same. Why? Because we all experience things differently, react to things differently, think and feel differently.

-AC

Originally posted by PVS
no. ill know the awkward feeling of being white and being called a n___.
nothing more. please dont tell me this is over your head.

But you would still no what it feels like to be called that word, because You were called it. the effect maybe different but you would "KNOW" what it's like to be called that word why is that so hard to grasp?

Another interesting thing I just thought of is when my brother came back from Japan with a jacket for me.....now it must of had some Japanese gang emblem on it because I was certainly stared at and ridiculed about it when going down the street....finally I had to take it off.....so people can get a taste of what it might be like.....they don't like it, but never can really experience the full affects of it.....

See, I could take the Jacket off.........Races can not take their races off.

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
I'm not an Eskimo, but I would know how it feels to live like one and be one because I 've been raised exactly like one.

lets just assume you're telling the truth and you were raised like an eskimo. fine then.

but the point made was: would you know what its like to be an eskimo just by reading about what its like?

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
I'm not an Eskimo, but I would know how it feels to live like one and be one because I 've been raised exactly like one.

So you'd know what it's like to be raised like an eskimo. You said it yourself. Raised LIKE one. Like, like, like.

You will never know what it is like to genetically be an eskimo.

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
I never said I can be one, I said be like one the key word is "like". I may not an Eskimo but I can be like one if I have similar experience and lifestyle.

Precisely. Like, not "are" or "am".

You can damn sure be like one, you can never be one. Ergo, you'll never know what it's like to actually be one. Only what it's like to be like one.

Is this really beyond you?

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
But you would still no what it feels like to be called that word, because You were called it. the effect maybe different but you would "KNOW" what it's like to be called that word why is that so hard to grasp?

Oh my.

It's not hard to grasp. A white man will know what it's like to be called the N word, so will a black man, but the white man will never know what it's like for the black man.

Let's see if that one works.

-AC

Nobody cares about what I'm saying do they?? 😕 I have valid points.

Originally posted by PVS

but the point made was: would you know what its like to be an eskimo just by reading about what its like?

Reading about something and experiencing something are two different things.

Originally posted by debbiejo
Nobody cares about what I'm saying do they?? 😕 I have valid points.

Your points are similar to PVS and alpha, because someone is physically different they can't share similar experiences and relate is not true.

Originally posted by debbiejo
Another interesting thing I just thought of is when my brother came back from Japan with a jacket for me.....now it must of had some Japanese gang emblem on it because I was certainly stared at and ridiculed about it when going down the street....finally I had to take it off.....so people can get a taste of what it might be like.....they don't like it, but never can really experience the full affects of it.....

See, I could take the Jacket off.........Races can not take their races off.

good point
but many races can disguise their ethnicity...accept of coarse for dark skinned people and especially most african americans.

Why do you have a problem with things being different? If they're different you immediately retreat into "YOU CAN'T COMPARE!"

Seeing as you said it though. Experiencing and reading about are two different things.

Just like relating to and living through.

-AC

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
Reading about something and experiencing something are two different things.

so we've been in agreement this whole time and didnt even know it.

thank you!

Originally posted by Blue nocturne

Your points are similar to PVS and alpha, because someone is physically different they can't share similar experiences and relate is not true.

thats wrong though. when an eskimo goes into a town, he's still an eskimo. you're just another white dude (assuming you're white of coarse..and a dude)