Racially Insensitive, Racist, Or Not?

Started by Blue nocturne26 pages
Originally posted by PVS
good point
but many races can disguise their ethnicity...accept of coarse for dark skinned people and especially most african americans.

how do you disguise your race, and I'm still waiting for you to tell me the difference between an arab and a latino "RACIALLY"?

Your points are similar to PVS and alpha, because someone is physically different they can't share similar experiences and relate is not true.
But in reality you can experience it to some degree but cannot truly know unless you are them.........same as the saying "Walking in somebody else's shoes".....

Originally posted by debbiejo
.........But in reality you can experience it to some degree but cannot truly know unless you are them.........same as the saying "Walking in somebody else's shoes".....

THANK YOU DEBBIE, that's what I've been trying to say.

It's not, is it? Because I've said that all along, and you've been disagreeing.

All the experience in the world won't make you something you're not, if it's impossible to be it.

-AC

Originally posted by PVS
oh how pompous and eletist 🙄
you sure do know what its like to look down on others based on ignorance so perhaps i was mistaken on your expertise in discrimination.

yes it is.
and you continue to refuse to take it in the context of the post, do you not? dont think you're going to succesfully repeat a portion of my point and browbeat me into submission. i know what i meant, and everyone here seems to know as well given the lack of outrage. even you bring up economics to explain criminal activity in the ghetto but refuse to connect the dots as to why so many blacks are in jail.

ECONOMICS

CLASSISM (the poor stay poor, the middle class become poor, the rich get exponentially richer)

As for the rest of your post - i still don't understand how it relates to what you said.
Classism is nothing new, its about as old as racism

So...how did i take it out of context? Just simple sentance of ''I was trying to say *whatever*''

But you can experience it to some degree and then KNOW to some degree AC...

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
It's not, is it? Because I've said that all along, and you've been disagreeing.

All the experience in the world won't make you something you're not, if it's impossible to be it.

-AC

And this "it" your referring to is race, If I was born an Eskimo regardless of my skin color I'm an Eskimo.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Not perhaps, most deffinitivly mistaken.

As for the rest of your post - i still don't understand how it relates to what you said.
Classism is nothing new, its about as old as racism (even older)

So...how did i take it out of context? Just simple sentance of ''I was trying to say *whatever*''

Racism exists? What is racism? Dictionary.com defines it as:

rac·ism
n.
1. The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.
2. Discrimination or prejudice based on race.

What race? Racism is non-existent, by your rationale.

-AC

Originally posted by debbiejo
But you can experience it to some degree and then KNOW to some degree AC...

Absolutely.

I don't need to have cancer to know the symptoms of it.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Racism exists? What is racism? Dictionary.com defines it as:

[b]rac·ism
n.
1. The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.
2. Discrimination or prejudice based on race.

What race? Racism is non-existent, by your rationale.

-AC [/B]

Define race as well.

Originally posted by debbiejo
But you can experience it to some degree and then KNOW to some degree AC...

No, you can related highly to it. You can't actually know. You can never actually know.

It doesn't matter how vivid or realistic the experience was.

-AC

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Absolutely.

I don't need to have cancer to know the symptoms of it.

You need to have it to know what it's like to have it.

I dare you, seriously, to go into a cancer ward and say to the patient "I know what it's like because I've read about the symptoms and experience."

Please, just try that.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
No, you can related highly to it. You can't actually know. You can never actually know.

It doesn't matter how vivid or realistic the experience was.

-AC

But if I had cancer then I would know what it feels like, regardless of color.

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
Define race as well.

It's defined as:

race
n.
A local geographic or global human population distinguished as a more or less distinct group by genetically transmitted physical characteristics.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
It's defined as:

[b]race
n.
A local geographic or global human population distinguished as a more or less distinct group by genetically transmitted physical characteristics.

-AC [/B]

so now tell me what's the difference between the "LATINO RACE" and " ARAB RACE" physically?

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
But if I had cancer then I would know what it feels like, regardless of color.

Yes, because you have had it, factually. You haven't vicariously experienced it, read about it or researched it. You have actually had the disease.

You can't know what it's like if you haven't had it.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Yes, because you have had it, factually. You haven't vicariously experienced it, read about it or researched it. You have actually had the disease.

You can't know what it's like if you haven't had it.

-AC

But if I "HAD" the life of an eskimo I would be an eskimo.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
No, you can related highly to it. You can't actually know. You can never actually know.

It doesn't matter how vivid or realistic the experience was.

-AC

I said to some DEGREE.....That means some part of your experience is what others would experience it to be possibly all the time.........You get a taste of it.....At least I could take my jacket off..............

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
so now tell me what's the difference between the "LATINO RACE" and " ARAB RACE" physically?

The Latin race don't all look the same, nor do the Arab.

That wasn't my point. My point was, I don't know what it's like to be Arabic, Latino or anything else other than a White male.

Neither does anyone else who isn't Latino, Arabic or anything else.

-AC

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
But if I "HAD" the life of an eskimo I would be an eskimo.

Not a natural eskimo. Not a born eskimo. You just know what it's like for you, not for them. You know what it's like living in those conditions...FOR YOU. Not for them. You don't know what it's like to be one, unless you're born one.

What is so hard to grasp? Seriously?

-AC