TPM Qui-Gon Jiin vs. ROTJ Luke

there's supposed to be what 2 years between ESB and ROTJ? even looking at Shadows of the Empire, there's still a lot of unaccounted time. And Luke has obviously progressed tremendously between ESB and Jabba's Palace, Let alone the duel with Vader.

Originally posted by Fishy
When he went to Vader in ESB, Yoda said he wasn't ready. Luke said he was and promised to come back, he then promptly went away to come back in ROTJ when Yoda died, he did not spend the time in between training with Yoda, he even says he's going back to his old friend to fulfill that promise he made when he left in the first place.

There are 2 ways to view that scene. One like you said, he hadn't been back since he left during ESB. the second that he did return, but left again to help with han's rescue.

And there is absolutely no evidence for that.

And actually there is no time between Shadows of the Empire and ROTJ. It deals with everything that happened then and ended with the alliance hero's landing on Tatooine and Boba giving Han to Jabba, and of course Vader arriving at the Death Star, which is just moments before the movie actually begins...

Originally posted by ((The_Anomaly))
No. Anakin is a pigheaded arrogant fool who thought he was the best thing since hyperdrive. He would not say that about himself literally, espicially to an enemy.

And the lightning didn't mean he was a slow learner. Hes just stupid and arrogant where Obi was not. Anakin was more skilled the Obi in ATOC, he proved that by not getting pWned near as fast against Dooku. (And by the rest of the movie)

It was an insult, but Ani meant it.

"Your overconfidence is your weakness."- Luke

^ Yes, it was a diss, but Luke still meant it.

Originally posted by DiamondBullets
It was an insult, but Ani meant it.

"Your overconfidence is your weakness."- Luke

^ Yes, it was a diss, but Luke still meant it.

I have already described why he said it. It was as an insult against Dooku when he said, "brave of you boy, but I thought you had learned your lesson". And in the beginning of the movie Anakin said that he was better than Obi-Wan who he said was equal to Mace Windu, in 10 years. And he was one of the fastest learning students there, he was the youngest to be appointed to the council. Anakin was not slow.

hah padawan listen to the master, he knows most stuff 😛

Originally posted by kamikz
I have already described why he said it. It was as an insult against Dooku when he said, "brave of you boy, but I thought you had learned your lesson". And in the beginning of the movie Anakin said that he was better than Obi-Wan who he said was equal to Mace Windu, in 10 years. And he was one of the fastest learning students there, he was the youngest to be appointed to the council. Anakin was not slow.

He just said that to impress Padme. He wuz juss trying to earn some pussy points.

"Besides, your senses aren't that attuned." - Obiwan

Hey hey hey, i dont wanna hear that kind of stuff.... There is no logical things in your words

Originally posted by Kaithen
Hey hey hey, i dont wanna hear that kind of stuff.... There is no logical things in your words

What do you mean? He was practically trying to impress her throughout the whole movie.

Originally posted by DiamondBullets
He just said that to impress Padme. He wuz juss trying to earn some pussy points.

"Besides, your senses aren't that attuned." - Obiwan

That's an assumption.

What jedi had in 13 years developed as fast as Anakin? Dooku saw him as the best practisioner of his style ever, that includes Mace Windu when he was younger (since he had to master it to master Vaapad). Anakin also defeated Assaj twice while masters fell to her easily.

How does Anakin being the best with his style include Mace Windu, who used a completely different style?

I think what he says right afterwards explains it.

Originally posted by Fishy
How does Anakin being the best with his style include Mace Windu, who used a completely different style?

I said, a younger Windu. I though you had to master Djem before you could begin to practise Vaapad, isen't that right? And Dooku said Anakin was the best practisioner he had ever seen using Djem. I didn't mean he can pwn Windu for that, no way in hell. It was just showing that Anakin's swordsmanship was one if not the most promising ever. (PT) And he had practised for a short time, so he was not a slow learner, but it still required 13 years for him to come that far, so Luke would need to be fast as hell to master it as good as Anakin did. (Which he is not since he would whine most of the time lol)