Exar Kun vs NJO Luke and DE Sidious

... Ew.

Originally posted by Wesker
Fishy hasn't effectively DISPROVED that there's a million people there, and the building is clearly large enough for that many people.

And IKC pointed out something that Fishy seems to be glossing over: Kun's the only person to show control on this scale, aside from Sadow. Joruus actually didn't do it.

The scans clearly show that there can not be a million people there.

And i'm not glossing over anything, I am saying that he didn't control a million people, he froze thousands tens of thousands likely, not a million.

I agree I saw the scan there is absolutely no way 1 million people can fit in there. In any case Kun's feat was impressive but not as impressive as you all are making it out to be.

IKC, I will not answer your post until you answer my post in the Antediluvian thread at EoD.

I agree that Kun didn't control a million people. Janus, look at the ROTS scene. There is no way there is room for a million people in the Senate Chamber and it makes no sense that the Senate Chamber would have gotten smaller as the Republic got bigger. Kun did freeze tens of thousands, perhaps a few hundred thousand people, but not a million.

On the Joruus point. I never saw any indication that regular starship officers were clones onboard the Chimera. Many stormtroopers and tie pilots were clones, but Thrawn was planning to hit Coruscant soon when Joruus took control, meaning that he probably wouldn't have hit best people off being cloned during a strike concerning his flagship against the Republic capital.

Actually, in Cloak of Deception and in The Approaching Storm, they indicate that the Republic's senate was composed of senators who governed MULTIPLE systems.

Originally posted by Wesker
Actually, in Cloak of Deception and in The Approaching Storm, they indicate that the Republic's senate was composed of senators who governed MULTIPLE systems.

and whats to say this is not the case during TOTJ?

I don't see any evidence that Joruss was controlling clones either.

Meh, I have to go to work. You guys can go play and be haters.

Originally posted by Wesker
Meh, I have to go to work. You guys can go play and be haters.

I don't hate Kun, I just simply won't accept the more absurd things stated about him without prove, which I still haven't seen.

You guys worship Kun

Originally posted by Wesker
Meh, I have to go to work. You guys can go play and be haters.

I've even said that I'm not arguing that Exar would lose to Luke because he probably wouldn't. I'm just saying that he isn't as powerful as IKC claims.

I need to read these 3 books within the next few days to argue DN Luke's abilities.

I was teasing you guys. I can't provide scans while at work, so I can't argue real effectively. And since I'm going to be here for seven hours and likely go to bed when I get home, that puts me out of the debate.

Ok in that case NJO Luke owns bye

Actually, I already noted that I don't think Kun really "has" this battle. But every other thread is anti-Kun screamfest, so they all look alike to me.

Lol we need anti Kun rhetoric to make up for IKC's love of him.

Originally posted by Wesker
Actually, I already noted that I don't think Kun really "has" this battle. But every other thread is anti-Kun screamfest, so they all look alike to me.

Not really Anti-Kun I actually believe Kun has a chance here...

I am just saying that Kun really hasn't done some of the things that are stated..

Its like me claiming Revan would defeat TPM Anakin because he defeated two Terentak with a lightsaber, well thats not true he just defeated two Terentaks how is unknown. Now with Kun its not as much an unknown as he killed 20 Terentaks.

Get the point? His feats are overrated at times.

Actually, I don't get that point. Anyone with a weapon should be able to pwn TPM Annie. Your comment on Exar Kun defeating twenty just... doesn't follow. Elaborate?

Well Exar Kun his feats are often overrated, or some of them and other underrated I try to fight both.

For instance Exar Kun created a second amulet IKC claimed it was the same as the first. I claimed otherwise because we never saw it do the same thing as the first. This would actually make Exar his feat more impressive, to create something new is better then to copy an old one IMO.

Exar Kun freezing a million people, just looking at the scans make it impossible that there are a million people there, meaning he froze less. This would make it less impressive still more impressive then anybody else that tried it for as far as I know, but its far less then a Million.

Exar Kun controlling the senate when he in fact froze them, now this again is less impressive. Still impressive but less so.

All the arguing I'm doing in those posts is not to make Kun seem weaker, just to rate him as he really is. Still far more powerful then most people except for the Ancient Sith, but without some of the feats some people claim.

agreed