DN Luke Runs a Short Guantlet

Originally posted by Illustrious
How was weapon X seemingly more powerful, at least in close proximity such as weapon Y?

Do you know why you can't assume this? Because you haven't established that they are markedly similar enough to assume.

That's like saying if I can push a car, I should be able to push a stone slab. The difference is that the car has something called "wheels" while the slab does not. If you can establish that the slab has wheels, then go ahead and make the assumption.

Otherwise you're talking out of your ass. Prove the similarity, instead of just the all ambiguous "power."

They are both blasts of energy, they both have the same effect and are both seen doing the same thing, it would be a very safe assumption to say that they are in fact the same.

I agree with you fishy but at the same time Illustrious can refute that by saying one is a manifestation of the force, so you would essentially be comparing apples and oranges.

Corran Horn was able to absorb energy attacks, heat from superheated water, and flames from several large bombs equally well. Everything points towards energy absorbtion working for ALL types of energy.

BTW, tdtd, a blaster bolt from an AT-AT isn't as powerful as a turbolaser blast. Very powerful, yes, but not nearly as powerful.

Err did I say turbolaser? My bad. Good points btw

Turbolasers are those huge bolts from ISDs, you see 'em shatter meteors in ESB.

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Originally posted by Illustrious
How was weapon X seemingly more powerful, at least in close proximity such as weapon Y?

Again: Kun did blast a temple wall which was several hundret years old. Two shots from an AT-AT did destroy a complete buiding. A single shot from a Stardestroyers tubolaser vaporized an entire asteroid. Keep that in mind.

That's like saying if I can push a car, I should be able to push a stone slab. The difference is that the car has something called "wheels" while the slab does not. If you can establish that the slab has wheels, then go ahead and make the assumption.

No. It's saying if you can blast an entire building into oblivion or vaporize some huge asteroid you would surely be able to blast through organic material (Sith beast) or a century old temple wall. Or do you want to assume now that a Sith beast and a temple wall have a higher density than an asteroid or the metal used to construct stardestroyers (the generator-building blown away by the AT-AT in ESB was the former part of a stardestroyer) ?

Otherwise you're talking out of your ass. Prove the similarity, instead of just the all ambiguous "power."

I wonder how you fail to see the similarity between blowing a temple wall up, blowing a building up and blowing an asteroid up. Energy used to destroy physical objects. Unless Kun is shown to vaporize buildings or asteroids that are several kilometres away I fail to see where the blasts from his amulets are more powerful than a turbolaser shot from a stardestroyer or a shot from an AT-AT. And since Luke blocked the latter effortless and somebody inferior to Luke turned away turbolaser fire from a Stardestroyer over some amount of time (and this is not even talking about Corran Horn - another one inferior to Luke absorbing the energy of several bomb explosions) I fail to see why Luke shouldn't be able to block / absorb / turn away blasts from Kun's amulet...

That's a very good point Borbarad. Who blocked turbolasers?

I believe he is referring to Raynar, who blocked dozens of turbolaser beams away from his ship. He didn't actually absorb them though.

Ok... Wow that's quite impressive. So we have instances of Luke being able to block powerful blasts like Kun's, and still nothing to show that Kun could block emerald lightning. So the DN Luke>Kun scenario is looking much clearer for me.

And there still isn't anything to show Emerald lightning would work, besides an instakill technique isn't the only thing that can kill people, I don't get why you are so stuck up with Luke his emerald lightning.

For all we know Exar could block Luke's lightning with his lightsaber blade. Seeing as energy absorbtion is a very commonly known technique, saying that Exar can't block Luke's lighning is probably wrong, as Exar obviously has the raw power to block it.

Right but the proof was provided that Luke could block Kun's blasts. There's no proof that Kun can block Luke's nifty move, only speculation, logical or not. How do we know Kun has the power to block Luke's "instakills". Can Kun block Traya's instakill?

Nobody can block Kreia's instakill don't ask stupid questions.

anyways Luke his lightning is described as something like lightning right? That would mean like lightning it can be blocked with a lightsaber or perhaps with the force, now I doubt Exar Kun knew the technique to block something like that with his bare hands but the lightsaber is probably still going to work.

First of all, Traya's instakill has zero to do with this fight. Second, it would be far more illogicall for Exar to be able to block it then for him to not be able too. As I stated, Kun has the power to block these instakills, as he also has the power to make the ground shake under his feat( that would require very large amounts of energy).

Fishy, I would think that the ability to block lighting would haqve been mentioned somewhere in all of the Sith knowledge that he got.

Youre right it may or may not work, my point is that Kun blocking Luke's stuff is purely speculation while we can provide a reasonable assumption for Luke blocking Kun's blast. That's all.

Glentract, where is it shown that Kun had the power to block instakills? Show me as I've never heard of anything.

It's not purely speculation that Exar should be able to block Luke's lightning. It's just as logical as Luke being able to block Exar's amulet blasts in fact. You're just being a Kun hater.

Read Fishy's most recent post, it explains why Exar should be able to block Luke's attack, as mine above that does as well.

No I actually love his hair, his personality, and his nifty saber. There is no proof that Kun can block Luke's instakill but there is PROOF of a possibility that Luke could block Kun's amulet.

Yes there is you moron. Read people's post and THINK about them. It's obvious that Exar will be able to block Luke's lightning.

Personal attacks, how cute. "Read people's posts" instead of simplying providing your own logic or proof.. Way to debate.