DN Luke Runs a Short Guantlet

Started by Darth_Glentract19 pages

It didn't happen in one book. It was a combination of things. He noticed that his body was beginning to show signs of all of his force use(starting to look like Palpatine). I think that all of the in-fighting in the NJO also had something to do with it.

Ah ok gotcha

Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
It didn't happen in one book. It was a combination of things. He noticed that his body was beginning to show signs of all of his force use(starting to look like Palpatine). I think that all of the in-fighting in the NJO also had something to do with it.

The whole Palpatine issue happens after he uses all that energy in one of the DN novels; it was only temporary.

I think there were some more subtle long term effects as well.

None that were mentioned, no. At the time, he had was afraid that he was turning into Palpatine, but Mara reassured him. After that, there's never another mention of him resembling the late Sith Lord.

I read somewhere that he was turning old and frail when he started using the force to create an illusion or illusions.

Originally posted by Faunus
The whole Palpatine issue happens after he uses all that energy in one of the DN novels; it was only temporary.
Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
Luke never made any attempt to turn Lomi back to the light. I think that he knew from the start that she was too much of a threat to the galaxy to be left alive, as unlike Vader she would have ended up destroying the galaxy. And it's more then just major characters tha he didn't use it on. What about all of the Kiliks who he was obviously ready to kill? He could have pwned them but chose instead to use more conventional force powers. Seeing as Luke has come a long way in going back to a lightside only view of the force, you may be right that it was just a philosophical thing. Why would he abandon his values for this fight? It would be similar to Yoda using Darkside powers against Sidious in ROTS.

Ah well...
For Lomi: Luke isn't exactly somebody that will come up with killing people fast - not if he can avoid it. Of course he might not want to turn anybody but I guess if he can take somebody as prisoner he would do that more likely than killing the person. At least he did kill Lomi since he had no other choice. Same with the Vong or the Killik - Obviously he couldn't take all of them as prisoners and so he had to kill them.
The point is that when he used emerald lightning he just had to deal with one single slayer. Maybe that takes a lot of force power (assuming that force lightning takes a damn lot of power and isn't as deadly as emerald lightning) and so it was ineffective to use it against multiple opponents. Not even talking about the fact that the EU would be damn boring if you just see Luke pwning everybody else with emerald lightning.
But does that say he can't use it against anybody else than a Vong ? No. Obviously he had reasons not to do so since I fail to see why something that works against beings completely immune to force powers (except you have Vongsense - which Luke didn't have) shouldn't work against anybody else.

And this is not compareable to Yoda using the Dark Side to fight Sidious. Luke did use the ability before and as it seem it had nothing to do with the "dark side" since Luke wasn't exactly a "dark sider" or on the edge of the dark side in the NJO series (or TUF). He used it once and so he should be able to reproduce it. Maybe he will use that as a last resort if anything else fails but if he uses it the opponent is most likely dead meat.

Then why is it you doubt Kun's ability to reuse his amulet blasts?

Because we never see him use it again? Because he couldn't control?

Neither did Luke reutilize the same ability, for the purpose of VS fights, any ability shown to be previously used by the user should be allowed, and just with Luke Bom has logically said it is likely that the Emerald Lightning proves as dangerously draining as the the Amulet Blasts going out of control, meaning that both Kun and Luke will be likely to use them as a last resort.

There is a chance that his amulet feeds off of the power of Yavin 4.

Read to Comics Numan, it says with each Force Rage the amulet amplifies it and fires it, meaning its Kun's own raw power focused into the force.

The two are kinda hard to compare because you have a blast from an object versus Luke's own invented force attack. Where does it state that it drained Luke? I thought the only thing that did that beyond anything was when Luke created illusions.

Originally posted by w00t2112
Read to Comics Numan, it says with each Force Rage the amulet amplifies it and fires it, meaning its Kun's own raw power focused into the force.

Yes but he could be using the power of Yavin 4 to channel it.

Originally posted by w00t2112
Then why is it you doubt Kun's ability to reuse his amulet blasts?

It is implied that the attack is very dangerous to Kun himself, while Luke's attack has no such implications.

Originally posted by zod360
Yes but he could be using the power of Yavin 4 to channel it.

No, no he couldn't...

You are once again speculating without prove, the amulet was created on Korriban before Sadow even knew about Yavin...

Originally posted by w00t2112
Then why is it you doubt Kun's ability to reuse his amulet blasts?

Because Kun's attack is potentially as dangerous to to himself as it is to an enemy; what would happen if he lost control of it? He could vaporize himself, destroy the ground beneath his feet, bring a building down onto his head, etc. Luke's attack has no such implications.

And I highly doubt that the Jedi Master's attack is taxing for either his physical condition or his reserves in the Force. Even after using the attack, he managed to bring down three or four more slayers, keep his footing and ''fiercely'' engage another crafty Vong elite while the dovin basal tossed everyone else around like ragdolls, and defeat the greatest warrior of the Yuuzhan Vong race; Supreme Overlord Shimrra himself. Exar, on the other hand, noted that his hand was burned, and that he nearly lost control of the blasts.

[QUOTE=6197183]Originally posted by Fishy
No, no he couldn't...

You are once again speculating without prove, the amulet was created on Korriban before Sadow even knew about Yavin... [/QUOTE

Well it is just a theory so calm down. It's based on the fact that he never used the ability outside Yavin 4 and it was full of dark side energy.

Originally posted by zod360
[QUOTE=6197183]Originally posted by Fishy
[B]No, no he couldn't...

You are once again speculating without prove, the amulet was created on Korriban before Sadow even knew about Yavin... [/QUOTE

Well it is just a theory so calm down. It's based on the fact that he never used the ability outside Yavin 4 and it was full of dark side energy. [/B]

But completely ignoring that the amulet was created in another place that had nothing to do with Yavin, and Kun just never uses it again, no matter where he is, even if its a place filled with the Dark Side.