Murderer of two sex offenders sentenced to 44 years

Originally posted by meep-meep
Would you want this man near your child?

If I am present, I wouldn't care. I wouldn't leave my kid with anyone I didn't know and trust undoubtedly though.

Originally posted by meep-meep
Get used to it.

Quite good at missing points aren't you? The point was that regardless of whether you grasp it or not, it's possible and it happens.

Originally posted by meep-meep
People who find actual rape arousing should be treated the same a pedophile.

Are you capable of replying to things in the same context that they were wrote? Or not?

Originally posted by meep-meep
😐

Please don't talk to me like your child.

You have an inability to grasp points and to discuss in context. So I shall treat you as someone with said inabilities. You said you can't grasp how a paedophile can have urges and not act on them, I said that this is exactly why you don't get it. Because whether you grasp it or not, it happens.

Originally posted by meep-meep
I was giving you something to compare it to...it can be used in this issue.

Can't, can it? Not in the context I said it. Because it's completely different. Please try to remain in context.

Originally posted by meep-meep
Think about it. If someone told you you could think about having the right to vote but you could never have that privilege, would you be offended? Would you think it to be fair?

This has nothing to do with anything. It's not a definite conclusion or eventuality that paedophiles who have the urges and interest will then act on them. Possible, but not definite.

Originally posted by meep-meep
Why give them false hope they can entertain this possibility? Do you see my point?

So now we're telling people what they can and can't THINK even if they hold no intention to act on it? Don't be so ridiculous.

Originally posted by meep-meep
You're making light of pedophilia isn't the nicest thing ever, either.

No, I'm not. You're just desperate. Forgive me for not kneejerking into hysteria at the mere mention of the crime.

Originally posted by meep-meep
You never said it's ok to think about it? I understand that you never said it verbatim but you imply when you say it's ok for a pedophile to think about having sex with or molesting children so long as they don't act on it. I'm only engaging in this topic further.

No, you're putting the cart before the horse and you're making wrong assumptions, champ. I never said such things. I never possessed the belief that it was ok to think about it. I merely said that we can't STOP people thinking about it, and if thinking is ALL they ever plan to do, we should concentrate on those who are ready, willing and able to ACT. Not those merely thinking with no intention to follow it up.

Stop diving in head first, it gets you nowhere.

Originally posted by meep-meep
I've thought about killing somebody once that I can remember when a thug robbed my parents house when we were all sleeping there. I toyed with the idea but it passed, after I rationalized my emotions. It's sort of natural for people to react this way when they themselves feel in danger. This kind of murder is in no way associated with getting perverse joy through engaging in sex with or using force against some one who is defenseless. That's not to say some murder isn't like this, though. Murder that is unprovoked and homocidal in nature, like this case in particular, should be treated the same as pedophilia or rape.

Let's review what I said:

Does genuinely thinking about murder mean that we will inevitably become murderers? No. The same is said for paedophilia.

Originally posted by meep-meep
I admit, my gut reaction toward this topic at the begining was that the murder was somewhat justified, but my perceptions have changed along the way thanks to many of the people providing points. The murder wasn't justified and Mullen should be treated as though he killed 2 innocent people, which he did. Although again I stick to my opinion that I really don't care that 2 pedophiles are dead and one murderer is behind bars.

Been there, discussed that.

Originally posted by meep-meep
Do you fantasize about murdering people? I don't. I think Mullen probably fantasized about killing pedophiles though. It was premediated. He had a fantasy and acted on it. Do you understand?

If Mullen walked around thinking "I'd LOVE to kill people" but never did, and never intended to. How much of an immediate danger is he? None.

Originally posted by meep-meep
I admit it that people do have strong initial emotional reactions when this subject is brought up, just like people feel toward murder.

The reaction to murder is never as bad, despite it being a worse crime.

Originally posted by meep-meep
Pedophilia isn't a "barracuda" AC.

You're on my christmas list. I'll be mailing you the "How to interpret analogies 101" book.

The point being that despite both being dangerous, one word sets off a bigger reaction than another word. If you yelled "Barracuda!" at the beach, people would say "What?". If you yelled "Shark!" people would pile out of the water like olympic sprinters.

You say "Murder!" people go "Bad." You say "Paedophilia!" and everyone lights their torches and forms a lynch mob.

-AC

Hey!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...........these posts are long.......................Can't anyone talk to me???????

OTF, Debbie. Please.

-AC

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh..................??

I know how you love me.................

Am I craping your style by appearing?.................Don't worry, I'll leave...though I do have to say that I've changed my view reading this thead............not cause of you AC, but because a "Choice"....Something that would not be placed upon us all................hm
Don't swell your head too much...........

A 22 year old man from somewhere around Rotterdam took revenge on a pedophile that misused him 14 years ago.
He stabbed the man in his house around half past six yesterday evening.

I don't know the facts but I thought this would fit in here 😬

AC I've reasoned you are always right. If you don't want to open be open to other perceptions and realities that's your'e choice. Just like it's a pedophiles right to enjoy fantazing about children.

You use analogues but I cannot use comparisons. I never ridiculed your understanding of the topic at hand. You have mine.

I've been respectful to you through out, I even asked you to not talk to me like a child with out being disrepectful to you, but you insist I am a child, or some one who has no concept of what we are discussing.

Good try at catching me off guard with the insult but I think I'll manage the rest of my life as soon as I stop crying inside.

It's starting to seem you get off on disrespecting me. I've been on topic. I've added my perspective. That's not good enough for you though. I have to conform to your reasoning for my argument to be respected. I've had enough.

Originally posted by debbiejo
Hey!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...........these posts are long.......................Can't anyone talk to me???????

💃 Let's dance. I'm getting nowhere talking. 💃

Originally posted by meep-meep
AC I've reasoned you are always right. :.

Originally posted by debbiejo
lol: hahahahahaha................Way would you think so when all he talks about his his own theories on things and hiding behind descriptions of laws and such..........?

Debbiejo,....just...be quiet. No point really, you ARE what the OTF is made of. Just go there and leave us alone, please.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Debbiejo,....just...be quiet. No point really, you ARE what the OTF is made of. Just go there and leave us alone, please.

Originally posted by meep-meep
AC I've reasoned you are always right. If you don't want to open be open to other perceptions and realities that's your'e choice. Just like it's a pedophiles right to enjoy fantazing about children.

Oh boo hoo. So cliche and typical of someone running out of things to say.

"AC, you're always right." I'd be rich if I'd earnt money everytime I had read that. Despite me never typing, or thinking it.

You are now completely disregarding everything I've said in favour of overly silly melodrama. Disappointing. You don't understand my points, you find it hard to grasp simple concepts, these are your problems. Not mine.

Originally posted by meep-meep
You use analogues but I cannot use comparisons. I never ridiculed your understanding of the topic at hand. You have mine.

Use what you want, you're not replying to me in context half the time.

You have no understanding of what I'm saying, despite me explaining it. Proof of this is the first quote in this reply. The quote in which you completely (and I dare say purposefully) misinterpret my points just because you don't like what I'm saying.

Originally posted by meep-meep
I've been respectful to you through out, I even asked you to not talk to me like a child with out being disrepectful to you, but you insist I am a child, or some one who has no concept of what we are discussing.

I insist you are a child? You're certainly acting like one now, making up things on the spot that are factually not true.

You fail to understand concepts and points so I treat you like someone who...fails to understand concepts and points. You don't deserve respect when you conduct yourself in a way that involves fabricating due to dislike, inability to stay in context etc.

Originally posted by meep-meep
Good try at catching me off guard with the insult but I think I'll manage the rest of my life as soon as I stop crying inside.

Take it how you want it.

Originally posted by meep-meep
It's starting to seem you get off on disrespecting me. I've been on topic. I've added my perspective. That's not good enough for you though. I have to conform to your reasoning for my argument to be respected. I've had enough.

*Plays violin*

I have no problem with your argument, the fact that you purposefully misinterpret me to make yourself look good and can't remain in context is something that I do find to be a tad annoying though, yes.

-AC

Sorry there, but I was thinking about the abortion thread................hahaha.............wrong posts.

So what?.........Like I'm the first.

Originally posted by GCG
Quality over Quantity.

So what do we do with the ones that dont meet requirements ?

What requirements?

Requirements to live in or be beneficial to; society.

I'd imagine that's what he meant.

-AC

I don't see how that relates to what he was responding to.

It seems he was asking that if you choose quality over quantity, what do you do with those who don't meet your quality.

-AC

That's not even in context to the way I used the word "quality". I simply meant that killing 1 good person is worse than killing 2 bad people.

Originally posted by BackFire
That's not even in context to the way I used the word "quality". I simply meant that killing 1 good person is worse than killing 2 bad people.

^Tru dat.

Martin Luther King or Ted Bundy and Jeffery Dahmer......gee that's tough. 🙄

That much is obvious.

If someone quickly said to you "I have to kill two people or one person" and you had no clue who these people were, or any time to decide, you would undoubtedly say two.

Murder is worse than paedophilia, so therefore, committing a double murder is worse than committing paedophilia once. If you had to have one child fondled or two people dead, any logical and rational person would say the first. Killing it worse than inappropriate touching.

Ok, so the loss could have been worse. In this case it's two paedophiles, I won't complain that they are gone. It doesn't change the fact that this man became greater "scum" than the "scum" he wanted to punish.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
That much is obvious.

If someone quickly said to you "I have to kill two people or one person" and you had no clue who these people were, or any time to decide, you would undoubtedly say two.

Murder is worse than paedophilia, so therefore, committing a double murder is worse than committing paedophilia once. If you had to have one child fondled or two people dead, any logical and rational person would say the first. Killing it worse than inappropriate touching.

Ok, so the loss could have been worse. In this case it's two paedophiles, I won't complain that they are gone. It doesn't change the fact that this man became greater "scum" than the "scum" he wanted to punish.

-AC

I don'T think that you judge people right here. Many people see paedophilia as much more evil than killing...although it is strange.