* Christians base their faith on Christ's teachings, and Christ taught Christians not to kill... Christ even taught them to love their enemies...
* Catholics base their faith on what the pope in Rome says... if the Catholic Church declared and ordered its members to kill, surely it is against the teachings of Christ...
* Catholicism and Christianity are really two DIFFERENT things...
Originally posted by Alliance
No. Catholics base thier teachings on those of Jesus. The Pope is the supreme interpreter of those teachings. If Jesus ordered people to kill, all CHristians would shurely do so. Your interpretations are no superior to the Pope's.
No they wouldn't, because Christ would never order people to kill others.
I find that the Catholic church has some very large doctrinal differences to what Jesus originally taught. To say that the Pope is infallible is just one of their many problems.
Originally posted by Echuu
No they wouldn't, because Christ would never order people to kill others.I find that the Catholic church has some very large doctrinal differences to what Jesus originally taught. To say that the Pope is infallible is just one of their many problems.
From my point of view, there is a lot more similarities between Protestants and Catholics. Mormons are Christians and so are Catholics.
Originally posted by Echuu
No they wouldn't, because Christ would never order people to kill others.I find that the Catholic church has some very large doctrinal differences to what Jesus originally taught. To say that the Pope is infallible is just one of their many problems.
Your first statement is circular reasoning.
Second, all forms of Christianity have very large doctrinal differences from what Jesus taught. The Bible has been edited for centuries by man, even if you believe that it was originally written by or through God. It is harldly the teachings of Christ. Second, to think that there is only one interpretation of an entire book is utterly rediculous. I've never even read a work of nonfiction that someone hasn't disagreed with my interpretation, let alone fiction. Their methods are just as valid as yours and you are all Christians.
Originally posted by Alliance
No. Catholics base thier teachings on those of Jesus. The Pope is the supreme interpreter of those teachings. If Jesus ordered people to kill, all CHristians would shurely do so. Your interpretations are no superior to the Pope's.
* it's just your bad, Christ never ordered his disciples to kill... his teaching is to love thy enemies... you got twisted ideas... as i was saying, if the Catholics are basing their faith on Christ, they should have not ordered people to kill, because that is against the teachings of Christ...
"But I say unto you, Love your enemies , bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;"
Matthew 5:44
* any normal human being can understand this: "love your enemies"...
"Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill ; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment:
But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment : and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire."
Matthew 5:21-22
* if Catholics based their teachings here, they will not order people to kill... and since they do not base their faith on Christ's teachings, Catholics really are not Christians... is that hard to swallow? 😕
* if a pope ordered someone to kill, and i have read in the Bible that killing people is not in accordance with the teachings of Christ... well, i surely consider my interpretation superior to the pope's... 😉
Um...hello.
1. I never said Jesus ordered his diciples to kill. I said,
Originally posted by Alliance
If Jesus ordered people to kill, all Christians would shurely do so.
Note the if. Since you do everything Jesus "told" you, if Jesus told you to kill and it was written so, you would.
Is it so hard to swallow that all sects of CHirstianity have murdered in the name of thier faith, including Protestants, especially with "witches," homosexuals, and etc. If you knew as much history as you do about the bible you would know this.
You are not different from the Pope in that you think your interpretation of the bible is correct and you follow it. If the Pope is ordained by God, he is the living extension of the Bible and the only authority ordained to interpreted. The Pope is God's interpreter and the greatest spiritual presence on Earth. He is God's chosen one to show Catholics how to best serve thier lord Jesus Christ. The Pope is the Holy extension of Jesus Christ and God, he teaches His words. Catholics are Christians.
Originally posted by peejayd
* Christians base their faith on Christ's teachings, and Christ taught Christians not to kill... Christ even taught them to love their enemies...* Catholics base their faith on what the pope in Rome says... if the Catholic Church declared and ordered its members to kill, surely it is against the teachings of Christ...
* Catholicism and Christianity are really two DIFFERENT things...
Originally posted by EchuuWell if you believe the Father and Jesus are ONE, then YES he did order people killed in the OT quite frequently.
No they wouldn't, because Christ would never order people to kill others.I find that the Catholic church has some very large doctrinal differences to what Jesus originally taught. To say that the Pope is infallible is just one of their many problems.
Originally posted by Alliance
Your first statement is circular reasoning.Second, all forms of Christianity have very large doctrinal differences from what Jesus taught. The Bible has been edited for centuries by man, even if you believe that it was originally written by or through God. It is harldly the teachings of Christ. Second, to think that there is only one interpretation of an entire book is utterly rediculous. I've never even read a work of nonfiction that someone hasn't disagreed with my interpretation, let alone fiction. Their methods are just as valid as yours and you are all Christians.
Does it make what I said any less true?
I have no problem with different interpretation. I interpret things differently than others. I just have some problems with certain Catholic doctrine.
Originally posted by Echuu
Does it make what I said any less true?I have no problem with different interpretation. I interpret things differently than others. I just have some problems with certain Catholic docrtine.
That is a different issue. Having problems with certain Catholic doctrines is quit different from casting out all Catholics from the religion of Christianity.