Vodo-Siosk Bass vs. OT Darth Vader

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Vodo-Siosk Bass vs. OT Darth Vader

Can Vodo dispatch or will Vader triumph over the ancient grandmaster?

Vodo wins.

wow and such a convincing argument.

Indeed. Heed my words.

I would have to say Vodo. He was possibly the Grand Master of the Jedi Order of his time (not proven, but possible) and was quite a significant swordsman despite his age, like Yoda. Vader most likely cannot match him.

I say Vader until proved otherwise. What has Vodo shown us using the force (I'm a bit rusty on most of my comics)?

He beat down Exar Kun with a stick before the boy was a Sith Lord, and even said that Kun was his most promising student, or something to that effect.

Crippled old Vader wouldn't win.

If you read the Crimson Empire you may change your mind about Vader's saber skills.

Vodo's big issue is his major lack of being able to make a dent on Vader with his staff...with his 'hands', could he even wield a saber? Vader's a damn strong guy, too.

And Vodo was most certainly not the grandmaster...grandmasters tend to be leading orders, not hanging out with three trainees on backwater worlds. It's unknown if there even was a grandmaster in those times.

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Vodo's big issue is his major lack of being able to make a dent on Vader with his staff...with his 'hands', could he even wield a saber?

The narration says Vodo's staff is "stronger than a lightsaber". He was also able to take Exar Kun out with relative ease, showing he knows how to put that staff to the test. And really, all he needs to do is cut Vader off from the force or hit him on his chestplate and it's KO.

Vader's a damn strong guy, too.

Yes, but limited in movement and certainly not superior in duelling knowledge to Vodo.


And Vodo was most certainly not the grandmaster...grandmasters tend to be leading orders, not hanging out with three trainees on backwater worlds. It's unknown if there even was a grandmaster in those times.

Vodo was quite influential, and while it's likely that someone older like Odan Urr was the head of the jedi order, it was Vodo who really called the shots. Vodo who confronted Kun. Vodo who was a visible figure. He was very likely the de facto leader of the order.

Well... 40 years later they had a formal Council, a formal leader (Vrook), so MAYBE they had a Grandmaster.

Vodo was a unorthodox Jedi. I guess me prematurely calling him the Grandmaster of the Order may be due to my impression of the guy.

He took Kun out when Kun was his padawan and that wasn't what I'd call a final defeat...that's a LONG time before Kun surrenders to the dark side. Vodo's wall of light technique could also take some time...which could be invariably fatal if he pauses in the fight. Even if Vodo's staff was stronger than the saber, it still broke...the weapon does not a fight make. And would Vodo even know what the buttons on Vader's chest plate mean?

Oh, Vader's also pretty dang fast, and his dueling knowledge is nothing to scoff at. He became a Djem So specialist, the finest Dooku'd ever seen to quote an EU source. And he was quite the fighter. What're Vodo's duelist credentials, though? We also saw Torr Snappit, in Jedi vs. Sith empower his staff and we saw Vodo fight only a couple of times.

When was it even hinted Vodo called the shots? Odan was described as the spokesman for the Order, but nothing more than that. Vodo confronted Kun because he knew Kun and knew Kun was the mastermind, it was nothing to do with leading the Order, Vodo said himself, only he knew and only he could confront Kun as he once taught him...they had a connection. I don't recall Vodo calling many shots either...you could argue his silence got a lot of people killed, too. He's never even hinted to be a leader of the Order

Vader was actually quite an accomplished duelist himself.

Yeah, Vader wasn't just some old cripple. He was powerful as all hell.

Vodo defeated little Exar, Vader... ummm... http://www.swcomics.com/Empire_Era_c.php?i=13&f=36&s=go&name=Purge

Little Exar? Exar who was the "most formidable student (Vodo) ever had?"

Sorry. Vader overcoming the Jedi of his time doesn't mean he outclasses Vodo. Vodo will likely strip him of the Force and lay the beatdown with his staff shortly after.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f86/t392447.html

Yes, little Exar, because any student in no way compares to the DlotS Exar becomes. And once again, Vodo'd need to perform that attack first.

Oh, so we're going to completely disregard the fact that even as an apprentice he was the most formidable student that Vodo has ever had? Good job. Can I borrow those blinders next time I'm stuck in a corner?


Yeah Lightsnake. Because that attack takes oh so much time.

Vader gets WTFpwned.

Actually how can you even tell how long it takes?

Mostly because Odan-Urr "immediately" knows he's in the presence of a threat and lashes out with the attack. It's close to instant.

Why didn't you show scans of that instead of Vodo?