Originally posted by Blue nocturne
here's hayabusa teleporting in battle watch the whole thing
http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=8819&type=wmv&pl=game
Mmmm... I watched the whole thing. Didn't see him teleporting. Oh well, I'll rewatch just in case i missed it.
Originally posted by Sam Z
You asked me for proofs about distance attacks and I did proved it in case of Ogre and Devil Jin and you also asked for proofs that Yoshi is as fast as Ryu and again, i gave you proofs. If you were not dumb you would've realised long ago (and I mentioned this before) that neither Raven nor Yoshi have ki manipulation as good as Ryu's. I give proofs but you keep whining like a baby that you want more, sorry baby but now it is your turn to prove your words.
You already did for me idiot If you were not dumb you would've realised long ago (and I mentioned this before) that neither Raven nor Yoshi have ki manipulation as good as Ryu's That's what I've been waiting for. My argument for the last time SAM Z is that ryu combined with ki manipulation can win, you said that it won't help because their a characters in tekken that have teleportation and ki manipulation on par with ryu and they still haven't won the iron fist tournament primarily yoshi and raven yet know they don't have ki manipulation on par with ryu what an idiot you are. again ryu has super speed, teleportation like raven, ki blast on par with jin and ogre. at full power he can beat the tekken cast.
Originally posted by Sam Zright all those characters sum up to ryu he basically has all their abilities and at full power could take them.
And the stupidest thing about your post is that you realy think that teleportation + projectiles = 100% win. It all doesn't matter when we have one character with such powers vs three characters with teleportation + 7 characters with distance attacks + 15 more with strength that equels to Ryu's. .
Originally posted by Sam Z
You are running of question now.
I asked you to give proofs that Ryu's projectiles could destry something more impressive than aircrafts (coz that is not much more impressive than two helicvopters, especially since it took him half of minute to deal with them). So now, prove that he has. And when you say "stronger" i assume you mean brute strength. So now prove he is physically stronger..
Sam z it doesn't matter what I post it will never impress you, if you think I'm just gonna post for your amusement your outta of your mind first jann lee knocking out a T-rex is not impressive nad now hayabusa destroying an aircraft with ki blast isn't impressive. but when ogre uses his flame breath to light 2 choppers that look like the came from mash on fire and they collide with each other it's impressive your a joke but here is another unimpressive feat.
Originally posted by Sam Z
First of all moron, Ogre can teleport...
No he can't when he was destroyed that wasn't teleportation stop using devil within you have no proof it's canon.
Originally posted by Sam Z
Second, you like not to pay attention to my questions and instead ask me to give answeres for yours (which i already did)
I will ask once again. How does teleportation combined with ki will gonna help him to defeat over 20 characters among which there are people with same speed (i proved that)...
No you didn't yoshimitsu running from bryans gattling gun whike in stealth mode is not proving nothing show him running so fast he vanishes and you'll have a point.
Originally posted by Sam Z
people with teleportation (i proved that too) and people with distance attacks (guess what, i proved that too)??? Try to remember next time not to ignore questions I've been asking you for many pages.
I said people with teleportation combined with ki blast on par with ryu and who do you have that can do that?.
bottomline is ryu at full power (True dragon blade, items from ninja gaiden can whoop tekken) with a talsiman of rebirth he could never die, smoke bombs would make him hard to hit incendary shurikens (once your hit you blow up) etc..he would win.
And your asked for attack that is on pair. Sorry but bringing down whole tower is not less impressive than destroying one aircraft.
Originally posted by Sam ZYour "argument" that you repeated was whining for proofs even though i gave you them several times. It's not that me lazy, it's you who is so stupid that can't read entire posts from beginning to the end and I'm not gonna wast my time because of your stupidity. .
And you can't read for your life I said who has Teleportation combined with ki blast on par with ryu?
Originally posted by Sam Z
Your brains a joke. Destroing two military helicopters with one breath isn't a feat but destroying three aircrafts within a minute is a feat 🙄
And knocking out a 13 mitteres tall lizard for game characters that could break walls with their heads is NOT an impressive feat. Sorry for upsetting you..
And your a Dumbass, Those were not assualt helicopters they weren't even armed big whoop and K.O a T rex is a feat your just being a dumb fanboy.
Originally posted by Sam Z
I'm just doing it your way. All you do is asking for proofs instead of givving them yourself.
I'm just curios, so prove...
And I gave you videos of hayabusa destroying aircraft, ayane destroying a skyscrapper and hayate destroying a blimp I even gave you a list so wtf are whining about.
Originally posted by Sam Z
Even listed feats! You are the man lol
I've been givving you feat, reasons, proofs for 14 pages and you still could not back up your main point that Ryu would defeat them all....
What's the point when your heads up your ass?
Originally posted by Sam Z
Actually what i said was huge text that tells Paul's story and about Kuma, that was like ten pages ago and best you could come up with was "lame excuses" Hell, do you actually read my posts?.
All you said was that he was smarter than your average bear I'll quote you later.
Originally posted by Sam Z
Try again moron, we see his hand glowing and Hwoarang hitting an invisible wall.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHnOp4Xuyz8&search=hwoarang%20ending
And again you are trying to change subject.
Have you saw anything moving to heihachi when Kazuya used his power?
No. Does Jin's powers are simillar to Kazuya's? Yes.
So cut the crap, moron.?.
I saw a wave heading towards hworang but your too bliind as always to see.
Originally posted by Sam Z
If I can't tell the differance means my English is far from top and that's a usuall thing for someone who only learn it. And if you are pathetic enough to point me at that and if that is your only argument to prove me wrong then you are even MORE pathetic than I thought you are.
That was your arguement I was critsizing you dumbass. first you said focus now its looked you can't get your own argument straight.
Yeah 😆 I see this fight happening. Kazuya is flying. Ryu is teleporting from one place to another without stopping. And all other 20 characters are standing and watching. That's your problem, when you think of the fight you assume all except Ryu will gonna just watch him.
Ryu teleportation is fast but when he uses his projectiles as we saw in the video it takes him over a second to use it. More then enough time for Kazuya to focus on him. And all your theory that focusing is much more a big deal than just looking is stupid. It takes many times less than second to focus on something after you looked at it. For you idiot to understand I'll say it easier. Try for example to focus on some letter on your keyboard, may be you will understand this way...
Originally posted by Sam Z
Point me please in Heihachi video where it moves at him. tk actually is ability to move objects at a distance. It's not that some invisible force from your eyes moves and grabs the object. You just focus and it moves. And dodging it is same as dodging eyes.
Wrong again you said jin and kazuya are similar so look at hworangs Tekken 5 ending when he does the tk you see a wave idiot.
Originally posted by Sam Z
First of all, Kazuya had tie with Paul on first king of iron fist tournament, that is almost 25 years before Paul was defeated by Kuma.
Second, this is not about brute strength. Oh and believe me if Hulk wasn't dumb and had tk he would've hit Nightcrawler with it without efforts.Yeah, keep pointing me that i don't know english very good, afterall it was your best point for entire thread...
No I'm pointing out your an idiot for showing a video of jin proving me right and claiming a t rex being k.o.ed is nothin your dumb.
Originally posted by Sam Z
So you was comparing to Ryu? Even better, again. Show me his projectile destroying anything more impressive than an aircraft.
I'm comparing it to brian...
Originally posted by Sam Z
😂 I've been waiting for you to say this, now you slowly trying to drag it into all vs all. I don't mind, that was my point in the first place. But the thing is that YOU started that bullcrap that he alone can beat them easilly, so now I just wanna hear explanation from you that you couldn't give. See, this is all about fanboyism. If you say something you should be ready to explain that and if you just say "he pwns them" and then only mention his powers instead of explaining how, guess what does it mean....
Because at full power he can.
Originally posted by Sam Z
😆 😆 👆
So now you don't have to. I brought dozens of proofs but when i said that Paul was never an objective of my discussion and Kazuya was you called me fanboy. And now you "don't have to" 😆
You know, you don't have to visit this forum too but if you do, try atleast to go by it's rules.....
You still haven't posted a character with teleportation and ki blast on par with ryu moron.
Originally posted by Sam Z
Big deal, Raven vanishes without teleportation too and that is one of his common moves during the game that based on his speed.
But it's not that important anyway. Yoshi can get invisible, fly, he is that fast, can teleport, has katana during everyfight in the tournament but still didn't won not a one tekken. You assume that Kazuya wont be able to focus on Ryu's moves with tk even though he was beating characters with same abilities even without tk. So assuming he won't be able to hit him with tk is jsut lame......
And when did kazuya fight yoshi or raven??? 😕
Originally posted by Sam Z
Try to give your own reasons and exlanation. I don't need your link to look at Ryu's moves. Hell, atleast pretend you use some efforts to debate.......
I did the link just gives his moves moron.
Originally posted by Sam Z
Oh sorry, how noble of you. If you gave them all their weapons (like sputnic that can destroy half of australia) it would not be fighting but world war. So there is nothing for you to be proud about..........
And vigor and tengu could destroy the planet instantley and they weren't a threat to ryu.
Originally posted by Sam Z
Sorry but it does matter. In your scenario you almost lead tekken characters to lose and in case of well written scenario Ryu would get hit and beaten to death even if he uses all his powers at his beast.
Unless you can give a normal explanation of why it ain't gonna happen which you couldn't do...
He could easily speed blitz many characters ninpo them if they get close tleport to gain distance and cut them away.
Originally posted by Sam Z
So now you do admitt that I proved that Kazuya can stand against Ryu.
Based around tk or not it doesn't matter. You on other hand base yourself on Ryu's projectiles and teleportation. I on tk and laser attack, so why not?
That was the whole my point - to prove that Kazuya can stand and even win in this fight and i did it.
Your point was to prove that Ryu can beat them all at the same time. So you are wellcomed, do it.
At full power he could, the true dragon blade can cut through almost anything and he can just speed blitz most of the characters he would win.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=tX4JZp9hw1U&search=helena%20doa%204
Ryu doing a huge beam.
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
You already did for me idiot If you were not dumb you would've realised long ago (and I mentioned this before) that neither Raven nor Yoshi have ki manipulation as good as Ryu's That's what I've been waiting for. My argument for the last time SAM Z is that ryu combined with ki manipulation can win, you said that it won't help because their a characters in tekken that have teleportation and ki manipulation on par with ryu and they still haven't won the iron fist tournament primarily yoshi and raven yet know they don't have ki manipulation on par with ryu what an idiot you are. again ryu has super speed, teleportation like raven, ki blast on par with jin and ogre. at full power he can beat the tekken cast.[/QOUTE]Oh my God 😆 you are incradibly stupid, first of all that thing you "have been waiting for" I said like 5 pages ago.
Do you know what makes me laugh?
You believe that if we have 5 guys with powerfull distance attack and 5 guys with teleportation they are not threat. But if we have one guy with these abilities COMBINED then it's a horrible threat lol
Well I've got news for you. 5 guys with distance attacks + 5 guys with teleportation is MUCH bigger threat than one guy with these abilities combined, so your point is as lame as usually.
Take one Yoshi that has superspeed, teleportation, flight and take anyone from tekken with distance attack and we will get same threat as Ryu and that is NOT EVEN CLOSE ENOUGH to take all tekken characters down.[QUOTE=6845882]Originally posted by Blue nocturne
Sam z it doesn't matter what I post it will never impress you, if you think I'm just gonna post for your amusement your outta of your mind first jann lee knocking out a T-rex is not impressive nad now hayabusa destroying an aircraft with ki blast isn't impressive. but when ogre uses his flame breath to light 2 choppers that look like the came from mash on fire and they collide with each other it's impressive your a joke but here is another unimpressive feat.
I don't want you to post anything for my amusment, i don't know may be when you asked me to post proofs you possibly wanted to see them for fun, but i just want you to prove your words.
And as for never impress same goes for you. I can post dozens videos. Of kazuya using tk, of Ogre taking down chopers, of Jin destroying entire forest by standing there and screaming, of bryan destroying military unit. You'll have only one answer - not impressive. Or may be something like "lame excuses". Debating with you is completly hopeless. You just keep saying ki + teleportation = all tekken dead and that is the biggest crap I've ever heard.
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
No he can't when he was destroyed that wasn't teleportation stop using devil within you have no proof it's canon.
First of all as far as i remember teleportation was one of his common attacks during gameplay in tekken 3 when he used flames.
Second, even if devil within is not canon (what is not likely) characters there has same abilities as during canon story mode so yes - he has teleportation.
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
No you didn't yoshimitsu running from bryans gattling gun whike in stealth mode is not proving nothing show him running so fast he vanishes and you'll have a point.
That's what I've been talking about.
First of all show me Ryu runs so fast that he vanishes and you'll have the point. And by your lame logic it means you finally admitted that Raven is as fast since he vanishes.
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
I said people with teleportation combined with ki blast on par with ryu and who do you have that can do that?.
What for? To make you happy? The whole point is "can Ryu defeat all of them?" and ki blast combined with teleportation doesn't mean a sh!t, it would if there were no characters in tekken who can't teleport or no characters with distance attacks but there are.
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
bottomline is ryu at full power (True dragon blade, items from ninja gaiden can whoop tekken) with a talsiman of rebirth he could never die, smoke bombs would make him hard to hit incendary shurikens (once your hit you blow up) etc..he would win.
It is not at full power, it is with full equipment but since we already agreed this is no weapons fight what you said makes no sense.
He can teleport and blast with ki as much as he like, the result would be the same.
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
And you can't read for your life I said who has Teleportation combined with ki blast on par with ryu?
BTW about reading. When you post, try quoting me carefully coz you usually make a lot of mess and mix our posts.
Originally posted by Blue nocturneAnd your a Dumbass, Those were not assualt helicopters they weren't even armed big whoop and K.O a T rex is a feat your just being a dumb fanboy.
Don't start that fanboy thing coz we both know that you are fanboy here even though you would never admitt it. Anyway - one breath - two helicopters down, one ki blas - one aircraft. Thats not a better feat.
And you yet didn't showed me koed t-rex proofs.
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
And I gave you videos of hayabusa destroying aircraft, ayane destroying a skyscrapper and hayate destroying a blimp I even gave you a list so wtf are whining about.
Whining is what you are good at, I aked for proof of certain thing, you didn't gave it.
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
What's the point when your heads up your ass?
You should've said - What's the point if fanboys never prove what they say.
I proved my point, now you prove your and don't try to change the subject.
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
All you said was that he was smarter than your average bear I'll quote you later.
Don't bother. I'll do it myself. I mentioned his strength, his intellect, his ability to talk. And there were like 10 lines about Paul.
But you prefere not to read that much...
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
I saw a wave heading towards hworang but your too bliind as always to see.
You are changing subject again, tell me. Were there waves when Kazuya hit Heihachi? Just answer the question.
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
That was your arguement I was critsizing you dumbass. first you said focus now its looked you can't get your own argument straight.
You are really stupid. I can get my argument straightly and I've been doing it for all this thread. I just didn't knew the differance between two words because i didn't knew translation. This is about knowing of foreign language, not about stupidity like in your case.
And again, tell me how much time does it takes you to focus on something? I don't know may be you are blind or you just can't think fast but usually it takes many times less than second to focus on something, so dodging it is still same as dodging eyes and Ryu can't do that, atleast you failed to prove that he can.
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
Wrong again you said jin and kazuya are similar so look at hworangs Tekken 5 ending when he does the tk you see a wave idiot.
And you said Ryu can dodge Kazuya's tk. So now look at his ending and tell me: are there waves? And how is Ryu going to dodge it?
Oh, and if you are going to argue that Devil Jin has different powers comparing to devil Kazuya then create a new thread about it coz that would be lots of fun since Jin's devil was a part of Kazuy'a.
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
No I'm pointing out your an idiot for showing a video of jin proving me right and claiming a t rex being k.o.ed is nothin your dumb.
Koing t-rex is nothing for someone who can destroy scyscrapers or entire forest and it obvious.
As for proving you right, tell me. Do you see waves in Kazuya's ending? You said Ryu can dodge these waves even though there are no waves at all. Seems you are getting dumber with every post.
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
I'm comparing it to brian...
You are comparing Yoshi to bryan? Well, he is much faster and that's not a big news... 😕
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
Because at full power he can.
Dare to give reasons, not just "he can" and that's all
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
You still haven't posted a character with teleportation and ki blast on par with ryu moron.
Sorry moron, but thats neddless since again - one character with such powers combined is much less threat than few characters with teleportation, superspeed, flight ability + few characters with distance attacks. So there is even no point for me to argue that since that doesn't prove your main argument about winning in fight with all.
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
And vigor and tengu could destroy the planet instantley and they weren't a threat to ryu.
With full equipment and blade, and you yet have to prove they can destroy the world. And the point of sputnic was not to show feat but to make you understand that adding weapons here is just dumb.
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
He could easily speed blitz many characters ninpo them if they get close tleport to gain distance and cut them away.
And that sounds as if these many characters were just walking there and watching him doing all that.
All this ain't doing him any good if after for each his projectile he'll eat 5 blasts from 5 different characters and if he tries to teleport at a distance there are always Yoshi and Raven to follow him and to hold him up for other characters to blast him again.
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
At full power he could, the true dragon blade can cut through almost anything and he can just speed blitz most of the characters he would win.
I think we already agreed that no weapons allowed.
But nice try. You already admitted that Kazuya can stand against Ryu and that's alreay a progress.
Now make another try to explain how is he gonna defeat them all but this time put more efforts in it. Coz this was another failed try.
Its funny that video did show Ryu teleporting. Have you ever played DOA 4 Sam Z? Doing Ryu's teleportation move is a breeze and yet you don't seem to even know about that. So how are you even debating in a thread between two games when its obvious you haven't played one of them as your apparent lack of knowledge of Ryu's teleportation powers shines through.
If Ryu got hit by Kazuya laser thingy I doubt it could actually kill him anyway.
Originally posted by Sam Z
I don't want you to post anything for my amusment, i don't know may be when you asked me to post proofs you possibly wanted to see them for fun, but i just want you to prove your words.
And as for never impress same goes for you. I can post dozens videos. Of kazuya using tk, of Ogre taking down chopers, of Jin destroying entire forest by standing there and screaming, of bryan destroying military unit. You'll have only one answer - not impressive. Or may be something like "lame excuses". Debating with you is completly hopeless. You just keep saying ki + teleportation = all tekken dead and that is the biggest crap I've ever heard.
Um I said brian destroying a tank was impressive, I never commented on jins feats and ogre destroying two unarmed helicopters is lame. you always say your going to post a dozen videos so go ahead just make sure their relevant to this argument.
Originally posted by Sam Z
First of all as far as i remember teleportation was one of his common attacks during gameplay in tekken 3 when he used flames.
Second, even if devil within is not canon (what is not likely) characters there has same abilities as during canon story mode so yes - he has teleportation.
Your gonna have to prove that he does have teleportation because I don't remember him having it and 'Devil Within" is not canon unless you PROVE otherwise.
Originally posted by Sam Z
That's what I've been talking about.
First of all show me Ryu runs so fast that he vanishes and you'll have the point. And by your lame logic it means you finally admitted that Raven is as fast since he vanishes.
Raven teleports he never dashes fast enough to vanish, nor can he speed blitz like hayabusa and I already gave you a link iberiawarrior.com remeber good luck navigating it. and yoshimitsu running from a Gatling gun proves that he can't compete with hayabusa who can deflect bullets from 2 torrents, hell firearms are useless against him.
Originally posted by Sam Z
What for? To make you happy? The whole point is "can Ryu defeat all of them?" and ki blast combined with teleportation doesn't mean a sh!t, it would if there were no characters in tekken who can't teleport or no characters with distance attacks but there are.
But no characters that have both, honestly I'm gonna quit using that teleportation Plus ki blast argument since you can't even name a character that has both abilities to pair with ryu. ryu at full power can speed blitz, use all range ninpo's uses his ki to create high powered winds to shield himself teleport and use the true dragon blade that can cut through almost anything and surpasses the dark dragon blade.
Originally posted by Sam Z
It is not at full power, it is with full equipment but since we already agreed this is no weapons fight what you said makes no sense.
He can teleport and blast with ki as much as he like, the result would be the same.
Based on what SAM Z your stupid TK argument which you can't even understand 😆
Originally posted by Sam Z
BTW about reading. When you post, try quoting me carefully coz you usually make a lot of mess and mix our posts.
I'll keep that in mind 😆 😆
Originally posted by Sam Z
Don't start that fanboy thing coz we both know that you are fanboy here even though you would never admitt it. Anyway - one breath - two helicopters down, one ki blas - one aircraft. Thats not a better feat.
And you yet didn't showed me koed t-rex proofs.
:Yeah 2 un armed helicopters what are thya gonna do Sam-Z Fly over him to death? they can't do jack to him at all, their no threat what so ever but some how it's a feat to you. I'm in more danger rearranging my sock draw than ogre was, man your a fanboy.
Originally posted by Sam Z
Whining is what you are good at, I aked for proof of certain thing, you didn't gave it. .
You mean the proof of teleportation that you asked for but you were too stupid to see it, what a joke I feel sorry for you so I'm not gonna rag on you.
Originally posted by Sam Z
You should've said - What's the point if fanboys never prove what they say.
I proved my point, now you prove your and don't try to change the subject.
I'm not changing the subject I've offered enough proof and you won't listen your so stuck on kazuya's argument saying garbage like "He just looks at you and it works" problem is if it was looking technique as soon as kazuya looked at someone it would work sort of like the evil eye from mythology. if the wielder looks at you than you would die so the wielder had to keep his eye shut maybe if kazuya had that I would agree problem is he doesn't have that. kazuya has telekinesis which has nothing to do with the eye's but your eye's. he can attack people with an invisible force problem is We have no way of proving how fast it is by a cutscene alone and were in a disagreement I say he can dodge it you say he can't problem is we have no way of proving it but hayabuisa has more options he can speedblitz,teleport,blast him with ki, create a whirlwind that would cut kazuya to pieces, uses his hands etc...that's around 5 options to kill kazuya plus he's demonstrated Way higher speeds than kazuya and you still can't prove teleportation is useless because kazuya has never been shown to fight a teleporter so your at a disadvantage in a 1 on 1 fight, combined the fact that hayabusa's speed blitz can attack a person from anywhere especially in the air and he doesn't have to touch the ground to continue it and that he has all range ninpo's I don't see kazuya winning so there an argument besides ki blast and teleportaiton. 😄
Originally posted by Sam Z
Don't bother. I'll do it myself. I mentioned his strength, his intellect, his ability to talk. And there were like 10 lines about Paul.
But you prefere not to read that much....
Originally posted by Sam Z
You are changing subject again, tell me. Were there waves when Kazuya hit Heihachi? Just answer the question.....
Originally posted by Sam Z
You are really stupid. I can get my argument straightly and I've been doing it for all this thread. I just didn't knew the differance between two words because i didn't knew translation. This is about knowing of foreign language, not about stupidity like in your case. .....
Then make sure you know better, this is ignorance in your part and you've been doing horrible, you haven't proved "Devil withins canon", "Paul can beat a majority of doa fighters 1 on 1",
Originally posted by Sam Z
And again, tell me how much time does it takes you to focus on something? I don't know may be you are blind or you just can't think fast but usually it takes many times less than second to focus on something, so dodging it is still same as dodging eyes and Ryu can't do that, atleast you failed to prove that he can. .....
And what does Tk have to do with you eye's last i checked it was telekinesis not "optic-kenesis"
Originally posted by Sam Z
And you said Ryu can dodge Kazuya's tk. So now look at his ending and tell me: are there waves? And how is Ryu going to dodge it?
Oh, and if you are going to argue that Devil Jin has different powers comparing to devil Kazuya then create a new thread about it coz that would be lots of fun since Jin's devil was a part of Kazuy'a......
Why would I argue devil jin has different powers, hworangs ending shows the waves when he raises his hand and uses the tk, and you said they have similar powers so take your own advice.
Originally posted by Sam Z
Koing t-rex is nothing for someone who can destroy scyscrapers or entire forest and it obvious.
As for proving you right, tell me. Do you see waves in Kazuya's ending? You said Ryu can dodge these waves even though there are no waves at all. Seems you are getting dumber with every post.
Ayane can destroy several skyscrappers at once and she's not even the strongest, I'm guessing that someone you were talking about was jin. he has feats on par with her and she's not even the strongest how sad, and about those waves you said your self jin has similar tk to kauya so explain why jin has them but kazuya doesn't?
Originally posted by Sam Z
You are comparing Yoshi to bryan? Well, he is much faster and that's not a big news... 😕
Ayane..when did yoshi destroy the tritowers? 😕
Originally posted by Sam Z
Dare to give reasons, not just "he can" and that's all
Well at full power he would have all his items including a tallis man of rebirth and potions he would never die.
Originally posted by Sam Z
Sorry moron, but thats neddless since again - one character with such powers combined is much less threat than few characters with teleportation, superspeed, flight ability + few characters with distance attacks. So there is even no point for me to argue that since that doesn't prove your main argument about winning in fight with all.
How would a character that has several characters abilities put together be less of a threat? 😕
Originally posted by Sam ZWith full equipment and blade, and you yet have to prove they can destroy the world. And the point of sputnic was not to show feat but to make you understand that adding weapons here is just dumb.
I already did when I listed tengu's feats and vigors, you know what you wanna play prove. prove yoshi and raven can teleport, prove that sputnik can destroy half of australia, prove paul defeated ogre come on since you like to ask people to prove everything now when they already did.
Originally posted by Sam Z
And that sounds as if these many characters were just walking there and watching him doing all that.
All this ain't doing him any good if after for each his projectile he'll eat 5 blasts from 5 different characters and if he tries to teleport at a distance there are always Yoshi and Raven to follow him and to hold him up for other characters to blast him again.
You think ki blast equals projectiles? he can amerce his entire body with electricity,fire heck he could freeze them with an ice storm if they get to close.
Originally posted by Sam Z
I think we already agreed that no weapons allowed.
But nice try. You already admitted that Kazuya can stand against Ryu and that's alreay a progress.
Now make another try to explain how is he gonna defeat them all but this time put more efforts in it. Coz this was another failed try.
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I admitted nothing seems that you can't read, you asked me to show ryu teleporting against kazuya's macthh since ryu's mostly teleports in doa and I don't know how strong kazuya is I asked you I never said "Kazuya is a match for ryu" try quoting me next time and it doesn't matter what scenerio I put I can always write one where ryu wins superboy prime told you that.
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
Um I said brian destroying a tank was impressive, I never commented on jins feats and ogre destroying two unarmed helicopters is lame. you always say your going to post a dozen videos so go ahead just make sure their relevant to this argument.
You said that destroying one military unit is not a big deal.
I always say? What i said was nomatter hom many videos i post you'll still say it's not impressive.
Or as you said you never commented on Jin's feats means you just ignored them, that's your problem.
Originally posted by Blue nocturneYour gonna have to prove that he does have teleportation because I don't remember him having it and 'Devil Within" is not canon unless you [B] PROVE
otherwise.
[/B]
I'll search for his moves list.
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
Raven teleports he never dashes fast enough to vanish, nor can he speed blitz like hayabusa and I already gave you a link iberiawarrior.com remeber good luck navigating it. and yoshimitsu running from a Gatling gun proves that he can't compete with hayabusa who can deflect bullets from 2 torrents, hell firearms are useless against him.
Originally posted by Blue nocturneI see you desided to stop using that lame ki + teleportation but desided to concentrate on his dragon blade. Full power or not, i think we agreed that no wepons.
But no characters that have both, honestly I'm gonna quit using that teleportation Plus ki blast argument since you can't even name a character that has both abilities to pair with ryu. ryu at full power can speed blitz, use all range ninpo's uses his ki to create high powered winds to shield himself teleport and use the true dragon blade that can cut through almost anything and surpasses the dark dragon blade.
Originally posted by Blue nocturneBased on simple logic and i already explained why.
Based on what SAM Z your stupid TK argument which you can't even understand 😆
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
:Yeah 2 un armed helicopters what are thya gonna do Sam-Z Fly over him to death? they can't do jack to him at all, their no threat what so ever but some how it's a feat to you. I'm in more danger rearranging my sock draw than ogre was, man your a fanboy.
lol you asked me to show you what can his distance attack do, i showed and it doesn't matter if these helicopters were a threat or not.
And the more you call me fanboy the more you embarrass yourself.
Unlike you Blue Nocturne i don't believe that one character can take over 20 and even if i said so I wouldn't base my self on his ki manipulation coz it even sound redicilous.
Originally posted by Blue nocturneI was talking about t-rex thing.
You mean the proof of teleportation that you asked for but you were too stupid to see it, what a joke I feel sorry for you so I'm not gonna rag on you.
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
I'm not changing the subject I've offered enough proof and you won't listen your so stuck on kazuya's argument saying garbage like [B]"He just looks at you and it works" problem is if it was looking technique as soon as kazuya looked at someone it would work sort of like the evil eye from mythology. if the wielder looks at you than you would die so the wielder had to keep his eye shut maybe if kazuya had that I would agree problem is he doesn't have that. [/B]
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
kazuya has telekinesis which has nothing to do with the eye's but your eye's. he can attack people with an invisible force problem is We have no way of proving how fast it is by a cutscene alone and were in a disagreement I say he can dodge it you say he can't problem is we have no way of proving it
Originally posted by Blue nocturneNow that's a good argument, but it is good for fight with Kazuya only. I see no point of debating with you about fight 1 on 1 if you still didn't admitted that believeing Ryu can beat all of them is stupid.
but hayabuisa has more options he can speedblitz,teleport,blast him with ki, create a whirlwind that would cut kazuya to pieces, uses his hands etc...that's around 5 options to kill kazuya plus he's demonstrated Way higher speeds than kazuya and you still can't prove teleportation is useless because kazuya has never been shown to fight a teleporter so your at a disadvantage in a 1 on 1 fight, combined the fact that hayabusa's speed blitz can attack a person from anywhere especially in the air and he doesn't have to touch the ground to continue it and that he has all range ninpo's I don't see kazuya winning so there an argument besides ki blast and teleportaiton. 😄
Originally posted by Blue nocturneWrong, I said their powers are similar because it used to be one devil, wanna argue that, good luck.They weren't in the cutscene but they were in jins and you said that their tk is similar, are you gonna eat your words.
Originally posted by Blue nocturneIgnorance? That's knowing of foreign language.
Then make sure you know better, this is ignorance in your part and you've been doing horrible, you haven't proved "Devil withins canon", "Paul can beat a majority of doa fighters 1 on 1",
Originally posted by Blue nocturneAgain, i said they have similar powers(means all powers).
Why would I argue devil jin has different powers, hworangs ending shows the waves when he raises his hand and uses the tk, and you said they have similar powers so take your own advice.
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
Ayane can destroy several skyscrappers at once and she's not even the strongest, I'm guessing that someone you were talking about was jin. he has feats on par with her and she's not even the strongest how sad, and about those waves you said your self jin has similar tk to kauya so explain why jin has them but kazuya doesn't?
The question is why Jin used such waves. (Ofcourse only if he did, coz i only see waves around his hand and nothing moving towards hwoarang)
Devil has many powers like when Jin destroyed forest he was just standing and screaming. Forget about Jin, we are talking about Kazuya now and that power he used in the scene was clear and obvious. But you prefere not to pay attention at it coz you can't counter it.
That Jin's feat is on pair with her??
She is not the strongest but the only thing Ryu destroyd with his big ki blast in the link was another aircraft. And destroying one scyscraper is not a better feat than destroing whole forest. And i only saw one scyscraper not several.
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
Ayane..when did yoshi destroy the tritowers? 😕
Oh Ayane, so you are comparing her to Yoshi? Why? 😕
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
How would a character that has several characters abilities put together be less of a threat? 😕
Not of several but of two characters.
How? Easilly. Numbers. What is a bigger threat, one character with superspeed, teleportation, distance attack or two characters with teleportation, superspeed + 5 characters with distance attack?
Originally posted by Blue nocturne😆 😆 I wanna play prove??? I actually doing that on purpose because for entire thread the only thing you've been doing is screaming "prove" and when i was givving them you was saying "not impressive" and that is very annoying and I only wanted you to feel how's that when somebody asks you for proves without givving them himself. I don't need proofs because unlike you i trust what people say. If you say Ryu can fly, ok i believe. When i say Yoshi is fast you say "prove". But what the hell, if it is SO important for you.I already did when I listed tengu's feats and vigors, you know what you wanna play prove. prove yoshi and raven can teleport, prove that sputnik can destroy half of australia, prove paul defeated ogre come on since you like to ask people to prove everything now when they already did.
Raven teleports in round two.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jzhQha85FE&search=Raven%20tekken
Same video of Brayn and Yoshi, i dunno how you missed that but he teleports there.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srLwUEz03Wk&search=Yoshimitsu%20tekken
That sputnic i was talking about. But my bad, tis dr. abel.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79_GiwlgfWY&search=Gun%20jack%20tekken
Originally posted by Blue nocturneDoes it have to be equel to hurt Ryu? I believe that laser blast wont be a joke even for him.
You think ki blast equals projectiles? he can amerce his entire body with electricity,fire heck he could freeze them with an ice storm if they get to close.
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
I admitted nothing seems that you can't read, you asked me to show ryu teleporting against kazuya's macthh since ryu's mostly teleports in doa and I don't know how strong kazuya is I asked you I never said "Kazuya is a match for ryu" try quoting me next time and it doesn't matter what scenerio I put I can always write one where ryu wins superboy prime told you that.
Originally posted by Zen2nd
Its funny that video did show Ryu teleporting. Have you ever played DOA 4 Sam Z? Doing Ryu's teleportation move is a breeze and yet you don't seem to even know about that. So how are you even debating in a thread between two games when its obvious you haven't played one of them as your apparent lack of knowledge of Ryu's teleportation powers shines through.If Ryu got hit by Kazuya laser thingy I doubt it could actually kill him anyway.
Funny, you are telling me about my lack of knowledge, but when Blue Nocturne says Ryu alone pwnes all tekken characters at the same time it is just fine? Seems that you just like DOA better and that's why you ignore things he says even though they are 100 times worse than what i say. I only believe Kazuya can win in 1 on 1 fight with Ryu and i gave reasons. Does it mean I'm a fanboy?
Originally posted by Sam Z
Funny, you are telling me about my lack of knowledge, but when Blue Nocturne says Ryu alone pwnes all tekken characters at the same time it is just fine? Seems that you just like DOA better and that's why you ignore things he says even though they are 100 times worse than what i say. I only believe Kazuya can win in 1 on 1 fight with Ryu and i gave reasons. Does it mean I'm a fanboy?
I didn't ignore anything. I just had to post as you can clearly see Ryu teleporting in the video yet you missed it?! Even with a video showing evidence of Ryu teleporting you missed it and I ask again can you really be debating the two games?
I'd also like to ask if you have played DOA 4 for more than 10 hours?
I frankly don't care if you are a fanboy, its no skin off my back.
Originally posted by Sam Z
You said that destroying one military unit is not a big deal.
I always say? What i said was nomatter hom many videos i post you'll still say it's not impressive.
Or as you said you never commented on Jin's feats means you just ignored them, that's your problem.
No, I said bryan's feat was impressive but compared to ayane it's not that big of a deal, why don't you quote me next time instead of lokking like a moron .And I know I didn't comment on jins feats I said that previously.
Originally posted by Sam Z
Raven's one move is circling through opponent. He just moves and like ghost gets through opponent to his back.
And how does Yoshi running faster than Brayan moves his gun proves that he can't compete with Ryu? 😕
Becuase ryu wouldn't have to run away at all he could just block all the bullets. and raven moving like a ghost is a big deal since hayabusa does that all the time during flying swallow,storm of the hheavenly dragons, dead soul bind.
Originally posted by Sam Z
I see you desided to stop using that lame ki + teleportation but desided to concentrate on his dragon blade. Full power or not, i think we agreed that no wepons.
I can't name a character because there is no character that has as good ki manipulation as Ryu and told you that many times but that's not the reason why you should stop using that argument. the reason is that this might be helpfull if he fights one on one with Kazuya or Jin for example.
But if there are over 20 character sorry it will NOT help.
Just imagine that he teleports and blasts, there are always like 5 characters to respone and two characters to teleport behind him and strike. Again, it may work if in 1 on 1 but this is stupid argument when we talk about 20 powerfull characters. You must be blind if you don't see that.Sam-Z if he teleports and reappears far away the only people that can pursue him are yoshi and raven (since they are the only ones with teleportation). Did you read about what I said about them getting close, How is raven and yoshi gonna get close to him if he can sheild himself with art of the icestorm ninpo. they would be frozen instantly and huge ice shards that would become hazardous to anyone else that tries to advance so explain sam z how yoshi and raven would get around that?
[QUOTE=6851806]Originally posted by Sam Z
[B]
Based on simple logic and i already explained why.
And my "stupid" argument makes sense and will help in fight with Ryu unlike your brilliant ki + teleportation, i don't care if you can't understand that.
And I just told you I'm not gonna use that anymore, and no it doesn't make sense, since you can't even get how it works correctly first he looks at you than he fouses than he looks again. again I ask you what does telekenesis have to do with your eye's???
Originally posted by Sam Z
lol you asked me to show you what can his distance attack do, i showed and it doesn't matter if these helicopters were a threat or not.
It matters when a fanboy like you thinks destroying 2 unarmed helicopters is more impressive than taking out 3 higly advanced, heavily armed, aircraft that out manevuer, out perform, and out gun a simply helicopter. but your right you proved ogre has distance attacks but my old argument was "Name anyone with distance attacks and teleportation on par with ryu" but whatever I'm done using that argument.
Originally posted by Sam Z
And the more you call me fanboy the more you embarrass yourself.
Unlike you Blue Nocturne i don't believe that one character can take over 20 and even if i said so I wouldn't base my self on his ki manipulation coz it even sound redicilous.
It doesn't matter what you think Sam-z, you have to prove that he can't which you have yet to do get over yourself. because you are a fanboy.
Originally posted by Sam Z
I was talking about t-rex thing.
I watched all links you gave me and i read all your posts from beginning to the end, and that's what you couldn't do, so feel sorry for yourself.
Originally posted by Sam Z
I already corrected myself like 3 pages ago, not looks but focuses. But you as usually pretend you haven't read that..
You didn't even know the difference between focusing and looking you said it yourself so how is it a correction?
Originally posted by Sam Z
We have way of proving that and that cutscene shows everything clearly.
There was no visible force and sinsce it hit Heihachi as soon as Kazuya focused on him it proves it didn't even moved towards him. I don't understand how you can see Ryu dodging it... ..
He doesn't have to dodge he can teleport and when he teleports he's gone thus evading the attack. your argument relies on one attack I have listed 4. that's a ratio of 4:1 ryu has a higher chance of winning. if teleportation is useless prove it show me someone trying to teleport from his tk and failing.
Originally posted by Sam Z
Now that's a good argument, but it is good for fight with Kazuya only. I see no point of debating with you about fight 1 on 1 if you still didn't admitted that believeing Ryu can beat all of them is stupid.
Do it or if you still believe he can then give reasonable explanation, than we may talk about 1 on 1...
Now your running away, sam z were discussing as you said kazuya vs ryu, ryu vs tekken. I already gave you an argument about ryu vs tekken on my previous post. but now that I have a different argument you miraclesly don't see a point in debating kazuya vs ryu anymore, I'm taking that as a forfeit for kazuya unless you debate me.
Originally posted by Sam Z
And since when teloprtation alone is concidered to be a way of killing?
Since hayabusa's teleportation is also an attack,had you actually reseached the character you were debating you would know that.
Originally posted by Sam Z
It leaves us only 4 ways. speed advantage? Again if such characters as Yoshi or raven were defeated by much weaker and slower fighters than Kazuya I don't see a reason why Kazuya can't deal with this problem.
I said Speed blitz, show me raven and yoshi doing one. oh yeah and hayabusa's can reach you in virtually any range especially the air.
Originally posted by Sam Z
That's leaves 3 ways. Blast with ki? I'll counter it with laser blast. Whirlwind? Doesn't matter how much you hate that tk argument it is still helpfull and threat and you still couldn't explain how is Ryu gonna dodge it..
A blast of ki, try several seprate blast of lighting attacking at once how can one laser beam beat at least four lightning bolts attacking different directions at one or a huge ball of fire, or freezing whirl wind throwing ice shards or a sheild of fire combine that with the fact hayabusa can do them and instanly teleport away while kazuya is dealing with an attack? the tk argument is the only one you have in kazuya's case so your desperate.
Originally posted by Sam Z
Wrong, I said their powers are similar because it used to be one devil, wanna argue that, good luck...
Why argue if they are similar they should have the same form of tk.
Originally posted by Sam Z
Ignorance? That's knowing of foreign language.
And as for doing horrible buddy, pay attention to your own posts.
"Ryu beats all at the same time", "koing trex is very impressive feat", "tk argument is stupid"(even though you can't argue it), "Sam Z never posts feats or proofs" (i've been doing it for entire thread). ...
Do you know how to quote like I just did right now because that's how you debate, and I don't care if you don't speak english well. you can't prove none of your points
1. devil within is canon despite the fact jins mother died in tekken 3 yet he's looking for her in devil within which you said takes place between 3 and 4
2.A telekensis which you can't even explain how it works, first he just looks at you now it's focusing, and again I ask you WTF does TK have to do with eye's ?
3. And you haven't explained why teleportation wouldn't work, the only thing you said was since none of the teleporters won an iron fist tournament it's useless. what a dumb argument from a dumb person explain how that would be a point if your not even sure yoshi fought kazuya and even if he did and won did he use his tk because he doesn't always use it ( against jin) and even if he did was it the reason yoshi lost.
Originally posted by Sam Z
Again, i said they have similar powers(means all powers).
What's your point here anyway? Are you trying to prove that Kazuya and Jin has differant powers? Or that Jin in that episode used some differant power on purpose? Even if so why does it matter in our discussion, it only brings us back to Kazuya's attack and the fact IS that there were NO visible waves and there was NOTHING moving to Heihachi, and it takes us to the main question you've been ignoring so long, how is Ryu gonna dodge such Kazuya's attack?
There was nothing moving towards heiachi yet there was something moving towards howrang so if they have all the same powers that means the cut scene didn't show the wave and that it's not really as invisble like you've been whining all the time. so explain why there tk is so different.
Originally posted by Sam Z
The question is why Jin used such waves. (Ofcourse only if he did, coz i only see waves around his hand and nothing moving towards hwoarang)
Devil has many powers like when Jin destroyed forest he was just standing and screaming. Forget about Jin, we are talking about Kazuya now and that power he used in the scene was clear and obvious. But you prefere not to pay attention at it coz you can't counter it.
That Jin's feat is on pair with her??
She is not the strongest but the only thing Ryu destroyd with his big ki blast in the link was another aircraft. And destroying one scyscraper is not a better feat than destroing whole forest. And i only saw one scyscraper not several.
-Wow your stupid, when jin raised his and and aimed at hworang,if a wave comes out of jins hands where else would it go?
-I said several skyscrappers not one
-what does it matter what hayabusa destroyed, the fact remains ayane's best feat is on par with jin who is possibly the strongest character in his universe and ayane is not
Originally posted by Sam Z
Oh Ayane, so you are comparing her to Yoshi? Why? 😕 .
I'm comparing her to brian not yoshi, I said it twice.
Originally posted by Sam Z
Not of several but of two characters.
How? Easilly. Numbers. What is a bigger threat, one character with superspeed, teleportation, distance attack or two characters with teleportation, superspeed + 5 characters with distance attack?.
1 character because he has all their strengths, he can pick them all of one by one and lessen their ability example if he kills raven and yoshi tekken no longer has teleportation.
Originally posted by Sam Z
😆 😆 I wanna play prove??? I actually doing that on purpose because for entire thread the only thing you've been doing is screaming "prove" and when i was givving them you was saying "not impressive" and that is very annoying and I only wanted you to feel how's that when somebody asks you for proves without givving them himself. I don't need proofs because unlike you i trust what people say. If you say Ryu can fly, ok i believe. When i say Yoshi is fast you say "prove". But what the hell, if it is SO important for you.Same video of Brayn and Yoshi, i dunno how you missed that but he teleports there.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srLwUEz03Wk&search=Yoshimitsu%20tekkenThat sputnic i was talking about. But my bad, tis dr. abel.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79_GiwlgfWY&search=Gun%20jack%20tekken.
He goes into stealth mode not teleportation moron wtf and where's paul beating ogre?
Originally posted by Sam Z
Does it have to be equel to hurt Ryu? I believe that laser blast wont be a joke even for him..
I was talking about ryu, when I say ki blast it's not just a projectile
Originally posted by Sam Z
match? I didn't said that. You said that Kazuya can stand against Ryu and even that is already a progress.
And that's the thing. You can write any scenario but it wouldn't sound reasonable or realistic. You'll have to assume that superboy (or in our case tekken characters) will not attack back or will fight like idiots and that's what you did in your scenario.
I was being sarcastic when I said match since I clearly put Quotations on it moron. and in my scenerio I assumed the obvious why would all the characters work together and even if they did what's stopping them from betraying each other, like superboy said anyone can right a scnerio where they win moron.
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
No, I said bryan's feat was impressive but compared to ayane it's not that big of a deal, why don't you quote me next time instead of lokking like a moron .And I know I didn't comment on jins feats I said that previously.
😂 yeah ok, you didn't commented jins video, just proves that you really don't read my posts or watch my links.
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
Becuase ryu wouldn't have to run away at all he could just block all the bullets. and raven moving like a ghost is a big deal since hayabusa does that all the time during flying swallow,storm of the hheavenly dragons, dead soul bind.
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
Sam-Z if he teleports and reappears far away the only people that can pursue him are yoshi and raven (since they are the only ones with teleportation). Did you read about what I said about them getting close, How is raven and yoshi gonna get close to him if he can sheild himself with art of the icestorm ninpo. they would be frozen instantly and huge ice shards that would become hazardous to anyone else that tries to advance so explain sam z how yoshi and raven would get around that?
The only people who can pursue him are Yoshi and Raven? No kidding?
That's why I actually said 2 people who can teleport.
And if he is gonna teleport there other fighters can just hit him from the distance. Or if by "far" you mean so far that even Jin's laser won't be able to reach him than you are even dumber than i thought. This is fighting and if you assume that Ryu can teleport far away that noone will be able to find him then it's hillarious. what's the point of the fight then if he can just teleport many miles away?
So even if he teleports he'll be hit by any one with distance attack and then finished by Yoshi or raven.
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
And I just told you I'm not gonna use that anymore, and no it doesn't make sense, since you can't even get how it works correctly first he looks at you than he fouses than he looks again. again I ask you what does telekenesis have to do with your eye's???
You are so pathetic, you can't explain how is Ryu gonna avoid it and that's why change subject into "you don't know how it works" and base yourself on my bad english. Enough running of the question, just try to explain or leave the idea if you can't.
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
It matters when a fanboy like you thinks destroying 2 unarmed helicopters is more impressive than taking out 3 higly advanced, heavily armed, aircraft that out manevuer, out perform, and out gun a simply helicopter. but your right you proved ogre has distance attacks but my old argument was "Name anyone with distance attacks and teleportation on par with ryu" but whatever I'm done using that argument.
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
It doesn't matter what you think Sam-z, you have to prove that he can't which you have yet to do get over yourself. because you are a fanboy.
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
And I asked you what relevance does jann lee defeating a T-rex have to do if you want me to prove ryu can beat tekken and kazuya 1 on 1, god your stupid.
Originally posted by Blue nocturneCorrection was when i said that it is focusing, not looking after i realised the diffarance between these two in english. But you prefere to keep pointing me at my "looking" mistake only to avoid answering the question i asked you.
You didn't even know the difference between focusing and looking you said it yourself so how is it a correction?
Originally posted by Blue nocturnelol You provided only 4 ways to prove that Ryu can take all of them at the same time? If it was refering only to Kazuya then i already admitted these are good points but if you wanna put that against all characters I can give you 50 and more ways of how they can kill him and that would be 50 vs 4 and by your logic it would mean Ryu doesn't stands a chance.
He doesn't have to dodge he can teleport and when he teleports he's gone thus evading the attack. your argument relies on one attack I have listed 4. that's a ratio of 4:1 ryu has a higher chance of winning. if teleportation is useless prove it show me someone trying to teleport from his tk and failing.
Originally posted by Blue nocturneThat's the thing, you didn't give any argument on how is he gonna beat them all, only Kazuya, i don't mind debating Ryu vs Kazuya, anytime no problem but since you've been trying to run of the question (how Ryu gonna beat them all) I firstly wanna hear explanation of that.
Now your running away, sam z were discussing as you said kazuya vs ryu, ryu vs tekken. I already gave you an argument about ryu vs tekken on my previous post. but now that I have a different argument you miraclesly don't see a point in debating kazuya vs ryu anymore, I'm taking that as a forfeit for kazuya unless you debate me.
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
Since hayabusa's teleportation is also an attack,had you actually reseached the character you were debating you would know that.
Originally posted by Blue nocturneI'm desperate because your stupidity does not allow us to debate normally. Laser beat lightnings and fire and etc? Why beat. Hell just hit. And all this ki blast come from one man and since you think he can beat all at the same time his blasts will have to compete with Ogre's breath, Jinpachi's blast, Kazuya's laser, Jin's laser, Gon's fire all at the same time from different locations. My "only" argument (even though there are many others) you still couldn't counter and that is an argumet for one character only, keep in mind you also has to counter all my argument of over 20 other characters. Yeah, lol I'm desparate and I'm all shaking...
A blast of ki, try several seprate blast of lighting attacking at once how can one laser beam beat at least four lightning bolts attacking different directions at one or a huge ball of fire, or freezing whirl wind throwing ice shards or a sheild of fire combine that with the fact hayabusa can do them and instanly teleport away while kazuya is dealing with an attack? the tk argument is the only one you have in kazuya's case so your desperate.
Originally posted by Blue nocturnelol do I know how to quote?
Do you know how to quote like I just did right now because that's how you debate, and I don't care if you don't speak english well. you can't prove none of your points
Originally posted by Blue nocturneFirst of all takes place between 4 and 5, second. That she's died you only like an idiot repeated what you heard from Darkstrom zero. She has dissapered and in intro in which according to him we were supposed to see her head was nothing.
1. devil within is canon despite the fact jins mother died in tekken 3 yet he's looking for her in devil within which you said takes place between 3 and 4
Originally posted by Blue nocturneAgain you prefere to point me at my mistake of english language insted of answering the question I've been asking you for many pages. Hell, i would've left that tk argument long ago if you could give me explanation of how is Ryu gonna avoid it that makes sense.
2.A telekensis which you can't even explain how it works, first he just looks at you now it's focusing, and again I ask you WTF does TK have to do with eye's ?
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
3. And you haven't explained why teleportation wouldn't work, the only thing you said was since none of the teleporters won an iron fist tournament it's useless. what a dumb argument from a dumb person explain how that would be a point if your not even sure yoshi fought kazuya and even if he did and won did he use his tk because he doesn't always use it ( against jin) and even if he did was it the reason yoshi lost.
I can continue to # "10)" but I believe you already guessed his name.
Originally posted by Blue nocturneOnly means he used little differant power, if you are stupid enough to believe that they just didn't showed any waves in case of heihachi then explain what stopped authors from that? Hell, you are so stupid, you only want that attack to be visible and with waves coz otherwise it draggs us back to the question you cant answer.
There was nothing moving towards heiachi yet there was something moving towards howrang so if they have all the same powers that means the cut scene didn't show the wave and that it's not really as invisble like you've been whining all the time. so explain why there tk is so different.
Originally posted by Blue nocturne-Wow your stupid, when jin raised his and and aimed at hworang,if a wave comes out of jins hands where else would it go?
-I said several skyscrappers not one
-what does it matter what hayabusa destroyed, the fact remains ayane's best feat is on par with jin who is possibly the strongest character in his universe and ayane is not
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
1 character because he has all their strengths, he can pick them all of one by one and lessen their ability example if he kills raven and yoshi tekken no longer has teleportation.
Originally posted by Blue nocturneSorry moron, but he first goes in the stealth mode and then teleports that's why he appears on the other side, is it so hard to understand?He goes into stealth mode not teleportation moron wtf and where's paul beating ogre?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFEkweZEfb4&search=Yoshimitsu%20match
In the last round. Sometimes he teleports behind the back.
Oh and my bad forgot about the Paul.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nq8MED6fqPk&search=paul%20%20tekken in the beginning.
So, what's next? Will ask me to prove that Guy in the video is really Yoshi and not his clone? 🙄
Originally posted by Blue nocturneI was being sarcastic when I said match since I clearly put Quotations on it moron. and in my scenerio I assumed the obvious why would all the characters work together and even if they did what's stopping them from betraying each other, like superboy said anyone can right a scnerio where they win moron.
lol you are so stupid, is it a first time you participate in discussion? If your win is only based on that they might not work together than don't wanna upset you but on vs forums we assume all characters fight those who are they supposed to fight according to discussion, despite all their personal preferances. Anyone can write scenario but not anyone can make all fighters really fight in their scenarios, and that's what you did. You assumed that the only one who is going to fight well is Ryu.
Originally posted by Zen2nd
I didn't ignore anything. I just had to post as you can clearly see Ryu teleporting in the video yet you missed it?! Even with a video showing evidence of Ryu teleporting you missed it and I ask again can you really be debating the two games?I'd also like to ask if you have played DOA 4 for more than 10 hours?
I frankly don't care if you are a fanboy, its no skin off my back.
But saying that Ryu pwnes all Tekken characters at the same time doesn't make you think that Blue Nocturne has lack of knowledge about Tekken?