Originally posted by Sam Z
😂 yeah ok, you didn't commented jins video, just proves that you really don't read my posts or watch my links.
This proves it how, I commented on every feat but that big whoop.
Originally posted by Sam Z
I don't wanna upset you but blocking bullets doesn't mean Yoshi can't compete with Ryu. That's stupid argument
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8F7D-LzbuVo&search=Yoshimitsu%20ending
And as for Raven, big deal or not - just telling you what is he capable of.
Originally posted by Sam Z
The only people who can pursue him are Yoshi and Raven? No kidding?
That's why I actually said 2 people who can teleport.
And if he is gonna teleport there other fighters can just hit him from the distance. Or if by "far" you mean so far that even Jin's laser won't be able to reach him than you are even dumber than i thought. This is fighting and if you assume that Ryu can teleport far away that noone will be able to find him then it's hillarious. what's the point of the fight then if he can just teleport many miles away?
So even if he teleports he'll be hit by any one with distance attack and then finished by Yoshi or raven.
How is he gonna get hit while he's in teleportation ASS?
and nice job avoiding the question can you explain how their gonna get past his art of the ice Storm which can turn them into a Popsicle?
Originally posted by Sam Z
You are so pathetic, you can't explain how is Ryu gonna avoid it and that's why change subject into "you don't know how it works" and base yourself on my bad english. Enough running of the question, just try to explain or leave the idea if you can't.
I answered the question more than once he can teleport before it hits him, you keep on saying he can't and than proceed to talk about how yoshi and raven never won a tekken I already told you what's wrong with that argument. so explain how the tk is gonna hit something that's teleporting?
Originally posted by Sam Z
My point wasn't that destroying two helicopters is a bigger deal than 3 aircraft my point was that it poroves that his distance attack is on pair with Ryu, and that was your old argument, you asked me to prove that his attack is on pair so if your fanboyism is not allowing you to accept it now, what can i say...
I know what your god damn point was sam z, I was just commenting on your fanboyism and again my old argument was asking a character with both teleportation on distance attacks on par with ryu but that's history now.
Originally posted by Sam Z
lol Actually YOU have to prove that he can, not only because you are a fanboy but because for now you haven't gave any explanation why or how is he going to do that.
And I already gave you an argument.
Originally posted by Sam Z
I want you to back up your words on that Ryu alone can beat all tekken characters. Tell me what relevance does Jin's tk has to do if you say that Ryu can beat all tekken characters at the same time?
You have a very hard time following people, when I was comparing jins tk to kazuya's,because you said kazuya's tk is completely invisible and undetectable and you also said it was similar to kazuya's. Yet in hworang's ending you can see jins tk so if their similar than they should both have the same kind of tk.
Originally posted by Sam Z
Correction was when i said that it is focusing, not looking after i realised the diffarance between these two in english. But you prefere to keep pointing me at my "looking" mistake only to avoid answering the question i asked you.
And you didn't even know the difference between looking and focusing if you deny that I can and will quote you. also I explained how he can dodge it teleportation but you won't accept it and haven't stated why, that bullshit about it being to fast isn't gonna slide with me.
Originally posted by Sam Z
lol You provided only 4 ways to prove that Ryu can take all of them at the same time? If it was refering only to Kazuya then i already admitted these are good points but if you wanna put that against all characters I can give you 50 and more ways of how they can kill him and that would be 50 vs 4 and by your logic it would mean Ryu doesn't stands a chance.
Go ahead make my day list fifty reasons why he can't win and I will counter it.
Originally posted by Sam Z
That's the thing, you didn't give any argument on how is he gonna beat them all, only Kazuya, i don't mind debating Ryu vs Kazuya, anytime no problem but since you've been trying to run of the question (how Ryu gonna beat them all) I firstly wanna hear explanation of that.
How am I running away when I gave an entire scenario on your word describing how he would win, and you asked me to explain how he would be kazuya one on one so I would like a better reply than the crap you posted.
Originally posted by Sam Z
lol says the guy who asked me to prove that Raven can teleport. 😂
And how many moves does raven have with teleportation as opposed to hayabusa and how many times does hayabusa teleports as opposed to raven. the answer is obvious hayabusa uses teleportation way more so it shouldn't be a hard move to spot and 2nd zen even told you it's breeze to do, but you still asked me for proof so my point stands you have no idea what the character your debating can do heck have you even played doa 4 or ninja gaiden?
Originally posted by Sam Z
I'm desperate because your stupidity does not allow us to debate normally. Laser beat lightnings and fire and etc? Why beat. Hell just hit. And all this ki blast come from one man and since you think he can beat all at the same time his blasts will have to compete with Ogre's breath, Jinpachi's blast, Kazuya's laser, Jin's laser, Gon's fire all at the same time from different locations. My "only" argument (even though there are many others) you still couldn't counter and that is an argumet for one character only, keep in mind you also has to counter all my argument of over 20 other characters. Yeah, lol I'm desparate and I'm all shaking...
Why are you quoting kazuya's 1 on 1 argument moron, all thos responses were rebuttals to kazuya's one on one fight can't you follow anything.
Originally posted by Sam Z
First of all takes place between 4 and 5, second. That she's died you only like an idiot repeated what you heard from Darkstrom zero. She has dissapered and in intro in which according to him we were supposed to see her head was nothing.
That video showed a decapitated head are you dumb wait you are , every time someone gives you a video link you never see what they were trying to tell you. you've done this twice first with the tekken 3 intro, second with my video link showing hayabusa teleporting and for the record I played tekken 3 before I joined kmc so i know jun is dead ass.
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Originally posted by Sam Z
Again you prefere to point me at my mistake of english language insted of answering the question I've been asking you for many pages. Hell, i would've left that tk argument long ago if you could give me explanation of how is Ryu gonna avoid it that makes sense.
again you prove how dumb you are, I said his teleportation several times, you keep saying it won't work explain without referring to yoshi or raven because I already told you the flaw in that argument.
Originally posted by Sam Z
Wanna hear about dumb persons? I'll tell you. there is a guy on games vs forum that
1) Believes that Ryu alone can beat all tekken characters at the same time.
Because he can, and their are other people who agreed with me because they know what he can do.
Originally posted by Sam Z
2) After saying that thing he dares to calls me a fanboy.
Your a fanboy because:
-Some how ryu can't dodge kazuya's TK despite having super spped, mastered taihenjutsu, and teleportation.
- ogre destroying two unarmed helicopters is more impressive than ryu destroying three heavily armed assault aircraft.
-Destroying more than half of three huge skyscrapers isn't as impressive as destroying a forest, I can destroy a forest by lighting a tree on fire seriously you suck.
Originally posted by Sam Z3) Asks proofs that Raven can teleport.
As opposed to you asking if hayabusa can teleport when he does it so often, way more than raven infact.
Originally posted by Sam Z
4) First says he wanna proofs Ogre's distance attackis on pair with Ryu and when gets them says that those helicopters were not a threat..
I said their not a threat because they aren't WTF can they do to him sam z, fly over him to death. and again I agreed that his distance attack is on par with ryu after you showed me moron.
Originally posted by Sam Z
5) Prefers to change subject when I ask him one simple question.I can continue to # "10)" but I believe you already guessed his name.
Can never quote me when he accuses me of doing something I didn't and again I told you moron how he's gonna dodge the tk;teleportation.
Originally posted by Sam Z
Only means he used little differant power, if you are stupid enough to believe that they just didn't showed any waves in case of heihachi then explain what stopped authors from that? Hell, you are so stupid, you only want that attack to be visible and with waves coz otherwise it draggs us back to the question you cant answer..
So sam z prove to me that he used a little different power since you work at namco somehow😆
And again I answered how he dodge it Teleportation so explain why it won't work.
Originally posted by Sam Z
It does matter coz untill Hayabusa was shown to destroy anything more impressive than Ayane it could be that his attacks are less powerfull.
So his distruction feats are less impressive than Jin's untill ypu prove it wrong.
How are his attacks less powerful if he's the strongest character, I want you to explain that moron. And I wasn't trying to prove he has the most destructive move ever, however I can prove he's the most versatile character around which is the key for him to beat the entire tekken which he can.
Originally posted by Sam Z
Yeah, and that's what i was talking about, you say he kills yoshi and raven and that's it.
But if there are many characters from differant locations who attack him from distance and two teleportators whos speed is comparable to Ryu it ain't gonna happen that way.
How are they gonna hit him let alone pursue him while his teleporting, because the only people that can follow him are raven and yoshi when he disappears and you still haven't explained how there gonna get close to him?
Originally posted by Sam Z
Sorry moron, but he first goes in the stealth mode and then teleports that's why he appears on the other side, is it so hard to understand?
But what the hell if you are that stupid, here you gohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFEkweZEfb4&search=Yoshimitsu%20match
In the last round. Sometimes he teleports behind the back.Oh and my bad forgot about the Paul.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nq8MED6fqPk&search=paul%20%20tekken in the beginning..
-He reappears the same way he goes into stealth yet that's teleportation and somehow not stealth, bad evidence sam z try again.
Originally posted by Sam Z
lol you are so stupid, is it a first time you participate in discussion? If your win is only based on that they might not work together than don't wanna upset you but on vs forums we assume all characters fight those who are they supposed to fight according to discussion, despite all their personal preferances. Anyone can write scenario but not anyone can make all fighters really fight in their scenarios, and that's what you did. You assumed that the only one who is going to fight well is Ryu.
a scenario can always be written in a way to make a character win, WTF is so hard to grasp about that.
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
This proves it how, I commented on every feat but that big whoop.
So did I.
Originally posted by Blue nocturneIf you payed a little attention to my post you would've known I already answered the question about Yoshi and Raven.
How is he gonna get hit while he's in teleportation [B]ASS?
and nice job avoiding the question can you explain how their gonna get past his art of the ice Storm which can turn them into a Popsicle?
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Originally posted by Blue nocturne
I answered the question more than once he can teleport before it hits him, you keep on saying he can't and than proceed to talk about how yoshi and raven never won a tekken I already told you what's wrong with that argument. so explain how the tk is gonna hit something that's teleporting?
As you already must know Kazuya only has to focus on Ryu.
Ryu may teleport as much as he likes but sooner or later he'll have to stop for a moment to attack if he wants to fight and not to play hide and seek and since you say he can beat all at the same time it wont be only Kazuya who have to focus on him but there will be 20 others who might hit him and some of them even might hit him between his teleportations.
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
I know what your god damn point was sam z, I was just commenting on your fanboyism and again my old argument was asking a character with both teleportation on distance attacks on par with ryu but that's history now.
This is your old argument -
Originally posted by Blue nocturnelol you was commenting on my fanboyism even after i proved what you asked me to prove. But seems that for you givving proofs means being a fanboy. Try to concentrate on your own fanboyism instead.
I asked you moron to prove that they have distance attacks on par with ryu you still haven't done it.
Originally posted by Blue nocturnelol And i have hard time following after that. Kazuya tk was invisible and there was no waves and if you are too dumb not to see that that's your problems. What i said was "Devil Kazuya has same powers as devil Jin".You have a very hard time following people, when I was comparing jins tk to kazuya's,because you said kazuya's tk is completely invisible and undetectable and you also said it was similar to kazuya's. Yet in hworang's ending you can see jins tk so if their similar than they should both have the same kind of tk.
Originally posted by Blue nocturneMy God you really get dumber with every post. 😂And you didn't even know the difference between looking and focusing if you deny that I can and will quote you. also I explained how he can dodge it teleportation but you won't accept it and haven't stated why, that bullshit about it being to fast isn't gonna slide with me.
Originally posted by Blue nocturneNo of why can't win but 50 ways of how they can kill him. Every tekken character has atleast 2 ways to kill him and that's not the big news.
Go ahead make my day list fifty reasons why he can't win and I will counter it.
Originally posted by Blue nocturneCrap was your scenario of how he beats them, so please. Make a little efforts to explain again but let it be not that hillarious.
How am I running away when I gave an entire scenario on your word describing how he would win, and you asked me to explain how he would be kazuya one on one so I would like a better reply than the crap you posted.
Originally posted by Blue nocturne😆 Ryu teleported more than Raven that's why he will beat over 20 characters at the same time. lol you are stupid. And as for no idea buddy, you showed that you have no idea of characters you said to be defeated with easy by Ryu, so cut that crap.
And how many moves does raven have with teleportation as opposed to hayabusa and how many times does hayabusa teleports as opposed to raven. the answer is obvious hayabusa uses teleportation way more so it shouldn't be a hard move to spot and 2nd zen even told you it's breeze to do, but you still asked me for proof so my point stands you have no idea what the character your debating can do heck have you even played doa 4 or ninja gaiden?
Originally posted by Blue nocturneYou can't even follow yourself. You many times said Ryu can teke all at the same time but never dared to give a normal reason how or why. But insted you are trying to dragg that into Ryu vs Kazuya only. Hell, i don't mind, but you prove first what you said about all at the same time.
Why are you quoting kazuya's 1 on 1 argument moron, all thos responses were rebuttals to kazuya's one on one fight can't you follow anything.
Originally posted by Blue nocturne😆 😆 😆
That video showed a decapitated head are you dumb wait you are , every time someone gives you a video link you never see what they were trying to tell you. you've done this twice first with the tekken 3 intro, second with my video link showing hayabusa teleporting and for the record I played tekken 3 before I joined kmc so i know jun is dead ass.
Actually it was ME who gave link for the intro of tekken 3 and asked darkstrom to point at Jun's head. He couldn't do that. Neither could you. I give you videos but instead of watching and commenting them you whine for more, so you are the only dumb here.
Originally posted by Blue nocturneI already explained but you are so stupid that you want Kazuya's attack to be slow and visible (even though it's not) so you keep whining about same things and never gave reasonable explanation.
again you prove how dumb you are, I said his teleportation several times, you keep saying it won't work explain without referring to yoshi or raven because I already told you the flaw in that argument.
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
Because he can, and their are other people who agreed with me because they know what he can do.
What people? Shin Remy? I talked to him on other thread and when he actually realised you was talking about ALL AT THE SAME TIME he said he wont come to this thread any more. lol Even Shin Remy understands how stupid that is and what a fanboy you are.
Originally posted by Blue nocturneYour a fanboy because:
-Some how ryu can't dodge kazuya's TK despite having super spped, mastered taihenjutsu, and teleportation.
And I already explained why and you yet didn't dared to counter it, when it comes for you to explain you switch subject into Hwoarang ending.
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
- ogre destroying two unarmed helicopters is more impressive than ryu destroying three heavily armed assault aircraft.
Originally posted by Blue nocturneSeriously you dumb, i said it is not less impressive. And much more impressive than destroying an aircraft.
-Destroying more than half of three huge skyscrapers isn't as impressive as destroying a forest, I can destroy a forest by lighting a tree on fire seriously you suck.
Originally posted by Blue nocturneMore often means he will defeat all at the same time? 😄 👆
As opposed to you asking if hayabusa can teleport when he does it so often, way more than raven infact.
Originally posted by Blue nocturnelol You really get dumber from post to post. Who gives a f!@k if they are a threat, you asked for proofs of distance attack and i gave it, and i never said they are a terrible threat, so what's your problem now? You think whining about it will help you somehow?
I said their not a threat because they aren't WTF can they do to him sam z, fly over him to death. and again I agreed that his distance attack is on par with ryu after you showed me moron.
Originally posted by Blue nocturneYeah and you also was talking about waves, and there were no waves in Kazuya ending. I already explained why your "explanation" was hillarious.
Can never quote me when he accuses me of doing something I didn't and again I told you moron how he's gonna dodge the tk;teleportation.
Originally posted by Blue nocturneUse your own eyes. Or is it so hard for you?
So sam z prove to me that he used a little different power since you work at namco somehow😆
Originally posted by Blue nocturnelol you are moron, i asked you to show me him causing more distruction than feat where were destroyed skyscrapers, i don't need your "he is the strongest" i just wanna see him doing more impressive distraction feat than Jin, since you say he can take them all with easy.
How are his attacks less powerful if he's the strongest character, I want you to explain that moron. And I wasn't trying to prove he has the most destructive move ever, however I can prove he's the most versatile character around which is the key for him to beat the entire tekken which he can.
Originally posted by Blue nocturneThey can follow him, others can hit him from distance and when he is hit Yoshi or raven can get close to him, I already explained that but what the hell, I'm already got used that you need to hear everything three times to realise it...
How are they gonna hit him let alone pursue him while his teleporting, because the only people that can follow him are raven and yoshi when he disappears and you still haven't explained how there gonna get close to him?
Originally posted by Blue nocturneBad evidence if you are blind and if you as usually keep whining for more. Why do I waste time if you'll say the same thing. Research on Yoshi in Youtube, you'll find many matches in which he teleports behind the back of his opponents.
-He reappears the same way he goes into stealth yet that's teleportation and somehow not stealth, bad evidence sam z try again.
Originally posted by Blue nocturneWTF is so hard to understand for you that if scenario is written well and all characters in this scenario fight normally and not like idiots the outcome will be like this - will win those who have all chances of winning and in our case it is Tekken.
a scenario can always be written in a way to make a character win, WTF is so hard to grasp about that.
Originally posted by looldude
Though i respect both of you guys because you guys both know what you are talking about. I'm going to have to side with Sam Z on this one. 20 people is overwhelming. ONE is already enough.
big deal about teleport and ki blast if a fighter can just yes, ladies and gentlemen, BLOCK.
Thank you Looldude.
Maybe now, Blue Nocturne will finally understand that Ryu alone vs over 20 is not possible .
Heh, I cannot beleive that this is still being debated... and by the same people no less... Now, since my name has been mentioned, I shall respond in kind
Originally posted by Sam Z
Actually it was ME who gave link for the intro of tekken 3 and asked darkstrom to point at Jun's head. He couldn't do that. Neither could you. I give you videos but instead of watching and commenting them you whine for more, so you are the only dumb here.
Listen, very carefully this time, I did answer you, but you refused to accept my answer, for whatever reason. About the 4th last scene, we see Ogre pick up an object off the ground, do you know what that object was? Let me give you a hint, it has hair on the top, and a hairpeice, and it contains flesh, blood and a skull... Thats right, you guessed it, it was Jun's Decapitated Head!
Now that the proof is irrefutable, provided By you yourself, what is your counter to my argument?
Originally posted by Sam ZIf you payed a little attention to my post you would've known I already answered the question about Yoshi and Raven.
And as for teleportation, keep reading...
You haven't said jack about them getting past art of the ice storm, and please don't ***** about repeating yourself I've been doing that alot this argument explain how are they gonna get past art of the ice storm and I know what you said about ryu's teleportation "When he reappears he'll get blasted by 5 people" yet failed to read again I said how is gonna get hit when he disappears.
Originally posted by Sam Z
As you already must know Kazuya only has to focus on Ryu.
Ryu may teleport as much as he likes but sooner or later he'll have to stop for a moment to attack if he wants to fight and not to play hide and seek and since you say he can beat all at the same time it wont be only Kazuya who have to focus on him but there will be 20 others who might hit him and some of them even might hit him between his teleportations.
Man you do not read, I told you already ryu can attack when he reappears from teleportation at once. he doesn't have to reappear and attack he can do it at once. and your running away again I'm aware their is a ryu vs tekken argument but there is also a ryu vs kazuya 1 on 1 argument but now it seems you don't wanna debate it so I take it you concede the argument of ryu vs kazuya 1 on 1. because if you keep mentioning the rest of the tekken cast in the ryu vs kazuya 1on 1 argument I'll see that as a forfeit.
Originally posted by Sam Z
This is your old argument -
lol you was commenting on my fanboyism even after i proved what you asked me to prove. But seems that for you givving proofs means being a fanboy. Try to concentrate on your own fanboyism instead.
But you didn't prove what I asked, I asked you to show me someone with teleportion combined with distance attacks on par with ryu. I never said I didn't accept ogre's distance attack to be on par with ryu but I did disagree on it being an impressive feat .
Originally posted by Sam Z
lol And i have hard time following after that. Kazuya tk was invisible and there was no waves and if you are too dumb not to see that that's your problems. What i said was "Devil Kazuya has same powers as devil Jin".
You said kazuya, you never said kazuya you idiot and are you trying to tell me that wasn't devil in kazuya's tekken 4 ending. because
1. kazuya doesn't have a tk devil does
2. since when does his eye's glow?
Originally posted by Sam Z
But you keep thinking it wont work because authors forgot to make waves in Kazyta's ending lol so again you explanation of how is he gonna do that was hillarious.
It won't work because ryu has teleportation, so explain to me why ryu can't escape by teleporting.
Originally posted by Sam Z
No of why can't win but 50 ways of how they can kill him. Every tekken character has atleast 2 ways to kill him and that's not the big news.
Can you list those ways seeing I've listed all those ways multiple times.
Originally posted by Sam Z
😆 Ryu teleported more than Raven that's why he will beat over 20 characters at the same time. lol you are stupid. And as for no idea buddy, you showed that you have no idea of characters you said to be defeated with easy by Ryu, so cut that crap.
That post said nothing about teleportation beating raven, You have tendency to make responses that don't address the rebuttal instead you change the argument when I give you a response. That response was to show you how uninformed you are for asking proof of hayabusa teleporting I said it previously in this post
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
Since hayabusa's teleportation is also an attack,had you actually reseached the character you were debating you would know that.
because anyone who plays doa knows that since he does it so often, so I'm not as misinformed as you said in this quote:
Originally posted by Sam Zlol says the guy who asked me to prove that Raven can teleport. 😂
Originally posted by Sam Z
You can't even follow yourself. You many times said Ryu can teke all at the same time but never dared to give a normal reason how or why. But insted you are trying to dragg that into Ryu vs Kazuya only. Hell, i don't mind, but you prove first what you said about all at the same time.
All at the same time,if I do that that means were not debating kazuya vs ryu 1 on 1 anymore rather just tekken vs ryu if you wanna concede kazuya vs ryu 1 on 1 go ahead, it's funny when I give you an argument besides teleportation and ki blast and decided to be specific you suddenly don't wanna focus on kazuya vs ryu 1on 1 instead you keep bringing the rest of the tekken cast into your argument turning it into tekken vs ryu. so I'll take that as you forfeiting kazuya vs ryu 1 on 1.
Originally posted by Sam Z
😆 😆 😆Actually it was ME who gave link for the intro of tekken 3 and asked darkstrom to point at Jun's head. He couldn't do that. Neither could you. I give you videos but instead of watching and commenting them you whine for more, so you are the only dumb here.
Why are you laughing 😕 I never said you didn't give them the video, I said you never listened when they pointed out juns head you on the other hand said it wasn't their just like ryu's teleportation man your dumb 😆 😆 😆
Originally posted by Sam Z
I already explained but you are so stupid that you want Kazuya's attack to be slow and visible (even though it's not) so you keep whining about same things and never gave reasonable explanation.
"He can't teleport faster than kazuya focuses" are you serious? WTF is that based on you work at namco now and now the speed of how someone focuses because impulses travel at 65 mph IIRC, It was stated in kmc and ryu can move way faster than that.
Originally posted by Sam Z
What people? Shin Remy? I talked to him on other thread and when he actually realised you was talking about ALL AT THE SAME TIME he said he wont come to this thread any more. lol Even Shin Remy understands how stupid that is and what a fanboy you are.
Superboy prime and skeets, also shin remy just said "Oh, I'll stay out of this" he said your a fanboy which you are and you can't debate.
Originally posted by Sam Z
And I already explained why and you yet didn't dared to counter it, when it comes for you to explain you switch subject into Hwoarang ending.
And you won't DARE Read, cause you can't it's been said before so I'll say it again HIS TELEPORTION It's funny because in the post you made above me you said:
Originally posted by Sam Z
As you already must know Kazuya only has to focus on Ryu.
Ryu may teleport as much as he likes but sooner or later he'll have to stop for a moment to attack if he wants to fight and not to play hide and seek and since you say he can beat all at the same time it wont be only Kazuya who have to focus on him but there will be 20 others who might hit him and some of them even might hit him between his teleportations.
So if I didn't counter it why did you make a rebuttal mentioning the so called reason I didn't say, and your so desperate your getting rid of the kazuya vs ryu 1 on 1 debate it's obvious, you try to accuse me of only focusing on it yet I wrote a scenario with ryu vs tekken I was even debating you on it, that's when I asked you a question to a remark you made so I'll repeat myself, how is ryu gonna be hit while he's in teleportation?
Originally posted by Sam Z
Another prof of how stupid you are. I said destroying two helicopters at the same time is not a less impressive feat of distance attack than destroying one aircraft.
And that remark makes you a fanboy, of course ogre's gonna destroy them their completely unarmed and posed no threat at all how hard is that. a vigoorian soldier can do that with a rocket launcher.
Originally posted by Sam Z
Seriously you dumb, i said it is not less impressive. And much more impressive than destroying an aircraft.
you said jin destroying a forest is more impressive than ayane destroying the tri towers, you even quoted me telling you that so why are you mentioning the destruction of an aircraft ?
Originally posted by Sam Z
You are a fanboy because:
You really believe Ryu alone will beat all at the same time (and that is the biggest but not the last reason)
-He can, it's not hard to believe since your struggling to even prove me wrong. the guy layed a solo siege on the capital of an empire defeated it's police force, military and pantheon of deities what tekken character can do that by himself?
Originally posted by Sam Z
You keep whining for proofs even after i gave them.
Like the proof teleportation can't work on kazuya's tk, that hayabusa can be hit while teleporting, that paul can beat a majority of doa fighters in 1 on 1 fights...
Originally posted by Sam Z
You say that helicopters are not a threat even though proving that they are was never my point.
I never disagreed with your intial point, I just said that the feat was not impressive because it really isn't.
Originally posted by Sam Z
More often means he will defeat all at the same time? 😄 👆
You did it again, you changed your argument when I gave a rebuttal...That wasa response for you calling me a fanboy because I asked if raven can teleport i can and will quote you. you've changed the argument after I given you a rebuttal twice...
Originally posted by Sam Z
lol You really get dumber from post to post. Who gives a f!@k if they are a threat, you asked for proofs of distance attack and i gave it, and i never said they are a terrible threat, so what's your problem now? You think whining about it will help you somehow?
My point is that feat is lame as opposed to ryu destroying the aircraft, the helicopters not being a threat is the reason why but you seem to think it's more impressive because your a fanboy. Again I never said you didn't prove ogre has distance attacks
Originally posted by Sam Z
Yeah and you also was talking about waves, and there were no waves in Kazuya ending. I already explained why your "explanation" was hillarious.
Yet he's using the same tk as jin yeah that makes alot of sense. 😆
Originally posted by Sam Z
Use your own eyes. Or is it so hard for you?
Coming from a guy who could not see juns decapitated head on a video he posted trying to prove it wasn't there when it was, coming from aguy he couldn't hayabusa teleporting in video I posted when he did...anyway like I said explain how do you know the creators didn't make a mistake and intended to show waves explain because you said their similar jin and kazuya that is so why not have the same attack and if it is a different attack than what is it?
Originally posted by Sam Z
lol you are moron, i asked you to show me him causing more distruction than feat where were destroyed skyscrapers, i don't need your "he is the strongest" i just wanna see him doing more impressive distraction feat than Jin, since you say he can take them all with easy.
And I told you what makes hayabusa dangerous his versatility.
Originally posted by Sam Z
They can follow him, others can hit him from distance and when he is hit Yoshi or raven can get close to him, I already explained that but what the hell, I'm already got used that you need to hear everything three times to realise it...
Again,How can the others follow him if he's teleporting you refuse to explain that.
Originally posted by Sam Z
Bad evidence if you are blind and if you as usually keep whining for more. Why do I waste time if you'll say the same thing. Research on Yoshi in Youtube, you'll find many matches in which he teleports behind the back of his opponents.
And WOW! We have a progress here. You didn't said that Paul defeating Ogre is a bad evidence. But may be you just forgot...
😆 😆 😆
Sam z why did you listen to and waste time, I told you "Let's play game" when I asked you to prove multiple thing, thanks for entertaining me 😆 😆 😆
Originally posted by Sam Z
WTF is so hard to understand for you that if scenario is written well and all characters in this scenario fight normally and not like idiots the outcome will be like this - will win those who have all chances of winning and in our case it is Tekken.
Please define A well scenario, because in all of yours hayabusa can magically be hit while in teleportation and can't dodge anything, so tell me what's well?
Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Heh, I cannot beleive that this is still being debated... and by the same people no less... Now, since my name has been mentioned, I shall respond in kindListen, very carefully this time, I did answer you, but you refused to accept my answer, for whatever reason. About the 4th last scene, we see Ogre pick up an object off the ground, do you know what that object was? Let me give you a hint, it has hair on the top, and a hairpeice, and it contains flesh, blood and a skull... Thats right, you guessed it, it was Jun's Decapitated Head!
Now that the proof is irrefutable, provided By you yourself, what is your counter to my argument?
Ok Darkstorm Zero, i personally don't have anything against you, but let's make that clear. You said in tekken 3 intro.
Here is the link again.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IrhAJQLK_Y&search=tekken%203%20intro
First we see "once again fate brings together those who need the call..."
Then we see Heihachi landing in the choper.
Next we see first Ogre's red eye then his face. Then we see heihachi again.
Next we see Paul kicking some guy's ass in the railway station.
Then we see marshal china restaurant, Forest and Marshal saving girl from some guys.
Then we see Kings training in the gym.
Then Xciao Yu on the sheep kicking some asses.
The we see anna or nina(not sure) wakes up after being freezed for years.
Next Lei Wu long running away from the helicopter.
Then we see Yoshimitsu in the forest.
Then Lei again jumping from the explosion.
Then Eddie Gordo escaping prison.
Next is Hwoarang on the bike.
Next we see car.
Hwoarang smiles.
Eddie's master helps him to escape.
Hwoarang driving away.
Then we see light in the forest attacking Jin and we see devil.
Then we see "tekken 3" sign.
This is the whole intro, now please again, point me between which scenes I've listed the is Jun's head.
OH LOL MY GOD😆😆
Just found this, must be "intro" you was talking about.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BA4evayEOrQ&search=tekken%203
First we see Jin standing in some mystical red place, then we see Jun, then we see Kazuya healthy and smiling who actually was lieing dead in the volcano or in g corporation by that time, then we see dark silhouette of Ogre holding something dark that is three times bigger than his own head.
First of all we see no flash, no boddy and no blood and this black thing is really bigger than Ogre's head and it might be anything. "Hair" you was talking about are not moving like something solid and they are are bent a little to the left even though they are supposed to hang straight down.
Second this is a short video for ARCADE MODE, it was made just for show like video of Jin training in Tekken 6, because Jin punching camera is hardly something from tekken story. So if this is your undebatable prove of her being dead then I must dissapoint you.
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
You haven't said jack about them getting past art of the ice storm, and please don't ***** about repeating yourself I've been doing that alot this argument explain how are they gonna get past art of the ice storm and I know what you said about ryu's teleportation "When he reappears he'll get blasted by 5 people" yet failed to read again I said how is gonna get hit when he disappears.
How? Strongly and in the face, It's really sometimes hard to understand you. He can't be hit while he teleports but between teleportations he can. So what's your point?
Originally posted by Blue nocturneMan you do not read, I told you already ryu can attack when he reappears from teleportation at once. he doesn't have to reappear and attack he can do it at once. and your running away again I'm aware their is a ryu vs tekken argument but there is also a ryu vs kazuya 1 on 1 argument but now it seems you don't wanna debate it so I take it you concede the argument of ryu vs kazuya 1 on 1. because if you keep mentioning the rest of the tekken cast in the ryu vs kazuya 1on 1 argument I'll see that as a forfeit.
Originally posted by Blue nocturneActually you asked for proofs of teleportation combined with ki manipulation and I like 20 times told you the are no such characters, but you moron, as usually ignored it. I also told you that ki + teleportation doesn't mean a sh!t in fight with over 20 characters with differant powers including simillar to Ryu's. Then you asked me to give proofs of Ogre distance attack, i gave and now you say you except it but before you was whining for more proofs.doh
But you didn't prove what I asked, I asked you to show me someone with teleportion combined with distance attacks on par with ryu. I never said I didn't accept ogre's distance attack to be on par with ryu but I did disagree on it being an impressive feat .
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
You said kazuya, you never said kazuya you idiot and are you trying to tell me that wasn't devil in kazuya's tekken 4 ending. because
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
1. kazuya doesn't have a tk devil does
2. since when does his eye's glow?
Originally posted by Blue nocturneIt won't work because ryu has teleportation, so explain to me why ryu can't escape by teleporting.
He can escape once or twice, and then? You think he'll be able to stay of Kazuya's sight for whole the fight? Especially if Kazuya flies circles and Ryu has to fight not to hide. Sorry but all your "teleportation win" is even bad argument for fighting Kazuya only, I'm not even talking about all other characters.
Originally posted by Blue nocturneAll ways of over 20 characters? 🙂 I don't spend the whole day on this forum, you know. The fact is that every character can kill him with atleast two ways, I'm not saying it will work with everybody because he might avoid it but they have WAYS, means physical ability to do it. Are you going to argue that too? 🙄
Can you list those ways seeing I've listed all those ways multiple times.
Originally posted by Blue nocturneNot raven, but many your posts were based on his ability to teleport and to attack as a "proof" that he can beat them all so I address everything right, I address it to you since it was your opinion, not to one of your posts. As for being misinformed buddy, your asks to prove some things speak for themselvs. Like asking for prove that Paul defeated Ogre and that Yoshi can teleport because it is his basic attack and especially speaks for it self your frase that Ryu can beat all at the same time, so cut the crap about misinformation.That post said nothing about teleportation beating raven, You have tendency to make responses that don't address the rebuttal instead you change the argument when I give you a response. That response was to show you how uninformed you are for asking proof of hayabusa teleporting I said it previously in this post
because anyone who plays doa knows that since he does it so often, so I'm not as misinformed as you said in this quote:
Originally posted by Blue nocturneYou can take it as a special way of debating with fanboys, all your arguments you first time mentioned on previous page and I already responded on them. But your main argument that he can beat all you was saying for over 14 pages so it IS your main argument and you first have to prove it or even better admitt you were wrong because if you even can't take reasons about all tekken characters at the same time you would never take any reason about Kazuya alone, even if I'd give many links, reaons and proofs, so first try to tackle your fanboyism and then you'll have a point.
All at the same time,if I do that that means were not debating kazuya vs ryu 1 on 1 anymore rather just tekken vs ryu if you wanna concede kazuya vs ryu 1 on 1 go ahead, it's funny when I give you an argument besides teleportation and ki blast and decided to be specific you suddenly don't wanna focus on kazuya vs ryu 1on 1 instead you keep bringing the rest of the tekken cast into your argument turning it into tekken vs ryu. so I'll take that as you forfeiting kazuya vs ryu 1 on 1.
Originally posted by Blue nocturneYou never said I didn't give them the video? And how about this?
Why are you laughing I never said you didn't give them the video, I said you never listened when they pointed out juns head you on the other hand said it wasn't their just like ryu's teleportation man your dumb 😆 😆 😆
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
"He can't teleport faster than kazuya focuses" are you serious? WTF is that based on you work at namco now and now the speed of how someone focuses because impulses travel at 65 mph IIRC, It was stated in kmc and ryu can move way faster than that.
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
Superboy prime and skeets, also shin remy just said "Oh, I'll stay out of this" he said your a fanboy which you are and you can't debate.
lol ok looldude, satsujin, and if you want actually to know what majority think just look at the poll, Shin Remy just realised you was talking about all at the same time vs Ryu and desided to quit because realised that supporting such fanboy as you would embarrass even him.
Originally posted by Blue nocturnelol getting rid? So discussing it for 14 pages means getting read? Givving feats, many links, reasons means getting rid? Unlike you I wasn't running of my own words, you said he pwnes them all and then I had to ask you to explain how, for damn 8 pages and you couldn't explain it but when you finally dared to all you could come up with was "ki + teleportation" 😂 and then you pretended you proved your point and started again dragging it into Ryu vs Kazuya only bacause otherwise you wouldn't stand a single chanse in this debate. I'll repeat it for you once and again, I don't mind debatin Ryu vs Kazuya and 80% of my posts were actually about this fight and sometimes i was asking for you to comment you RYUPWNESALL crap and you was always running from this question, now you are SO desperate that you are trying to make it look as if I was avoiding your questions and discussion but the truth is that' what you do, not me.
And you won't [B] DARE Read, cause you can't it's been said before so I'll say it again HIS TELEPORTION It's funny because in the post you made above me you said:So if I didn't counter it why did you make a rebuttal mentioning the so called reason I didn't say, and your so desperate your getting rid of the kazuya vs ryu 1 on 1 debate it's obvious, you try to accuse me of only focusing on it yet I wrote a scenario with ryu vs tekken I was even debating you on it, that's when I asked you a question to a remark you made so I'll repeat myself, how is ryu gonna be hit while he's in teleportation?[/B]
Originally posted by Blue nocturnelol struggled? Actually you struggled to give an explanation. Your beliefes of that are so hillarious (and everyone can see that) that you have to back them up with something reasonable, and you yet couldn't do that.
-He can, it's not hard to believe since your struggling to even prove me wrong. the guy layed a solo siege on the capital of an empire defeated it's police force, military and pantheon of deities what tekken character can do that by himself?
Originally posted by Blue nocturneNo like the proof:Like the proof teleportation can't work on kazuya's tk, that hayabusa can be hit while teleporting, that paul can beat a majority of doa fighters in 1 on 1 fights...
How about your proves?🙂
of Ryu beating all at the same time?
of him being faster than Yoshi?
of KOing T-rex?
I can continue.
Originally posted by Blue nocturneAnd I said that it is impressive feat of Ogre's distance attack and not that it is impressive coz helicopters were a terrible threat, i never said they were.
I never disagreed with your intial point, I just said that the feat was not impressive because it really isn't.
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
You did it again, you changed your argument when I gave a rebuttal...That wasa response for you calling me a fanboy because I asked if raven can teleport i can and will quote you. you've changed the argument after I given you a rebuttal twice...
lol I did what? You many times said that teleportation means he'll take them all at the same time, so I laugh at your opinion. And eveyone else would, if they read what I read. You aked if he can teleport and I gave you proofs that he can.
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
My point is that feat is lame as opposed to ryu destroying the aircraft, the helicopters not being a threat is the reason why but you seem to think it's more impressive because your a fanboy. Again I never said you didn't prove ogre has distance attacks
I'll do it as if I was talking with a kid, maybe you'll understand then. Jin is one of Tekken characters and you said Ryu can destroy them all with easy, then I asked you to show Ryu destroying something that is comparable to atleast one tekken character - to Jin, instead of that you use ABC logic that you call lame. You say Ayane destroyed three skyscrappers and Ryu is the strongest DOA character. I admitted Ayane's feat is not less impressive but I wanted not her feat of destroying buildings but Ryu's feat of destroying something to compare with Jin's feat. Is it so hard to understand?
Originally posted by Blue nocturneYet he's using the same tk as jin yeah that makes alot of sense. 😆
Originally posted by Blue nocturneYeah, and actually there was NO head in the INTRO, but anyway...
Coming from a guy who could not see juns decapitated head on a video he posted trying to prove it wasn't there when it was, coming from aguy he couldn't hayabusa teleporting in video I posted when he did
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
...anyway like I said explain how do you know the creators didn't make a mistake and intended to show waves explain because you said their similar jin and kazuya that is so why not have the same attack and if it is a different attack than what is it?
Originally posted by Blue nocturneUnless you assume he'll teleport on other continent the answer is - easilly.
Again,How can the others follow him if he's teleporting you refuse to explain that.
Originally posted by Blue nocturneNo problem, but the funny thing is that you was playing this game for entire thread. That was your only respone for my questions "prove" that's why I on purpose started acting the same way.
😆Sam z why did you listen to and waste time, I told you "Let's play game" when I asked you to prove multiple thing, thanks for entertaining me 😆
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
Please define A well scenario, because in all of yours hayabusa can magically be hit while in teleportation and can't dodge anything, so tell me what's well?
So now when Hayabusa gets hit or can't dodge something means magic is involved 🙄
Atleast it was many times more realistic then your "tekken will fight each other and will wait untill Ryu kills them"
If Ryu was say facing all twenty or so at once he can use them as shields. Having more numbers can be a disadvantage especially with a ninja. He can teleport right in their faces and throw one of them up in the air and then throw another into the one in the air by teleporting and then pile drive another one in the air by teleporting and then teleporting again.
Plus if Ryu teleports behind Kazuya, how is Kazuya even going to focus on him?
Also with a Spartan in the game that can use plasma grenades and also enter stealth mode does not mean a sure success rate of the cast of DOA4 beating the cast of Tekken?
Now in the game both Ryu and Kasumi can teleport, and these are ninjas.
Originally posted by Sam Z
OH LOL MY GOD😆😆
Just found this, must be "intro" you was talking about.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BA4evayEOrQ&search=tekken%203First we see Jin standing in some mystical red place, then we see Jun, then we see Kazuya healthy and smiling who actually was lieing dead in the volcano or in g corporation by that time, then we see dark silhouette of Ogre holding something dark that is three times bigger than his own head.
First of all we see no flash, no boddy and no blood and this black thing is really bigger than Ogre's head and it might be anything. "Hair" you was talking about are not moving like something solid and they are are bent a little to the left even though they are supposed to hang straight down.
Second this is a short video for ARCADE MODE, it was made just for show like video of Jin training in Tekken 6, because Jin punching camera is hardly something from tekken story. So if this is your undebatable prove of her being dead then I must dissapoint you.
Thats comming from a guy who thinks Devil Within is Mainstream Tekken canon... 🙄
Originally posted by Sam Z
How? Strongly and in the face, It's really sometimes hard to understand you. He can't be hit while he teleports but between teleportations he can. So what's your point?
DUMBASS how are yoshi and raven gonna get past his art of the ice storm, since they are the only ones who can pursue him while he teleports, so answer.
Originally posted by Sam Z
I want to debate Ryu vs Tekken and Ryu vs Kazuya, and I've been doing it for entire thread. But tell me [B]what's the point of trying to convince you that Kazuya can beat Ryu if you can't even except that they all together can beat Ryu? [/B]
That made no sense, obviously I'm debating you on rather tekken can or can't but were also trying to see if kazuya can take ryu 1 on 1. if you quit that argument tell me now.
Originally posted by Sam Z
I'm not running from the question like you do, I just go step by step, I will return to Ryu vs Kazuya when you admitt that Ryu can't beat all tekken because givving proof and reasons of Kazuya alone makes no sense when you debate someone who doesn't even excepts entire tekken cast proofs and reasons. Is that so hard to understand? [/B]
And your full of shit sam z, I never accepted ryu can be beaten by tekken and you still posted arguments for ryu vs kazuya 1 on 1. But now that I've gone indeptth with my argument you won't debate kazuya vs ryu 1 on 1, just say you forfeit your argument if you don't wanna debate them 1 on 1.
Originally posted by Sam Z
Actually you asked for proofs of teleportation combined with ki manipulation and I like 20 times told you the are no such characters, but you moron, as usually ignored it. I also told you that ki + teleportation doesn't mean a sh!t in fight with over 20 characters with differant powers including simillar to Ryu's. Then you asked me to give proofs of Ogre distance attack, i gave and now you say you except it but before you was whining for more proofs.doh
You just contradicted yourself how are they similar to ryu if they don't have teleportation with ki manipulation as a matter of fact you said ogre has teleportation and distance attacks but now magically their is no one in tekken that has both. and why did you say "Actually" of course I asked for teleportation combined with ki you even quoted me saying it on that specific post man your dumb.
Originally posted by Sam Z
Haven't you ever though that our problem is that YOU are idiot and not me? I know I make a lot of grammar mistakes and spelling mistakes but atleast people understand me. How the hell am I supposed to understand this "you said kazuya, you never said kazuya..."?😕 It was devil, i never denied that, actually it was me who told you about that ending. wtf are you talking about?🤨
Sam Z do you really want me to go back and post your grammatical errors, are you that desperate you stoop so low as to pointing out a typo's?
Originally posted by Sam Z
He can escape once or twice, and then? You think he'll be able to stay of Kazuya's sight for whole the fight? Especially if Kazuya flies circles and Ryu has to fight not to hide. Sorry but all your "teleportation win" is even bad argument for fighting Kazuya only, I'm not even talking about all other characters.
So now you feel you can debate kazuya vs ryu, and why does hryu have to hide I told you ryu can reappear and attack simultaneously. so the moment kazuya fires tk ryu teleports and kazuya is hit. it's that simple.
Originally posted by Sam Z
All ways of over 20 characters? 🙂 I don't spend the whole day on this forum, you know. The fact is that every character can kill him with atleast two ways, I'm not saying it will work with everybody because he might avoid it but they have WAYS, means physical ability to do it. Are you going to argue that too? 🙄
So now your saying just because you have 20 you win, your basing your entire argument on numbers without explaining why. like I said before hayabusa's is versatile enough to win his super speed will allow him to dodge a majority of the attacks and the rest he can always teleport. he has distance attacks that are freakin powerful so he doesn't have to get too close but even if he does he has hand to ahnd combat skills on par with the best tekken fighters combined that with the fact he's used to fighting at a numerical disadvantage (60-100 vs ryu) so give me a better argument than you whining about numbers.
Originally posted by Sam ZNot raven, but many your posts were based on his ability to teleport and to attack as a "proof" that he can beat them all so I address everything right, I address it to you since it was your opinion, not to one of your posts. As for being misinformed buddy, your asks to prove some things speak for themselvs. Like asking for prove that Paul defeated Ogre and that Yoshi can teleport because it is his basic attack and especially speaks for it self your frase that Ryu can beat all at the same time, so cut the crap about misinformation.
And I told you teleportation plus ki techniques were a bad argument and changed it so why bring it up again.Your changing the subject at hand in this particular post, we were talking about you being misinformed about doa since you asked proof that hayabusa can teleport and you replied "this coming from a guy that asked if raven can teleport" and now you mention yoshi's teleport so I'll say it again since your dumb. Ryu's teleportation like I said is done waaaay more frequent than ravens and yoshi's. plus 2nd zen told you it's a breeze to do so again how is not knowing yoshi and raven can teleport equally misinformed to not knowing hayabusa can teleport ?
Originally posted by Sam Z
You can take it as a special way of debating with fanboys, all your arguments you first time mentioned on previous page and I already responded on them. But your main argument that he can beat all you was saying for over 14 pages so it IS your main argument and you first have to prove it or even better admitt you were wrong because if you even can't take reasons about all tekken characters at the same time you would never take any reason about Kazuya alone, even if I'd give many links, reaons and proofs, so first try to tackle your fanboyism and then you'll have a point.
It's your way if bullshitting if you wanted me to debate kazuya vs tekken first why did you bring that shitty tk argument in ryu vs kazuya 1 on1. as a matter of fact why did you debate kazuay vs ryu 1 on 1 in the first place. your lying and making excuses up.
Originally posted by Sam Z
First was that you say i never pay attention to videos someone shows me and then you give an example of tekken 3 intro that was actually givven by me.
You never want to quote because you know your lying, please quote me where I said someone other than you provided the link to the tekken 3 intro.
Originally posted by Sam Z
Second I laughed because not you nor anyone could ever point me on any head in the INTRO because there was no head, when I finally realised he was talking about short arcade mode video I commented it and I have all reasons to laugh because it is not my problem that people say "INTRO" instead of "arcade mode video".
several people told you that juns head was on the video, and you disagree just like I didn't show you hayabusa teleporting right
Originally posted by Sam Z
And third thing I was laughing about was you coz you are like an idiot repeat everything you hear on this thread and pretend it is your common knowledge. 😂
Is it because you know me?....No
Is it because you quote me?.....No
Is it because you figured it out with your advanced intellect... 😆 hell no
4. So what is it?... You ASS-U-ME
Originally posted by Sam Z
Why? you work for tecmo? lol
Now you base yourself on what was stated in kmc when i base myself on tekken game we are debating about. You again want Kazuya's attack to be slow and visible even though in ending it was clear it hit Heihachi instantly as he focused on him. Now you are supposed to point me at my mistake of using word "look" instead of "focus" in my previous post. That's the best that you can do...
First of all I never said it was slow, I said hayabusa can evade it. second you said in a earlier post when I asked you. "If jin and kazuya have the same attack why is jins tk visible and kazuya's isn't" you responded it was a different attack, I asked you to prove it but you never answered. so I guess you work at namco.
Originally posted by Sam Z
lol ok looldude, satsujin, and if you want actually to know what majority think just look at the poll, Shin Remy just realised you was talking about all at the same time vs Ryu and desided to quit because realised that supporting such fanboy as you would embarrass even him.
Can you quote shin remy agreeing with you and how many tekkens actually posted as opposed to voted? 14 voted but 5 responded real brave guys you have.
Originally posted by Sam Z
lol getting rid? So discussing it for 14 pages means getting read? Givving feats, many links, reasons means getting rid? Unlike you I wasn't running of my own words,.
I posted my first link before you, on page 2 here:
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
Ryu fought and killed vigor the origin of all hate, What God did jin fight ogre? 😆look:http://youtube.com/watch?v=C0TJTWfDu68&search=ryu%20hayabusa
Originally posted by Sam Z
you said he pwnes them all and then I had to ask you to explain how, for damn 8 pages and you couldn't explain it but when you finally dared to all you could come up with was "ki + teleportation" 😂 and then you pretended you proved your point and started again dragging it into Ryu vs Kazuya only bacause otherwise you wouldn't stand a single chanse in this debate.
Your lying this is the first thing you posted
Originally posted by Sam Z
Not true, if Ryu is not allowed to use weapons then Jin would beat him. Ryu fought demons, Jin fought God. I'm not even talking about Devil Jin.
You never explained why jin wins, you just said "Jin beats GOD"
I actually explained some reasons why ryu wins:
1st page:
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
Guns have no effect on Hayabusa 😐
When you bitched about ryu having his own game and said yoshi could perform his feats I made alist before you even posted any feats again
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
Ryu's DOA feats:Teleportation at anytime he wants.
-Ki blast that can destroy aircraft.
-Dodging bullets, missles.
-Defeating Gohyakumine Bankotsu-bo (Tengu) a being capable of covering the world in choas, ryu single handly defeated him with relative ease.
You finally posted a real reason why jin would win on page 3 of doa vs tekken.
Originally posted by Sam Z
I'll repeat it for you once and again, I don't mind debatin Ryu vs Kazuya and 80% of my posts were actually about this fight and sometimes i was asking for you to comment you RYUPWNESALL crap and you was always running from this question, now you are SO desperate that you are trying to make it look as if I was avoiding your questions and discussion but the truth is that' what you do, not me. .
Your only argument for kazuya winning is his tk, I told you teleportation could dodge it but you disagreed and still haven't said why, so if your okay with kazuya vs ryu explain how his laser beam can counter 4 blast of electricity atacking him all over from art of inzuna, getting speed blitz anywhere in the arena and an opponent who can move anywhere in the vicinity instanly and can attack while he's reappering at the sametime???
Originally posted by Sam Z
lol struggled? Actually you struggled to give an explanation. Your beliefes of that are so hillarious (and everyone can see that) that you have to back them up with something reasonable, and you yet couldn't do that.No like the proof:
of Yoshi's teleportation
of Raven's teleportation
of Paul defeating Ogre
of distance attack
of Kazuya's powers
his feats
Jin destroying forrest and etcHow about your proves?🙂
of Ryu beating all at the same time?
of him being faster than Yoshi?
of KOing T-rex?
I can continue.
-I showed you proof of ryu being faster than yoshi ( iberianwarrior), when can yoshi leave after images and speed blitz???
-What would jan lee koing a t-rex have to do with ryu vs tekken???
-I agve you proof through out the thread
go ahead continue posting what I allegedly didn't prove.
Originally posted by Sam Z
And I said that it is impressive feat of Ogre's distance attack and not that it is impressive coz helicopters were a terrible threat, i never said they were.
How is it an impressive feat, yes you proved he has distance attacks on par with ryu but how is the feat impressive???
Originally posted by Sam Zlol I did what? You many times said that teleportation means he'll take them all at the same time, so I laugh at your opinion. And eveyone else would, if they read what I read. You aked if he can teleport and I gave you proofs that he can.
Cool so quote me these many times when I said teleportation alone would lead hayabusa to victory, and you changed your argument I told you hayabusa teleports more than raven thus it's obvious, this all started when you called me a fanboy for asking about ravens teleportation and I told you it's not as obvious since raven does it far less than hayabusa, and now you cahnge my words to make it seem that I was referring to him beating the entire cas because he teleports more than raven.
Originally posted by Sam Z
I'll do it as if I was talking with a kid, maybe you'll understand then. Jin is one of Tekken characters and you said Ryu can destroy them all with easy, then I asked you to show Ryu destroying something that is comparable to atleast one tekken character - to Jin, instead of that you use ABC logic that you call lame. You say Ayane destroyed three skyscrappers and Ryu is the strongest DOA character. I admitted Ayane's feat is not less impressive but I wanted not her feat of destroying buildings but Ryu's feat of destroying something to compare with Jin's feat. Is it so hard to understand?
so now your bringing jini back into this, remeber what I said before when you brung up jin destroying a forest. hayabusa destroyed a GOD I told you that since the second page of DOA vs TEKKEN you are dumb.
Originally posted by Sam Z
lol there were no waves but Blue Nocturne has third eye and sees what we mortals could never see. He sees waves even when there are none of them. I call it schizophrenia...
Yeah, and actually there was NO head in the INTRO, but anyway...
Coming from a guy who like an idiot repeats everything he reads on the forum from others even though they were wrong. I bet you haven't even watched the intro that time coz if you did you would've see there was no head there.
Just like there was no teleportation in the link I gave you showing hayabusa teleporting, hworang's ending show's jin blasting a wave at the screen (When he raises his hand the screen bends ) your just too blind as always to see it.
Originally posted by Sam Z
OMG 😆 I was joking when i said about authors forgot but it is true!!! lol You really think so! My God 😆 You are SO stupid.
First of all Kazuya's ending was before Hwoarang's so if authors really made a mistake then this mistake - waves, because ORIGINALLY there were no waves. But believing they forgot or made a mistake means you are evn dumber than i thought.
Now you are gonna build your point that Ryu will win and can dodge this attack on that authors forgot to put waves there lol You are killing me!
And I can tell your joking by soley looking at your text, your real smart sam-z oh I was joking, it was so obvious right 🙄
and you still haven't explained how he can't dodge it by teleporting?
Originally posted by Sam Z
Unless you assume he'll teleport on other continent the answer is - easilly.
Easily huh, so exactly how explain???
Originally posted by Sam Z
No problem, but the funny thing is that you was playing this game for entire thread. That was your only respone for my questions "prove" that's why I on purpose started acting the same way.
You didn't prove ogre can teleport
Originally posted by Sam Z
So now when Hayabusa gets hit or can't dodge something means magic is involved 🙄
Atleast it was many times more realistic then your "tekken will fight each other and will wait untill Ryu kills them"
no sam-z please define a scenerio that is good in your standards, 2nd zen just gave you one tell me how it's flawed.