Marka Ragnos+Shimmra+Hanharr vs NJO Luke Skywalker+Emperor Palpatine+Exar Kun

Did you read what i said EVERYBODY IN THERE PRIME MARKA RAGNOS TO DUMBASS
RAGNOS HAS ENOUGH PHYSICAL POWER TO CRUSH KUN, BESIDES HIS KNOWLEDGE OF THE SITH ARTS BY TRILLIONS OF LIGHTYEARS OUTCLASSED KUN ,SINCE SADOW PASSED DOWNED ONLY LITTLE STUFF TO NADD,NADD BARELY TAUGHT KUN,SO BY THAT HIS WOULD PROBABLY USE KUN AMULET AGAINST HIM BY BLOWING IT TO HELL

lol ? Exar Kun studied much of Sadow's (He was second to Ragnos) stuff and mastered it to the extent of being able to tool reveared Jedi grandmasters and rip through Temple walls and flesh. Ragnos will beat him eventually, but Luke and Palpatine ground the other two.

if you're talking about vodo this has been discussed before
he was not a grand master and nothing says he was even that good (kun repeatedly tried to turn him as he was toying around)
and kun studyed hardly any of what sadow knew (although he admittedly still studeid a lot

besides sadow was pissed scared of ragnos even after his death(obeyed an order from his ghost) and we're talking about him at his prime not his deathbed (which he still was unchallenged)

Originally posted by Escape81
Actually:

Kun could at least hold Ragnos off for a little while.

Luke WTFpwns Shimmra.

Palpatine WTFpwns Hanharr.

So, if Kun dies, Luke engages Ragnos - holds him off a bit longer, and Palpatine transports his ass into outer space where dies in the vaccuum.

Shimrra actually gave NJO Luke a very hard time. I doubt he's that much better by DN.

Before or after Luke fought an army?

Originally posted by Escape81
No, no, no, and no.

1. NJO Luke fought an army of Vongs and then owned Shimmra. I'm sorry, but Shimmra's going down. He is WTF-pwned.

2. The Wookie from KOTOR II, no matter how insane he is, is not going to own any incarnation of Sidious. Sidious is quicker, has a weapon which can slice through flesh, and he has the Force - and a frightening grasp of it, I might add.

Hanharr bites the big one. Badly.

3. Kun may die. He may not. I think that Kun, Luke, and DE Palpatine could destroy Ragnos.

1.) Luke nearly lost to Shimmra. Fighting the vong was no big deal considering he just used his emarald lightning to instakill. Luke and Shimmra would fight for a while.

2.) WTF? The wookie gets owned by sith lightning. Fight over.

3.) Kun vs Ragnos would also take a while possibly even a stalemate.

The way I see it. Palps makes quick work of the wookie. It would be best if DE palps helped Exar with Ragnos because he has next to zero experience fightning the Vong and would not know what to do. Exar and Palps kill Ragnos and then they take on Shimrra.

The only reason Luke nearly lost was because of Shim using the lightsaber and Luke having just battled his entire army.

Doesn't Luke use his EL and kill them all?

Anyway..point is Shimrra is not bantha fodder. Luke fighting Shimrra is just as complicated as Exar fighting Ragnos.

Luke uses EL once on a slayer...he clears out the entire levels of the ship practically on his own

Originally posted by Admiral Akbar
1.) Luke nearly lost to Shimmra. Fighting the vong was no big deal considering he just used his emarald lightning to instakill. Luke and Shimmra would fight for a while.

2.) WTF? The wookie gets owned by sith lightning. Fight over.

3.) Kun vs Ragnos would also take a while possibly even a stalemate.

The way I see it. Palps makes quick work of the wookie. It would be best if DE palps helped Exar with Ragnos because he has next to zero experience fightning the Vong and would not know what to do. Exar and Palps kill Ragnos and then they take on Shimrra.

1. Um... Luke fought an army that stood between him and Shimmra, and he still defeated the Vong Overlord. Legacy of The Force Luke would defeat Shimmra. It may take a few minutes.

2. Um... you and I agree, then.

3. Okay... we still agree. Then, Luke and Palpatine help Kun own Ragnos.

I think Kun and Palps would kill Ragnos first before Shimrra drops. Then assist Luke.

How did Luke kill the army exactly? The force. Lightsaber? How..

Thats great but as you can see the thread says NJO Luke.

Sorry my responses are out of order.

Presumably saber? That's what he used during most of the entire part of the book.

How? Vong are lightsaber resistant.

Since when? I could give you about fifteen Vong killed or maimed by sabers just off the top of my head

Since The foot soldiers of the Yuuzhan Vong wear living crabs for armor. The crab is quite powerful on defense, able to deflect even a lightsaber under many circumstances. The armor can also regenerate.

That never stopped Luke...just pierce the armor with a strong enough attack or attack where the armor isn't covering

Thats hard to spot on a non-force being.

Well, after five years warring with them...

So, he had 5 years of experience and he could attack the weak spots of the Vong making quick work of them. I dont think Luke really struggled at all when fighting them.

Ragnos is the strongest individually, but i doubt he can hold both Kun and Sidious before Shimrra drops and rapes him.