Marka Ragnos+Shimmra+Hanharr vs NJO Luke Skywalker+Emperor Palpatine+Exar Kun

Started by Razielim7 pages

Dark Empire II is EU.

Originally posted by Count Kent
Oh you're talking about the non-EU version. Oh right. However this is a forum for the EU version of star wars.

That's from Dark Empire, you tool. It is EU - it takes place after the movies, it's a comic - it's EU, troll. Oh, and here's another where even the omniscient narrator states him as "Emperor Palpatine":

Are you done making zero sense, troll?

The evrsion of DE that you are reffering to is non-EU.

Show us this EU version then.

Sorry, there's only ever been one version of DE, trolly boy

Nuh huh.

However let's drop this discussion.

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Show us this EU version then.
Originally posted by Count Kent
The evrsion of DE that you are reffering to is non-EU.

What are you talking about?! There is only one version...actually you're right that "evrsion" of DE is wrong, but that version is right. Learn to spell, and know your facts before you type - better yet before you use any form of communication.

Seriously, quit trolling just because you were wrong.

Oh snap.

Originally posted by Count Kent
However let's drop this discussion.

Everything other than the movies is considered Expanded Universe material. Comics, books, blah blah.

Dark Empire is EU.

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Ragnos's team is simply obliterated, plain and simple

Ye except, Luke and possibly Kun die in the process

Originally posted by Deception
Ye except, Luke and possibly Kun die in the process

Why would Luke or Kun die over Sidious? Not to mention, it'd only be two on three because Hanharr is a non-factor.

Mm-hmm.

Hanharr is almost a non-factor. Luke, Kun, and Palpatine could take him with mere ease, even individually. Shimmra would be a challenge, but I think that Luke, Kun, and Palpatine could eventually best him as well, individually.

So, let's say if Kun or Luke keep Ragnos distracted, Palpatine would annihilate Hanharr. Kun or Luke could take Shimmra (as could Palpatine), and then when Shimmra and Hanharr are down for the count, the three WTFpwn Ragnos.

Hell - given the circumstances, Palpatine could just launch a Force Storm at Ragnos when he's done with Hanharr and then the rest of them team up and pwn Shimmra.

Either way Ragnos's team isn't likely to win, in my opinion.

Originally posted by Deception
Ye except, Luke and possibly Kun die in the process

Um... no. All of them have a risk of dying, and Luke and Kun are completely par with Palpatine.

Originally posted by Escape81
Mm-hmm.

Hanharr is almost a non-factor. Luke, Kun, and Palpatine could take him with mere ease, even individually. Shimmra would be a challenge, but I think that Luke, Kun, and Palpatine could eventually best him as well, individually.

So, let's say if Kun or Luke keep Ragnos distracted, Palpatine would annihilate Hanharr. Kun or Luke could take Shimmra (as could Palpatine), and then when Shimmra and Hanharr are down for the count, the three WTFpwn Ragnos.

Hell - given the circumstances, Palpatine could just launch a Force Storm at Ragnos when he's done with Hanharr and then the rest of them team up and pwn Shimmra.

Either way Ragnos's team isn't likely to win, in my opinion.

Ah, I would just like to point out a few things. I agree that Hanharr is a
non-factor, for sure. Now, Shimrra would be a challenge, I believe It could go either way, but most likely Luke and Exar could put the overlord down. I however dont think palpatine could come to close to beating Shimrra. Reason is he is a terrible duelist and his top arsenal is force powers which have no effect on Shimrra.

Ragnos does get WTFpwned.

Palpatine's an exceptional duelist, actually. Though Luke would be able to destroy Shimrra if he used the force to improve himself or if he was fresh to the fight

Palpatine compared to other jedi/sith he is a bad duelist. Lets recap.

Mace vs Sidious- Sidious gets beat and loses his saber

Yoda vs Palpatine- 2 min of saber fighting and then palpatine is done with it. He continues the fight with the force. It obvious he could not beat Yoda in a saber duel, must be why he blasted yoda's saber out of his hands.

Luke vs Sidious- They engage in a saber duel, Sidious ends up on the floor.

Lets face it, Palpatine is a great force user, no doubt about it. Lightsaber skills though? Minimal.

I dont understand what you mean by improve himself? Make his physical strength better?

Also, You said once that Luke uses very little energy because he is so powerful. I dont thing an army would make him exhausted. At best he is a bit fatigued, but then again he could heal himself through the force.

Considering he's facing two of the supreme duelists the galaxy's ever seen, especially when one of those losses is heavily debateable. And Sidious had beaten Luke once before, Luke won the second duel because he knew if he lost, Palpatine would have Leia and her son

Yes, and Luke is considered one of those supreme duelists, yet he could barely make use of his lightsaber till he decapitated Shimrra. I firmly believe Shimrra could take Palpatine.

Getting his lightsaber kicked out of his hands is not up for debate. He was owned in the duel. People dont "plan" to be disarmed during a fight.
Especially against Mace. The same guy who disarmed Jango and then beheaded him.

You are forgetting that they are all in their prime, their peak of power, and that means this is DN Luke and DE Sidious and Regular ass darkside Kun, and regular ass raged wookie man, and shimmra is in his book stage, and Ragnos is the ultra uber ape that he really wants to be on the inside...