Dooku's Skill

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Originally posted by Sin Harvest
Alright first, don't post four times in a row.

F*ck you. If there are that many comments for me to reply to when I return to a forum, then I will reply to them accordingly. I don't see a moderator flag under your name, so tell it to someone who gives a damn.

Originally posted by Sin Harvest
Second the ROTS novelization isn't cannon because a lot contradicts the movies which is the ultimate form of cannon.

I agree, the novelization is not as canon as the movie, but, EU fanboys are keen to point out that when it is filling in or providing information not in the movie (so it can't be contradictory) then it is valid. There was nothing in the movie that suggested that Dooku was testing Anakin (although the whole 'throne room' was hardly a jailcell, but clearly an observation area, so that in itself is telling that something was not quite as it seemed) therefor, the novelization's view that Dooku was under orders (something I'm only going on what others have said, I haven't read the novelization) not to kill Anakin is a valid one (and can be backed up by Dooku's 'test duel' with Assaj, which was for Palpatine's benefit)

Originally posted by Sin Harvest
Anakin defeated Dooku fair and square

He did not. When you are dueling someone, you are supposed to be fighting them with a bladed weapon. It is not honorable to grab a person's weapon arm to imobilize their weapon so you can then use your own weapon against them. The end result of the duel was this: A 23 year old guy physically overpowered an old man in his 80s. Is that fair and square? Is beheading an unarmed (literally) and defensive prisoner honorable or fair and square? I thought not.

Originally posted by Sin Harvest
meaning Anakin is better then Dooku. Not a hard one to figure out.

Anakin is physically stronger than Dooku (not a hard one to figure out given their ages) That does not mean he is a better sword fighter, because he was not. Dooku cut Anakin's arm off while they were 'crossing blades', Anakin had to resort to grabbing Dooku and imobilizing his lightsaber to cut off his hands, and none of his swings (even when he lost his temper) touched Dooku, so he is clearly not as good a swordsman as the Count.
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Originally posted by Lightsnake
Oh, and the SITH live by a specific code?

Dooku lived by a specific code as goverened by his arrogant and socially elitist attitude.

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Oh, and the SITH live by a specific code? This is why Obi-wan knocked Anakin down and swung a saber down at him?

Obi-Wan is not a Sith.

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Please, this is fanboyism at its finest! Read the entire section: Dooku had to fight seriously just to stay alive when the plan fell apart!

Indeed, but the plan was not originally for him to kill Anakin.

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Anakin outduelued Dooku

No, he did not. Your following comment:

Originally posted by Lightsnake
overpowered him and grabbed him...an adequate fighting manuever.

Not an acceptable duelling manuever. Try grabbing an opponent in any fencing tournament and see how quickly that gets you disqualified. In the novelization, Dooku expressed distaste at Anakin's use of an artificial arm, commenting that a gentleman would have learned to duel one-handed, showing that he had a specific view of honorable conduct from his own elitist opinion.

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Oh and Dooku used lightning in the middle of his duel with Tholme and Sora Bulq, you were saying?

Sorry, where on screen did Dooku ever use lightning against his opponent? This may be an EU forum, but the EU does not take precedence over the movies for accuracy. The movies and CW series did not show Dooku using lightning during a duel, so that is the majority evidence of Dooku's techniques.

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Originally posted by Sin Harvest
Not to mention Mace was planning to kill Palpatine even though it's against the Jedi Code to kill someone. Mace could have let him live but instead he was planning on slaying the Chancellor.

Mace's intentions were disgusting, because he felt the Jedi Council should take control of the Senate following Palpatine's removal from office. Palpatine pointed out that the Jedi and the Sith both craved more power, and in that respect, he was correct. Even Yoda did not entirely agree with Mace's suggestion and said that such a line of thought would take them to a 'dark place'.

Lightsnake Senior Member

yeah, and Dooku's code was elitist, hypocritical and genocidal.

Yeah, but do the Sith live under a code? And that's great Jedi code from Obi-wan.

Dooku fought seriously against Anakin because he realized his life was at stake.

Oh, gee! A controlled sports match compared to a fight to the death, brilliant comparison.

Hypocrite! Where does Dooku mocking Anakin's arm happen in the movies? Dooku uses lightning in a duel in an official source, end discussion. And he uses it against Anakin. And Obi-wan. And Ventress. I'm sorry, to use some pieces of EU as evidence and then discount others that contradict you is plain hypocrisy

Rampant ox Senior Member

OK. For the record:
-Dooku is arrogant. He sees himself as better than everyone else. He has a great deal of pride, nobility etc. Because of this he fights fairly.

-He is below Yoda and Sids but only marginally. He probably has better duelling skills than Sids as well.

-He was scared of Sids. But he wasnt shitting himself when in his presence. He merely felt old. I dontknow the wording. Look at Escape81 post. And this doesnt make Sids stronger than him.

-It wasnt a fair fight in ROTS for various reasons that I posted before. the scales were clearly in Anakins favor.

-At the beginning of the fight he could have beaten them both. However he decided to be arrogant. Because of this Anakin became stronger than the Count predicted. The Count physically couldnt keep up with Anakin when he was angry. However this is because of the age difference. It DOES NOT make Anakin a better fighter.

-Takingout Obi-Wan sapped a fair amount of the Counts energy.

These would be the lists of strength:

Force power:
Yoda
Sids
Dooku
Mace
Anakin

Saber skills:
Yoda
Dooku
Sids/Mace (I dont know which ones better)
Anakin

Anakin is at the bottom because he has the potential but hasnt fulfilled it yet. When he becomes Darth Vader he could probabl beat any of them though. There is also a final list I would like to add:

Physical strength:
Anakin
Mace
Yoda
Sids
Dooku

This list shows why Anakin bet Dooku and Mace bet the Count. it is because the sith duo arent physically strong enough to take on an opponent so fit. They easily have more skill, but fatigue has alot to do with a fight.

Escape81 Restricted

Dude, it doesn't matter!

Dooku can't take Yoda or Sidious. Not unless the environment was extremely favorable to him. He can't take them in an all out fight. Mace is roughly his equal - and I can argue that Anakin bested him in a sheer lightsaber-to-lightsaber confrontation.

Dooku is good, but seriously. He's no match for Yoda or Sidious. Mace, perhaps. Anakin, perhaps.

Rampant ox Senior Member

Originally posted by Escape81

Dooku can't take Yoda or Sidious. Not unless the environment was extremely favorable to him. He can't take them in an all out fight. Mace is roughly his equal - and I can argue that Anakin bested him in a sheer lightsaber-to-lightsaber confrontation.

Dooku is good, but seriously. He's no match for Yoda or Sidious. Mace, perhaps. Anakin, perhaps.

You finally get it. That is what I have been trying to say the whole time. Im not arguing that the Count can beat Yoda/Sids, only that the difference between them is slim. And Dooku and Mace are on par and Dooku is better than Anakin. hopefully we can now finally agree and end this thread.

Lightsnake Senior Member

The distance between Dooku and Yoda or Sidious is NOT marginal whatoever. Dooku is simply not on their level

overlord OD'd

Originally posted by Rampant ox
You finally get it. That is what I have been trying to say the whole time. Im not arguing that the Count can beat Yoda/Sids, only that the difference between them is slim. And Dooku and Mace are on par and Dooku is better than Anakin. hopefully we can now finally agree and end this thread.
Yeah, the difference is slim huh? Maybe Anakin even stands a chance against Yoda then! Well no.. Dooku isn't on their level, Mace however DID come close (not Dooku, you idiot) because of the results of fights we've seen in an actual movie.
Dumbass post by Darth Vious:
I don't think I saw Anakin hold Dooku's arms, I did see Anakin hold Dooku's arms. Re-watch the scene and see for yourself, and that goes for anyone else who thinks Anakin beat Dooku through superior fencing skill. Holding someone's arms to imobilize their blade while you slice their hands off is not fencing.

Well then you must be delusional. What we see is Anakin pushing down Dooku's lightsaber, then sliding over it and chopping off the hands.
Even if he did manage to do something so dangerous as grabbing his arms, then Dooku still was pretty stupid to let that happen or maybe he just didn't have the concentration as Anakin due to the force.
Honestly, what you are whining about makes no difference at all.
Another dumbass post by Darth Vious:
Was Anakin violent towards Padme, Yes or No?
Yes, he was, he Force choked her. They were married, so that makes him a wifebeater.

Can you please show us more evidence that you hate Anakin and idolize Dooku? Or maybe you should just consider logging out and never returning to scream pointless stuff about characters.
YOU FAIL.

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Originally posted by Lightsnake
yeah, and Dooku's code was elitist, hypocritical and genocidal.

It doesn't matter what others might feel about Dooku's code, the fact was he had one and stuck to it.

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Yeah, but do the Sith live under a code?

I think so, but I don't know what it is.

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Dooku fought seriously against Anakin because he realized his life was at stake.

Dooku 'fought seriously' against Assaj too, but it was still never his intention to kill her.

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Oh, gee! A controlled sports match compared to a fight to the death, brilliant comparison.

I'd previously also compared the Jedi to the Samurai, but that clearly went way over your head. You're right, it is a brilliant comparison for the following reasons:
[list]Dooku thought he was providing Anakin with a Trail for Palpatine's benefit (as with Assaj) He had been told not to kill him, and that Palpatine would stand in if Anakin gained the upper hand. As would happen during a sporting contest[/list]
[list]Sporting contests have rules. The Jedi have rules. Dooku also had rules. Physically immobilizing someone's weapon arm is cowardly, so would be beneath the Jedi (and Dooku) and against the rules of a contest (which Dooku thought his duel with Anakin, to a degree, was)[/list]

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Hypocrite! Where does Dooku mocking Anakin's arm happen in the movies? Dooku uses lightning in a duel in an official source, end discussion. And he uses it against Anakin. And Obi-wan. And Ventress. I'm sorry, to use some pieces of EU as evidence and then discount others that contradict you is plain hypocrisy

Re-read my comments. I've said or done nothing hypocritical. It's been said before that EU is only canon when it does not contradict the movies. If something is not in the movies, then it cannot contradict the movie. There was nothing in the movie saying that Dooku was under orders not to kill Anakin (although why would a prisoner be held in an observation area rather than a brig or cell?) but there was in the novelization, just as the comments Dooku made about Anakin (which were not mocking, but distainful. Dooku was not mocking Anakin, but as an elitist, considered himself above him.) where not in the movie but where in the novelization, therefore, there is no contradiction, so those elements are canon, and there is no hypocrisy in that.
To address the other points:

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Dooku uses lightning in a duel in an official source, end discussion.

Saying end discussion does not make it so, because there are more official sources where Dooku did not use lightning in a duel. What he may have done in one novel, does not outweigh everything he did on screen

Originally posted by Lightsnake
And he uses it against Anakin.

Before they crossed blades, not during the duel.

Originally posted by Lightsnake
And Obi-wan.

Before they crossed blades, not during the duel.

Originally posted by Lightsnake
And Ventress.

Before they crossed blades, not during the duel.

Is the point becoming clear?

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Originally posted by overlord

Well then you must be delusional. What we see is Anakin pushing down Dooku's lightsaber, then sliding over it and chopping off the hands.

Re-watch the scene again. Infact, watch it four more times in slow motion before you even reply to this post, just so you actually see what happens. Anakin grabs Dooku's arms then does what you wrote. If you watch the scene properly, you will see him doing this. It's a side-viewed 2 shot with Dooku (might be Christopher Lee, might be his stunt double) clearly leaning forwards at the waist while Anakin grabs his arms.

Originally posted by overlord
Even if he did manage to do something so dangerous as grabbing his arms, then Dooku still was pretty stupid to let that happen or maybe he just didn't have the concentration as Anakin due to the force.

Are you serious? Do you seriously think that an old man in his 80s has the physical strength to grapple with a guy in his early 20s?? Anakin grabbed Dooku, who was then not strong enough to get out of the grip. That's just a case of youth over age, the skill of the fighters has absolutely nothing to do with it.

Originally posted by overlord
Can you please show us more evidence that you hate Anakin and idolize Dooku?

I don't hate Anakin, infact, I think he's a great character. That doesn't mean that I can't accept the fact that Dooku is simply a more skilled swordsman than Anakin. Also, you still have not answered the question, let's try again:
Was Anakin violent towards (his wife) Padme? Yes or No.

Originally posted by overlord
YOU FAIL.

The only failure here, is you, as you have not been able to backup or support your spammy comments in any way.😆

Lightsnake Senior Member

No, Dooku just played with Asajj. He fought for his life against Anakin and fought to the best of his abilities.

You know absolutely nothing about real fighting. Sorry, but grabbing someone after you've outmuscled them totally with your style isn't cowardly. It's smart. And Dooku fought to the best of his abilities, case closed.

You. Are. A. Hypocrite: How does Dooku zapping Sora Bulq contradict the movies? Is Dooku's 'code' in the movies? He never mocks Anakin's arm in the movies, it can't exist. And sorry, no contradiction in what he did to Sora and Tholme! he used lightning on people who has intention of dueling him, some code. You can shut up now.

overlord OD'd

Originally posted by Darth Vious
Re-watch the scene again. Infact, watch it four more times in slow motion before you even reply to this post, just so you actually see what happens. Anakin grabs Dooku's arms then does what you wrote. If you watch the scene properly, you will see him doing this. It's a side-viewed 2 shot with Dooku (might be Christopher Lee, might be his stunt double) clearly leaning forwards at the waist while Anakin grabs his arms.

Are you serious? Do you seriously think that an old man in his 80s has the physical strength to grapple with a guy in his early 20s?? Anakin grabbed Dooku, who was then not strong enough to get out of the grip. That's just a case of youth over age, the skill of the fighters has absolutely nothing to do with it.

I don't hate Anakin, infact, I think he's a great character. That doesn't mean that I can't accept the fact that Dooku is simply a more skilled swordsman than Anakin. Also, you still have not answered the question, let's try again:
Was Anakin violent towards (his wife) Padme? Yes or No.

The only failure here, is you, as you have not been able to backup or support your spammy comments in any way.😆

Look who's calling who a spammer. And quit b!tching about Anakin having killed his wife, it's not exactly relevant to Dooku's skills or actually anything, it only indicates that you dissaprove his behavior and that you're still traumatised by it so you have to say dumbass stuff like "LIKE THE CHICKENSHIT WIFEBEATER THAT HE IS!! I like him though!", I'm glad you immediately make up an excuse though, not as if I care whether you like him or not.

And about Dooku not having the reaction skills to see Anakin getting him, or however Anakin outmanouvered him. He wouldn't have let that happen in the first place if he is so much more trained in using the force (what Borborad constantly says), apperantly he isn't in tune with the force enough to defend and back away enough. Anakin HAS better reaction skills apperantly.
You fail if you feel such a powerful urge to go against the movie. At least come up with better points.

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Originally posted by overlord
Look who's calling who a spammer. And quit b!tching about Anakin having killed his wife, it's not exactly relevant to Dooku's skills or actually anything

I'm, debating points with evidence to back them up, you are just trolling for a fight. Also, yes, Anakin's actions towards Padme are relevent, because they support the fact that he uses cowardly attacks against people who cannot defend themselves against them.

Originally posted by overlord
it only indicates that you dissaprove his behavior and that you're still traumatised by it so you have to say dumbass stuff like "LIKE THE CHICKENSHIT WIFEBEATER THAT HE IS!! I like him though!",

Do you aprove of domestic violence? I didn't say I liked Anakin, I said I thought he was a good character (as in not a 2 dimensional cut out of a character). As a person, I think he's essentially an arrogant bully, who like all abusers, immediately feels remorse for their actions yet nevertheless repeat them.

Originally posted by overlord
not as if I care whether you like him or not.

So why even mention it?

Originally posted by overlord
And about Dooku not having the reaction skills to see Anakin getting him, or however Anakin outmanouvered him. He wouldn't have let that happen in the first place if he is so much more trained in using the force (what Borborad constantly says), apperantly he isn't in tune with the force enough to defend and back away enough. Anakin HAS better reaction skills apperantly.

Anakin is in his early twenties, Dooku is in his 80s. Is it surprizing that Anakin is physically stronger?

Originally posted by overlord
You fail if you feel such a powerful urge to go against the movie. At least come up with better points.

I am failing at nothing, you are the one who is arguing agaist the movie. Have you watched the duel four times again yet? You're the one who is denying what is visible to anyone who watches the movie, not me.

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Originally posted by Lightsnake
No, Dooku just played with Asajj.

Yes

Originally posted by Lightsnake
He fought for his life against Anakin and fought to the best of his abilities.

Not according to the novelization.

Originally posted by Lightsnake
You know absolutely nothing about real fighting.

Really? I've been studying fencing and martial arts since I was eight (I'm twenty eight in October this year) How old are you, and how long have you been studying fencing and martial arts?

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Sorry, but grabbing someone after you've outmuscled them totally with your style isn't cowardly.

It is when you are supposed to be fighting them with a sword!!!

Originally posted by Lightsnake
And Dooku fought to the best of his abilities, case closed.

No, he did not.

Originally posted by Lightsnake
You. Are. A. Hypocrite: How does Dooku zapping Sora Bulq contradict the movies?

It might not contradict a filmed piece of action, but, it is different to all the other times Dooku used Force lightning on screen. You gave three examples of Dooku using lighting 'in a duel', and I pointed out (quite correctly) that he used the lightning before the blade to blade combat (duel) started. Just because he used Force lightning once in the middle of a lightsaber duel (I'd actually like to see the evidence of this if possible) that does not mean that he did so each time (because he did not) so it cannot be considered his 'standard' tactics. If anything, Dooku's standard tactic is to start off by trying to use Force lightning and when that fails, he uses his saber.

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Is Dooku's 'code' in the movies? He never mocks Anakin's arm in the movies, it can't exist.

Now you're just being stupid. It's been said that anything in the novelisation that does not directly contradict the movie (points of view etc) are considered canon. If Dooku's comments about Anakin's arm don't exist, then neither does your example of his use of Force lightning in the middle of a duel, so I think it is you who needs to shut up 🙂

Lightsnake Senior Member

You're bringing the novelization out? Use the whole thing or don't use it at all! Dooku abandoned the original plan and fought to the best of his abilities FOR HIS LIFE.

Great! Once again: Those are controlled circumstances, not DUELS TO THE DEATH WITH A SITH LORD! Sorry, but in a REAL FIGHT you're not 'supposed' to do anything except beat the other guy.

New Essential Chronology quote: Dooku fought for his life. In the novelization? Dooku fights to the best of his abilities as he realizes he will DIE if he doesn't. In the script, he's simply overpowered Your'e wrong, goodbye!

Because he used lightning when people CLEARLY INTENDED to duel him, riiiight...and go to swcomics.com and find Republic 72. Dooku zaps Sora in their duel, right...real honorable. Sorry, he uses it, the book's right, you're wrong, it contradicts nothing.

Hypocrite! And nope, Dooku never said it in the movie so it doesn't exist, too bad! I suppose if we use that in the novelization, we need to take the part in Dooku's OWN THOUGHTS that Anakin was the finest Djem So fighter he'd ever seen and he needs to fight with all his strength and ability to survive....but no, that might actually HURT your argument so of course you won't use it

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Originally posted by Lightsnake
You're bringing the novelization out? Use the whole thing or don't use it at all! Dooku abandoned the original plan and fought to the best of his abilities FOR HIS LIFE.

The novelization has been used as evidence that Dooku was under orders not to kill Anakin. I haven't read the entire thing, so I'm only going on what has already been said by others. The fact that you mention 'original plan', only supports my point that Dooku thought he was only going to be testing Anakin, as he did Assaj, so would not have been intending to kill him. If he abandoned that plan, then so be it, he might have been fighting to his fullest extent at a later point in the duel, but that still does nothing to change the evidence of the movie that none of Anakin's saber swing hit Dooku, and he only severed Dooku's hands after he had grabbed him.

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Great! Once again: Those are controlled circumstances, not DUELS TO THE DEATH WITH A SITH LORD! Sorry, but in a REAL FIGHT you're not 'supposed' to do anything except beat the other guy.

What are you refering to? If it's the points I made previously, then they only proved my point. Dooku thought that the original plan (as mentioned in the novelization) was to be testing Anakin, yes or no? He was told not to kill Anakin, yes or no? He was told Palpatine would help if Anakin got the advantage, yes or no?
If those answers are all 'yes', then from Dooku's perspective, it was not a duel to the death, but a test/trail/contest.

Originally posted by Lightsnake
New Essential Chronology quote: Dooku fought for his life. In the novelization? Dooku fights to the best of his abilities as he realizes he will DIE if he doesn't. In the script, he's simply overpowered Your'e wrong, goodbye!

And that does not equal the movie for canon, so no, I am not wrong. If you want to stop debating, then so be it. Either provide actual evidence to refute mine or simply stop posting. Quoting books is not equal to movie reference.

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Because he used lightning when people CLEARLY INTENDED to duel him, riiiight...

You have a problem with that? Are you denying that Dooku used lightning before he then used his lightsaber on screen? If you are, then you want to re-watch those films and get your facts straight.

Originally posted by Lightsnake
and go to swcomics.com and find Republic 72. Dooku zaps Sora in their duel,

I'll check it out, but, as I said before, one example of a comic does not mean more to three film examples (Two live action, one animated to be technical) of his standard tactics, which was, I believe, your point?

Originally posted by Lightsnake

Hypocrite! And nope, Dooku never said it in the movie so it doesn't exist, too bad!

If that's the way you want to play, Dooku never zapped Sora in the movie, so that doesn't exist either.

Originally posted by Lightsnake
but no, that might actually HURT your argument so of course you won't use it

I'm only using novelization to provide evidence that was not onscreen, not to contradict what was onscreen. That's how the EU fanboys here like to play, do try and keep up.

Oh, I notice you didn't answer my question about your age and length of time studying fencing and martial arts, you felt you had the right to question my experience, so please have the courtesy to put your own experience down for comparison 🙂
How old are you, and how long have you been studying fencing and martial arts?

Lightsnake Senior Member

Oh, you haven't read the entire thing? Well, about a chapter later Dooku realizes the plan IS NOT going so well and fights to the best of his abilities and against Anakin. Sidious even TOLD DOOKU to fight to his best and if Anakin died, he wasn't worth the trouble.

What part of Dooku realized the plan had changed do you just not understand?

Hah! The novelization, Essential Chronology AND THE GODDAMN SCRIPT AND GL COMMENTARY shoot down your theory and viewpoint and you STILL try to defend it? This is sad..

Great: Dooku didn't duel those people who intended to duel him and used lightning instead. Whatever point you were trying to make is gone.

Yes, yes, never mind Dooku used lightning on SEVERAL occasions....mmhmm, no, we can't POSSIBLY acknowledge that!

I'm not the one going back and saying "But it's a comic so it's invalid!"

Practice what you preach and read the novelization. In fact, read the whole thing: dooku REALIZES he has to FIGHT SERIOUSLY as his LIFE IS IN DANGER and this is spelled OUT...quote:
"Dooku decided the comedy had ended.
Now it was time to kill."

Qupte: "No sense taking chances. Sidious could come up with a new plan more easily than a new apprentice."

Oh, and I notice I don't owe you a goddamn thing about my personal life.

Sin Harvest Sonic Speed

Dooku got

Enough said

Rampant ox Senior Member

This thread is getting ridiculous. Both sides are blowing things out of proportion. At the beginning of the duel Dooku could have won. Why? Because he is more skilled than them both and it is proven that he can beat them. Why he didnt beat them at the beginning? Because he wasnt supposed to. He was there to turn Anakin to the darkside so he can be a general in the new army. So Dooku fighting his hardest at the beginning is bullsh*t. He wasnt because there was no need. There is also the fact that everyone seems to forget. Sids was SUPPOSED to step in if anything went wrong. We know he was lieing but Dooku did not. Nobody would fight there best if they knew they had a safety net. Especially someone as arrogant as the Count.

That is the beginning of the duel. Dooku takes out Obi-Wan and his strength is starting to diminish. He physically cant stand up to two stronger young men. However he keeps fighting at being the arrogant man he is keeps taunting Anakin. Now this is what led to his defeat. When Anakin is angry he is unstoppable. He taunted Anakin so much that he had dug himself a whole he couldnt get out of. Now the end of the battle is upon them. Dooku is tired and being the coward he is, Anakin grabs his arms. He then proceeds to chop them off along with the Counts head. That does NOT prove that Anakin is the better duellist. What it does show is that he is a coward and is physically stronger than the Count.

So the point I am making is that at the beginning of the battle Dooku could have won. At the end of the battle he was to weak to fight a stronger man. The fact that there were two people he had to fight also meant that it was harder for him to beat Anakin. So the fact is Anakin won, but it was extremely rigged in his favor. Had it been a fair one on one match thr Count would win.