Originally posted by kamikz
Dooku went there to find a new follower, someone worthy Jango's potential. He was not there to find a force user, but he did. Later, he tested her and she was good enough to become his apprentice. Sidious orderd her to kill Anakin. So if it was Dooku or Sidious is really unclear....
Originally posted by kamikz
Ok I'm pretty tired of you saying that it is the plot line. It doesn't matter, it happened the way it did, you can't blame anything on it. If it weren't for the plot line,anything could have happened, who knows. Plot line doesn't mean shit, and these comics are canon and it did indeed happend so you can't blame anything on that either, just because you rate that as fanboyism.....
It is exactly the same principle with the SW comics. They are set in between movies, (and written after the movies were released) so they have to finish a certain way in order to fit in with the events of the movie that is supposed to follow on from it chronologically.
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Originally posted by Sin Harvest
Oh so Dooku didn't know Anakin killed him. Okay.
Originally posted by Sin Harvest
Hmm so what do you call a duel? Let's look that up:1.) a prearranged combat, especially in former times, between two people armed with lethal weapons, usually to settle a disagreement over a matter of honor
2.) A struggle between two contending parties
Originally posted by Lightsnake
Did Dooku beat Obi-wan in a duel?
Originally posted by Lightsnake
An impromptu sword duel makes a bad analogy.
Originally posted by Darth Vious
In AotC, yes. In RotS, no, because he used Force abilities to take him out of the duel so he could focus on Anakin.
[Edit to add]It was hardly impromtu, given the location Palpatine was 'being held' in (and the reasons behind it) By that standard, the same could be said about Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon's duel against Darth Maul as they really weren't expecting to have to fight him at all.
For some reason people keep confusing this battle with a duel. The fact is a duel is a predetermined conflict and this is fight was unexpected by Anakin and Obi-Wan at the given time and location.
Anakin won the battle and Dooku was bested and outmanueved or else he wouldn't have ended up armless and legless.
Originally posted by Darth Vious
Okay, I'll go along with that view.I take it you've played MGS: SnakeEater. What happens if Snake gets killed? What does it say?
Why does it say that?
Because previous games depicting events after SnakeEater had already established that Snake/Big Boss had survived beyond the Cold War Era.It is exactly the same principle with the SW comics. They are set in between movies, (and written after the movies were released) so they have to finish a certain way in order to fit in with the events of the movie that is supposed to follow on from it chronologically.
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Oh lord. It doesn't matter. Are we now going to say that it is plot line that Dooku survived in AOTC against Anakin just because the trial in ROTS, so really AOTC Anakin is better than Dooku, it was just plot line..... Please, saying that it's the plot line is the worst excuse ever. It happened in the movie, we can't go say that "I belive this, I belive that, it wouldn't have happened if it wasn't plot line". Well guess what, it is in the films so it did happen and it is canon, it does happened, plot line or not, deal with it.
Let me ask you a question...... Did Naked Snake ever die during that mission? No.... So that comment is just for fun and is really un-canon....
It did happened, it is canon. It doesn't matter if it's plot line, it happened, nothing changes because of that. And you saying that they are fanboys doesn't change a shit either. Thing is that they did do that, and the droids were under order by Dooku to KILL Obi-Wan and Anakin.....
Originally posted by Sin Harvest
For some reason people keep confusing this battle with a duel. The fact is a duel is a predetermined conflict and this is fight was unexpected by Anakin and Obi-Wan at the given time and location.
Originally posted by Sin Harvest
Anakin won the battle and Dooku was bested and outmanueved or else he wouldn't have ended up armless and legless.
unfortunatly some pretty poor plotlines are cannon, and some great ones are too, so discounting one over another is giving yourself, and anyone who wants to argue for or against you the oppertunity to dismiss whatever cannon doesnt suit them.
cannon is cannon. sometimes everybody wishes otherwise but its not our call to make. if it was there would be hundreds of different cannon stories all contradicting eachother with every different fans opinion. there has to be a line somewhere.
Originally posted by kamikz
Oh lord. It doesn't matter. Are we now going to say that it is plot line that Dooku survived in AOTC against Anakin just because the trial in ROTS, so really AOTC Anakin is better than Dooku, it was just plot line..... Please, saying that it's the plot line is the worst excuse ever. It happened in the movie, we can't go say that "I belive this, I belive that, it wouldn't have happened if it wasn't plot line". Well guess what, it is in the films so it did happen and it is canon, it does happened, plot line or not, deal with it.Let me ask you a question...... Did Naked Snake ever die during that mission? No.... So that comment is just for fun and is really un-canon....
It did happened, it is canon. It doesn't matter if it's plot line, it happened, nothing changes because of that. And you saying that they are fanboys doesn't change a shit either. Thing is that they did do that, and the droids were under order by Dooku to KILL Obi-Wan and Anakin.....
Did Naked Snake ever die? In the sense that he could be killed if discovered? Yes, although it wasn't a case of game over full stop, because it was always possible to re-start the game. When NS was killed, the message was accurate at that point, it was only the option to continue that enabled the rest of the game to unfold
Originally posted by Sin Harvest
The fact of the matter is that duel and battle are closely related but completely different. They thought of the possibly of a conflict with Count Dooku but didn't expect it much like Mace going to arrest Palpatine. The only true duel in Star Wars was Luke vs. Vader in Return of the Jedi.
Originally posted by Darth Vious
Either way, there are still codes of conduct within those conflicts, and Anakin violated them by grabbing the Count. That was the only situation (if we can't use the term duel) in Star Wars where someone grabbed their opponent in order to beat them
Umm...Maul smacked Qui-Gon's head to get a clear target.
Umm...Grievous and Obi-Wan went without lightsabers and even fist to fist.
Umm...Anakin grabbed Obi-Wan by his throat and was chocking him.
Umm...Mace kicked Palpatine knocking his lightsaber away.
Umm...Luke kicked Vader off that platform in ESB and down the stairs in ROTJ.
Fact of the matter is these are uncontrolled battles meaning NO RULES.