Lucifer hits the Gauntlet !!!

Started by Lord Urizen38 pages

Well Lucifer is definately below the power level of "pre retconned" IG.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Phoenix fatally wounded 616 and then she telekinetically restructured it atom by atom in the palm of her hand on a whim.

On a whim?

Swore she said doing this is not as easy as it looks.

That's not "on a whim" talk.

And people let's get it straight...she repaired 616...I don't remember reading about her restructuring 616...

Is repairing and restructuring the same thing? I think not.

Repair: fix or mend (a thing suffering from damage or a fault).

Restructure: organize differently(reconfigure)

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Well Lucifer is definately below the power level of "pre retconned" IG.

I would have to agree.

IG controlled the Energies of the Ultimate Nullifier(Multiverse rebooter)

that says it all.

how do you know that abraxas dieing wasnt what rebooted the multiverse, instead of the UN

Originally posted by Mr Master
On a whim?

Swore she said doing this is not as easy as it looks.

That's not "on a whim" talk.

And people let's get it straight...she repaired 616...I don't remember reading about her restructuring 616...

Is repairing and restructuring the same thing? I think not.

Repair: fix or mend (a thing suffering from damage or a fault).

Restructure: organize differently(reconfigure)

She actully did it on a whim as we can see it on picture. She said it's not as easily, but we can clearly see she did very easily.

Please... all she did was change a crucial moment resulting in the production of a new future. Legion did the same thing.

😖hifty:

Originally posted by Xplosive
She actully did it on a whim as we can see it on picture. She said it's not as easily, but we can clearly see she did very easily.

So your actually speaking for her now...

She just said it's not easy...

how you gonna tell me it was easy...

On a Whim she would not have to have even had the univese in her hands...Repairing it atom by atom...

On Whim...it would of been Repaired with a thought.

This is on Whim:

Originally posted by Mr Master
So your actually speaking for her now...

She just said it's not easy...

how you gonna tell me it was easy...

On a Whim she would not have to have even had the univese in her hands...Repairing it atom by atom...

On Whim...it would of been Repaired with a thought.

This is on Whim:

True that.

Pheonix did no such thing on a whim. A whim is a simple desire come manifested with NO physical, emotional, or mental difficulty/challenge.

I.E. When Thanos eliminated half the Universe with a snap of his fingers. It cost him nothing, it took no true effort to do so, the snap itself may have just been a gesture to emphasize how easily he could clean the universe in half.

When thanos had the HOTU he just waved his hand and practically destroyed every hero/villian and killed a celestial like it was nothing.

Originally posted by Mordum
When thanos had the HOTU he just waved his hand and practically destroyed every hero/villian and killed a celestial like it was nothing.

Good thing HOTU aint included in this gauntlet lol 😆

Incorrect. A whim is a sudden desire, to think or do something on impulse without putting much thought into it. It refers to length of time taken to decide on a course of action, not the action itself. Phoenix restructured 616 in the palm of her hand on a whim. The Phoenix Consciousness said that control over that amount of atoms isnt as easy as it sounds in training. Which infers that

a) The avatars are trained in the fixing of broken universes (which the Consciousness actually deems "Phoenix work

b) The Phoenix Force has duties beyond any single universe.

Regardless Jean demonstrates just how well shes been taught by manifesting 616 in the palm of her hand atom by atom within seconds.

Comparing the slaughter of half a universes population in a second to that is laughable.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Incorrect. A whim is a sudden desire, to think or do something on impulse without putting much thought into it. It refers to length of time taken to decide on a course of action, not the action itself. Phoenix restructured 616 in the palm of her hand on a whim. The Phoenix Consciousness said that control over that amount of atoms isnt as easy as it sounds in training.

WHAT GIBBERISH is this?

This guy will say anything to make Phoenix the cherry of our lives.

GS is SO FULL of SH*T.

ANyone who wants to know check out this link at CBR forums.

He goes by the name Phoenix Rising...

He was Banned from this forum for LYING and warpng on panel art interpretation to suit Phoenix.

It's hilarious...Phoenix Rising...watch how shut this PHONY down.

http://forums.comicbookresources.co...ead.php?t=46969

http://forums.comicbookresources.co...ad.php?t=114595

who used the ultimate nullifier during the time it was reversed back on themselves, the ultimate nullifier can project a certain amount of nullibility but it has to be from someone who's brain or mind is way up there as in it doesnt work the same way in the hands of me as it would galactus, i might be able to destroy a car but galactus with all he's seen would be able to destroy a universe or since he's lived so long wiki says he can destroy whole time streams, or maybe he could destroy eternity itself with cosmic awerness but yeah it depends on who's using the ultimate nullifier so the UN may be multiversal but it depends on who's using it, maybe the UN would have worked on the IG if it was galactus using it but i dont even know who was using it.

Originally posted by Mr Master
WHAT GIBBERISH is this?

This guy will say anything to make Phoenix the cherry of our lives.

GS is SO FULL of SH*T.

ANyone who wants to know check out this link at CBR forums.

He goes by the name Phoenix Rising...

He was Banned from this forum for LYING and warpng on panel art interpretation to suit Phoenix.

It's hilarious...Phoenix Rising...watch how shut this PHONY down.

http://forums.comicbookresources.co...ead.php?t=46969

http://forums.comicbookresources.co...ad.php?t=114595

The amount of times ive had someone PM asking if im so and so from another forum or ask permission if they can use my essays elsewhere. I am not and never have been a member of CBR forums. 🙂

Give it a rest son. I think matters were perfectly wrapped in your anti-Phoenix thread. Didnt quite turn out how you were hoping but oh well. 😱

Unless you have anything new to bring to the matter but your opinion id say thats pretty much all for now.

- GS 😎

Originally posted by Mr Master
WHAT GIBBERISH is this?

This guy will say anything to make Phoenix the cherry of our lives.

GS is SO FULL of SH*T.

ANyone who wants to know check out this link at CBR forums.

He goes by the name Phoenix Rising...

He was Banned from this forum for LYING and warpng on panel art interpretation to suit Phoenix.

It's hilarious...Phoenix Rising...watch how shut this PHONY down.

http://forums.comicbookresources.co...ead.php?t=46969

http://forums.comicbookresources.co...ad.php?t=114595

Originally posted by Creshosk
Are you aware that on another board somebody posted the exact same scans and the exact same words as DarCrawler from KMC here?

According to your logic that WAS DarkCrawler.

Turns out though that not only was that not DarkCrawler, but DarkCrawler was upset that he was plagerized. That's right, another person had copied DC's Namor Respect thread and pasted it up as their own. Funny how you can do that on the internet isn't it? you can go and copy another person's posts, probably because you agree with them, and then just post it. And then for no reason other than the posts were the same (Thanks to copying and pasting a function that is supposed to reproduce indenticle material) people assume that the two people that post the same thing is the same person.

Sorry, there are over 6 billion people in the world.

Now a question was raised earlier. Why are you bringing it up? I'll tell you why. It's an ad hominem attack, a logically invalid personal attack to try and support your own side that amounts to little more than "Don't listen to him! He's a doody-head!"

You're trying to discredit him by making him look like a liar? Because some otherboard decided he was a liar? Despite that not being true.

What does his banning or not banning have to do with the Phoenix?

Replace Phoenix with the topic of this thread.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Incorrect. A whim is a sudden desire, to think or do something on impulse without putting much thought into it. It refers to length of time taken to decide on a course of action, not the action itself. Phoenix restructured 616 in the palm of her hand on a whim. The Phoenix Consciousness said that control over that amount of atoms isnt as easy as it sounds in training. Which infers that

a) The avatars are trained in the fixing of broken universes (which the Consciousness actually deems "Phoenix work

b) The Phoenix Force has duties beyond any single universe.

Regardless Jean demonstrates just how well shes been taught by manifesting 616 in the palm of her hand atom by atom within seconds.

Comparing the slaughter of half a universes population in a second to that is laughable.

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
True that.

Pheonix did no such thing on a whim. A whim is a simple desire come manifested with NO physical, emotional, or mental difficulty/challenge.

I.E. When Thanos eliminated half the Universe with a snap of his fingers. It cost him nothing, it took no true effort to do so, the snap itself may have just been a gesture to emphasize how easily he could clean the universe in half.

1) GS, Notice how I say a whim is a simple desire come manifect with no physical, emotional, or mental difficulty or challenge. Who exactly are you disagreeing with, as quotes reveal that our definitions of a Whim are the same ?

2) As for what is more impressive, that is purely Subjective Both Thanos and Pheonix performed these feats on a mere whim. You say Pheonix manifested 616 atom by atom in a matter of seconds is more impressive than Thanos destroying half the MU 616 in a mere second....Thanos' feat seems more impressive to me, however your opinion is your own.

Just consider the fact that Thanos eliminated half the populace of the Universe with the IG, selected a vast number of individuals, even some he specifically had in mind, within a second.

Pheonix manifesting a universe that already had existed doesn't seem any superior to me.

Anyways, you were simply arguing your opinion, and it does not prove anything. What were you trying to accomplish in your interference of my argument?

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
1) GS, Notice how I say a whim is a simple desire come manifect with no physical, emotional, or mental difficulty or challenge. Who exactly are you disagreeing with, as quotes reveal that our definitions of a Whim are the same ?

2) As for what is more impressive, that is purely [b]Subjective Both Thanos and Pheonix performed these feats on a mere whim. You say Pheonix manifested 616 atom by atom in a matter of seconds is more impressive than Thanos destroying half the MU 616 in a mere second....Thanos' feat seems more impressive to me, however your opinion is your own.

Just consider the fact that Thanos eliminated half the populace of the Universe with the IG, selected a vast number of individuals, even some he specifically had in mind, within a second.

Pheonix manifesting a universe that already had existed doesn't seem any superior to me.

Anyways, you were simply arguing your opinion, and it does not prove anything. What were you trying to accomplish in your interference of my argument? [/B]

Thanos destroying half the population of a universe is nowhere near as impressive as Phoenix manipulating a universe in its totality atom by atom, restructuring it in the palm of her hand. To argue to the contrary would be fallacious.

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Well Lucifer is definately below the power level of "pre retconned" IG.
I agree, he has not really shown levels beyond it.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Thanos destroying half the population of a universe is nowhere near as impressive as Phoenix manipulating a universe in its totality atom by atom, restructuring it in the palm of her hand. To argue to the contrary would be fallacious.

As per your opinion.

That's my point. What you claim is purely an opinion, a highly supported opinion as best, but not a fact.

Although many claim that it is easier to destroy a universe than it is to create one, this is where the flaw in your opinion lies:

If Pheonix manipulated a universe in its totality atom by atom, then she had not done it on a mere whim. She obviously required a thought process to perform such a task.

Thanos erased half the universe's population with a simple desire to do so. Not complicated, extensive, or general thought process. In less than a second.

You do the math.

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
As per your [b]opinion.

That's my point. What you claim is purely an opinion, a highly supported opinion as best, but not a fact.

Although many claim that it is easier to destroy a universe than it is to create one, this is where the flaw in your opinion lies:

If Pheonix manipulated a universe in its totality atom by atom, then she had not done it on a mere whim. She obviously required a thought process to perform such a task.

Thanos erased half the universe's population with a simple desire to do so. Not complicated, extensive, or general thought process. In less than a second.

You do the math. [/B]

A whim refers to the length of time taken on deciding on a course of action not on how long the action took itself. Therefore your analysis is redundant. Regardless its a greater feat anyway. Both Ig interpretations tapped into the fundamental forces of 616, the only diffference being pre retcon the I Being also created 616 and post retcon he was of 616. Phoenix manipulated in the palm of her hand the thing the IG gives you total mastery of. You do the math 😱