Demonstrating control of 616 in its totality down to the sub atomic and manipulating its formation in the palm of your hand in seconds is a far greater feat than merely killing half the population of a universe in a second. A universe is composed of planets, stars, galaxies etc. Half of a universes population doesnt count for much comparatively. Again take the time out to do the math.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
A whim refers to the length of time taken on deciding on a course of action not on how long the action took itself. Therefore your analysis is redundant. Regardless its a greater feat anyway. Both Ig interpretations tapped into the fundamental forces of 616, the only diffference being pre retcon the I Being also created 616 and post retcon he was of 616. Phoenix manipulated in the palm of her hand the thing the IG gives you total mastery of. You do the math 😱
Again just your opinion....Justified yes, but just opinion.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Demonstrating control of 616 in its totality down to the sub atomic and manipulating its formation in the palm of your hand in seconds is a far greater feat than merely killing half the population of a universe in a second. A universe is composed of planets, stars, galaxies etc. Half of a universes population doesnt count for much comparatively. Again take the time out to do the math.
AGAIN.......Just your opinion...no need to repeat it.
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Hence despite Galactic Storm's justified and possibly Valid opinion, that Facts still stand.Classic IG is WAY BEYOND the power of the Pheonix. Get over it GS 😉
IG was Multiversal...and IG is Multiversal...
L. Urizen who made this claim...that there's a classic IG and a retcon version?
You know how we do...if it's not on panel...it's inconsequential.
And as for the first point...
Phoenix REPAIRED the damage of that orphan universe(some one had the balls to say it was 616)...she did NOT reconfigure/restructure/warp call it what you will...but she did NOT do that...she REPAIRED the damage of that universe.
From websters:
Repair: fix or mend (a thing suffering from damage or a fault)
Restructure: organize differently (change a thing)
Originally posted by bbrem123
he made a universe of his own design representing the 616 universe, and he was going to merge both together
In all fairness I must shine some light on this.
Magus with an Incomplete Infinity Gauntlet did not create a duplicate of 616.
Magus with 5 Cosmic Cubes created a duplicate of 616.
This scenerio takes place before he was in possession of the Incomplete IG.
Now.
Magus did however merge 616 with the duplicate in an instant with the Incomplete IG.
In this scan he says it would have taken him hours to complete his master plan(merging 616 with the duplicate)but now that he had aquired his Incomplete IG...he was able to merge both realities with a whim...but the duplicate had already been created by the 5 Cosmic Cubes.
Originally posted by Mr Master
In all fairness I must shine some light on this.Magus with an Incomplete Infinity Gauntlet did not create a duplicate of 616.
Magus with 5 Cosmic Cubes created a duplicate of 616.
This scenerio takes place before he was in possession of the Incomplete IG.Now.
Magus did however merge 616 with the duplicate in an instant with the Incomplete IG.
In this scan he says it would have taken him hours to complete his master plan(merging 616 with the duplicate)but now that he had aquired his Incomplete IG...he was able to merge both realities with a whim...but the duplicate had already been created by the 5 Cosmic Cubes.
thank u for elaborating
Originally posted by Mider
interesting yet the cosmic cubes dont have lasting effects right? i mean cosmic cube beings like kubrix his affects only last for like four years isnt that right,
Actually that's the Shaper of Worlds...whose reality manipulations have time limits...not Kubik...
But in any case Magus had 5 Cubes that had not reached sentience yet...they were actually "Containment Units"(unevolved Cosmic Cubes).
Originally posted by Mider
but combinning both realities is impressive,
Yes indeed...let's not forget it was an Incomplete IG...that's the true impression.
And just to gauge the Power of the Complete IG...in the Crusade series(which followed the War saga)...30 Containment Units which the "Goddess" wileded...yes, that's right....30!
Was said to be nothing in comparison with the IG....and it only took 5 to created a Universe so go figure.
Originally posted by Mider
but i dont know if it was real.
What wasn't real?
Originally posted by bbrem123
the IG is all powerful the only way to defeat it is if the wielder allows it to be disasemble.
or you could always just take it to the ultraverse, assemble it (apparently against lt's wishes . . .) add the seventh gem to it and recreate the 'infinity being from whom it was brought forth', then beat it with a bunch of ultras and heroes . . .
😖hifty:
(yes, canon as mentioned in the handbook . . .)
but . . . of course that wouldn't make the IG TRULY multiversal, but rather something like . . . SELECTIVELY-multiversal . . . 😗
i'm also curious about where you get the idea that magus was 'outside the universe' -- or was 'several universes away'. i'm not saying you're wrong, but rather i'm curious. i don't recall mention of it in IW.
Originally posted by leonidas
[or you could always just take it to the ultraverse, assemble it (apparently against lt's wishes . . .) add the seventh gem to it and recreate the 'infinity being from whom it was brought forth', then beat it with a bunch of ultras and heroes . . .😖hifty:
(yes, canon as mentioned in the handbook . . .)
but . . . of course that wouldn't make the IG TRULY multiversal, but rather something like . . . SELECTIVELY-multiversal . . . 😗
The Gems awoke the mothership of the Entity which was weakened. It pulled the Phoenix Force from the 616 universe into the Ultraverse to use it as a power source for repair. The PF fought from being drained by the ship and broke free but not after being WOUNDED. It had to hide in the Prime. Later Amber possed the PF but the mothership took over the PF, then it was saved by a bunch of ultras and heroes
😖hifty:
[yes, canon as mentioned in the handbook...]
i'm also curious about where you get the idea that magus was 'outside the universe' -- or was 'several universes away'. i'm not saying you're wrong, but rather i'm curious. i don't recall mention of it in IW.
The very beginning of War when Thanos was leaving 616 and jumping around dimensions to find that mysterious powersource that ended up being Magus' base.
All issues of War refering to Magus being outside of the 616 and about 4 issues of Dr. Strange was spent traveling with Galactus to find the Magus across dimensions.
Then there was that whole incident where every heroe and the Infinity Watch jumping across dimensions to find the Magus. The only ones that actually reached his dimension was Doom, Kang, Thanos, and Warlock (who Magus captured).
The better question would be what proof is there that Magus and his base was anywhere near the 616 universe.
Originally posted by leonidas
i'm also curious about where you get the idea that magus was 'outside the universe' -- or was 'several universes away'. i'm not saying you're wrong, but rather i'm curious. i don't recall mention of it in IW.
I got the idea from the comic book.
Here's the "several universes away" thingy.
Magus's Lair...
And another instance...it's actually "many universes/realities away"
Magus's Lair...
Here Galactus sends Thor back to our universe...from Magus's universe.
This is what is happening with our Universe...
Here's where Warlock gets kidnapped in Magus's reality/universe...He takes the IG from Warlock which did not work at the time...and when it was activated...he did what happened in the following scan to 616...from this reality(His Lair)not several...but many universes away.
Magus merges and remakes 616 from universes away(or his Lair)
After this all hell breaks loose as you should know...from the alteration Magus made to our reality....from many universes away.
All this with an INCOMPLETE Infinity Gauntlet.
