Lucifer hits the Gauntlet !!!

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Nope. To be multiversal the IG would have had to have demonstrated a feat which involved its power being applied simultaneously across all realities of the multiverse. Simply applying your power in another reality is NOT multiversal.

Interesting..how you rearrange the definition of Multi-

Multi...which simply means...more than one 😂
Magus had absolute control over his Universe and also Warped 616 simultaneously...

Oh...and he made Mighty Eternity Catatonic from OUTSIDE 616 aswell.

Magus might of created Universes...instead of just One Universe with the 5 Cosmic Cubes.

Doom say's it only takes ONE to possibly conquer the Entire Universe.

5 Cosmic Cubes make a duplicate reality...and possibly other separate Universes.

This is HOW Powerful the Infinity Gauntlet is:

Now imagine 30 Cosmic Containment Units...the Goddess had that many...30.
Here the Goddess merges 30 Cosmic Containment Units...which equal to even greater power as a sum than individually(as when Magus used his 5)

Here Silver Surfer and the Goddess acknowledge that the Infinity Gauntlet is a "Far More Potent Force" than even 30 Cosmic Containment Units(un-evolved Cosmic Cubes)and remember it only took 5 to create an exact duplicate of the 616 Universe...from scratch.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
The original I Gems were fragments of a being claimed by Thanos to have been responsible for creating 616 in Thanos Quest.

That's correct...On Panel...and the Multiverse's origin was shown to Reed and Dr Druid by Captain MArvel..and it had NOTHING to do with the Phoenix Force.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Since then the Infinity Being has been stated to have been someone who was merely of 616 in the Avengers/Ultraverse crossovers which consequently are canon and are referenced in the bios of Sersi and the Black Knight, whilst the initiator of the 616 creation cycle we've been told is Phoenix. For more details google "marvunapp nemesis"

Crossovers...😆

Dude...your insane if you think I will debate based on Crossoverspukeand Bios.thumbdown

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Please read the comic. Dont go merely by the scans. The universe in the palm of her hand is 616 which she had just damaged by cutting away its future, leaving it in a static state.
http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=7/18209533321.jpg&s=f5

No where in that scan does she have 616 in her hands...or does it even mention 616....she amputated that whole Specific future, "of the Intelligent bacterial colony gone rogue."

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Phoenix then restructured/repaired 616 in the palm of her hand displaying control of it in its totality right down to the atomic level
http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=7/18209545011.jpg&s=f5

Dude stop using those two words with a backslash..."restructured/repaired"
They don't mean the same thing...
stop trying to make it look as though Phoenix Remade/Warped 616 or any Universe for that matter.

Again from Websters:
REPAIR: fix or mend (a thing suffering from damage or a fault)

Restructure: organize differently (reconfigure)

She Repaired the Damage done to some "Orphan Universe"..
Where the heck are you getting 616 from?

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Before growing it a new future by changing Scotts reactions to Emma
http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=7/18209562539.jpg&s=f5

She changed Scotts future...youpi

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
The Ig taps into the fundamental forces of 616. It gives you mastery over something Phoenix holds in the palm of her hand like a tennis ball. The Phoenix Force by feats and by definition is greater than the IG.

Unfortunately for you your probably now reading/seeing my prior scans...and they conclusively show IG being BEYOND Eternity and being Multiversal at that...which would make it IMPOSSIBLE for it to derive it's power from JUST 616.

Phoenix Force by feats...yawn scuse me...are pathetic in comparison to what you make her.

Originally posted by leonidas
all your scans are no more supportive than the previous ones (just claiming he's realities away, yadda-yadda) with a couple exceptions. even you're equating the vortex with the vortex thanos is talking about is strictly speculation and not your always vaunted proof.

As you wish...

I made my point with scans...you go ahead and make yours with talk.

"He's Catatonic....It appears to be Induced by OUTSIDE FORCES"....
[/quote]

You forgot this one too.

"Powerful Eternity Catatonic"
"Artificially Induced by an OUTSIDE FORCE"...these are direct quotes.

Originally posted by leonidas
these could mean that magus was outside the body of eternity,

Could?....😂

Originally posted by leonidas
or it could simply mean that eternity himself had nothing to do with his state. it wasn't self induced for whatever reason but rather an outside force had rendered him that way.

As you wish...😉

Originally posted by leonidas
IS eternity comprised of MORE than just the earth universe?

Absolutely NOT.

With in Eternity(the Single Universe or Aspect of Multi-Eternity)
There is but ONE Earth.
Alternate Earths are in Alternate Realities which are Alternate Universes.
Just like when Abraxas killed different Galactus's and different Reeds...they were All from a system that had an Earth...but in Another Universe.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Interesting..how you rearrange the definition of Multi-

Multi...which simply means...more than one 😂
Magus had absolute control over his Universe and also Warped 616 simultaneously...

Youre ignoring the context to suit your agenda. Marvels multiverse consists of hundreds if not thousands of realities. Simply being able to affect another reality from your native one does NOT equate you to a multiversal power. Being able to apply your power across all realities of the multiverse however does. Phoenix has contained the power of the M'kraan crystal, created a tower to exist simultaneously in all realities of the multiverse and she has avatars serving her across the multiverse trained and empowered to fix universes.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Oh...and he made Mighty Eternity Catatonic from OUTSIDE 616 aswell.

Answered above.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Magus might of created Universes...instead of just One Universe with the 5 Cosmic Cubes.

Might have being the key.

[QUOTE=6913633]Originally posted by Mr Master
[B] Doom say's it only takes ONE to possibly conquer the Entire Universe.

I dont doubt that Doom could conquer a universe with one cosmic cube. The mans a genius. Doesnt prove your point.

Originally posted by Mr Master
5 Cosmic Cubes make a duplicate reality...and possibly other separate Universes.

Nice 😄

Originally posted by Mr Master
This is HOW Powerful the Infinity Gauntlet is:

Now imagine 30 Cosmic Containment Units...the Goddess had that many...30.
Here the Goddess merges 30 Cosmic Containment Units...which equal to even greater power as a sum than individually(as when Magus used his 5)

Here Silver Surfer and the Goddess acknowledge that the Infinity Gauntlet is a "Far More Potent Force" than even 30 Cosmic Containment Units(un-evolved Cosmic Cubes)and remember it only took 5 to create an exact duplicate of the 616 Universe...from scratch.

None of this harms Phoenix at all im afraid as by definition, the I G taps into the energies of 616, if it can do that and achieve what it can then that merely speaks volumes for Phoenix.whose power can spawn realities, whose has avatars operating across existence who demonstrably can casually manipulate a universe in the palm of their hands. A feat beyond any display by the IG. 😄

mr m:

1 -- so the 616 eternity does NOT include all the other dimensions i named? funny how i never said there was more than one EARTH within the body of our eternity -- i asked if earth's eternity comprises more than JUST THE EARTH'S UNIVERSE/DIMENSION/REALITY? are asgard, nightmare's realm, the hyperspace realm where the celestials live, the past and future, cyttoak's cosmos . . . are those place within the 'body' of 'our' eternity or not?

2 -- does it state in IW how magus created his little pocket dimension?

Originally posted by Mr Master
That's correct...On Panel...and the Multiverse's origin was shown to Reed and Dr Druid by Captain MArvel..and it had NOTHING to do with the Phoenix Force.

Crossovers...😆

Dude...your insane if you think I will debate based on Crossoverspukeand Bios.

Sorry mate but the Ultraverse was made an official part of the Marvel multiverse many years ago, hence why the events of the Avengers/Ultraforce event are referenced in Sersi and Black Knights bios. Whether you choose to consider it or not is irrelevant in light of that. My point still stands regardless. 🙁

Originally posted by Mr Master
No where in that scan does she have 616 in her hands...or does it even mention 616....she amputated that whole Specific future, "of the Intelligent bacterial colony gone rogue."

Dude stop using those two words with a backslash..."restructured/repaired"
They don't mean the same thing...
stop trying to make it look as though Phoenix Remade/Warped 616 or any Universe for that matter.

Again from Websters:
REPAIR: fix or mend (a thing suffering from damage or a fault)

Restructure: organize differently (reconfigure)

She Repaired the Damage done to some "Orphan Universe"..
Where the heck are you getting 616 from?

She changed Scotts future...[/B]

She amputated the future from 616 fatally wounding it necessitating a repair to the 616 reality which she manipulated in her hand. The fact that youre doubting it is 616 highlights the fact that you havent even bothered to read/research the material relevant to this debate and yet despite that are continuing to state your opinion over this material you havent read whilst dismissing the comments of others. 😕

How would she create a new future for 616 by manipulating another universe in the palm of her hand? 😕

Do you really think that if it actually wasnt the 616 universe that after all these months you'd be the only one out of all the debators on here to spot (what would be) such a massive flaw in my argument? Read the comic son. 😂

Originally posted by Mr Master
Unfortunately for you your probably now reading/seeing my prior scans...and they conclusively show IG being BEYOND Eternity and being Multiversal at that...which would make it IMPOSSIBLE for it to derive it's power from JUST 616.

Your scans havent achieved what you set your heart on them achieving. Once again they have failed. ✅

Originally posted by Mr Master
Phoenix Force by feats... scuse me...are pathetic in comparison to what you make her.

M'kraan. Palm of her hand. Energy matrix.

Thats all that needs to be said. 😄

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Being able to apply your power across all realities of the multiverse however does. Phoenix has contained the power of the M'kraan crystal,

While it was a Universal feat with the help of several X-Men...AND she Repaired that too, before it had unleashed it's energies...nothing more.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
created a tower to exist simultaneously in all realities of the multiverse

VIA the Interface Alignment....which even Merlyn can project his power across the Multiverse with it's Alignment.....nice try though.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
and she has avatars serving her across the multiverse trained and empowered to fix universes.

Roma's service is to Safeguard the Multiverse...and she was killed by Abraxas with a kiss... 😆

Having agents across the Multiverse...doesn't make you Multiversal.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
I dont doubt that Doom could conquer a universe with one cosmic cube. The mans a genius. Doesnt prove your point.

This is lawyer talk...don't play yourself.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
the I G taps into the energies of 616,

False................FALSE....................False!

Dude...are you so hung up on the Phoenix that you will ignore the ON PANEL PROOF?

The IG had absolute control over Magus's UNIVERSE and 616 UNIVERSE at the same time...not to mention it was an INCOMPLETE IG.

This same INCOMPLETE IG WARPED 616 UNIVERESE!

What's wrong with you?.....How then can you dare say it's power comes from ONE universe(616)?

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Phoenix.whose power can spawn realities, whose has avatars operating across existence who demonstrably can casually manipulate a universe in the palm of their hands. A feat beyond any display by the IG.

A Feat that only exist in your head.

We ALL know from the scans she merely REPAIRED the damage done to some ORPHAN UNIVERSE!

NOT 616!

IG controls more then just 616 proven by magus and stated by thanos

😆 omg

this is Lucifer Gauntlet......

Originally posted by leonidas
i asked if earth's eternity comprises more than JUST THE EARTH'S UNIVERSE/DIMENSION/REALITY? are asgard, nightmare's realm, the hyperspace realm where the celestials live, the past and future, cyttoak's cosmos . . . are those place within the 'body' of 'our' eternity or not?

You know Asgard comes from 616...don't know about Nightmare 🙁

Hyperspace Realm...is suppose to be another dimension I believe...whether it's within 616 or not I don't know.

Celestial have their own seperate Universe...but they do have a World Complex within 616.

I don't know much about Cyttorak's story.

Although you dismissed my post as yaddi yaddi whatever...my point was to show you how many times they made it clear for us...that they were dealing outside the 616 Universe...infact very Far away from the 616 Universe.

Originally posted by leonidas
does it state in IW how magus created his little pocket dimension?

Well no...

Because it never mentioned him creating a pocket dimension.

You just made that up.

He did how ever create his own Universe...and possibly other Universes with the 5 Cosmic Cubes.

Which then means he Created his own Universe...then Created a Duplicate of the 616 Universe from scratch...then Merged the 616 Universe with it's Duplicate...All from his Universe which he also created.

Originally posted by kgkg
😆 omg

this is Lucifer Gauntlet......

i was thinking the same thing 😆

Originally posted by Mr Master
While it was a Universal feat with the help of several X-Men...AND she Repaired that too, before it had unleashed it's energies...nothing more.

The initial area affected was 616 as that was the reality in which the crystal was tampered with, however the power source is indeed multiversal therefore containing its power is a multiversal feat.

Originally posted by Mr Master
VIA the Interface Alignment....which even Merlyn can project his power across the Multiverse with it's Alignment.....nice try though.

The alignment created a doorway through which Phoenix used her power to create a tower on every reality of the multiverse simulataneously. Multiversal feat ✅

Show me where Merlyn has applied his own power to every reality of the multiverse simultaneously. 😄

Originally posted by Mr Master
Roma's service is to Safeguard the Multiverse...and she was killed by Abraxas with a kiss... 😆

Having agents across the Multiverse...doesn't make you Multiversal.

Having agents across the multiversal and training and empowering them so that theyre capable of fixing universes does however. 😄

Originally posted by Mr Master
This is lawyer talk...don't play yourself.

No answer to a relevant point as per usual results in a "comical" statement. ❌

Originally posted by Mr Master
False................FALSE....................False!

Dude...are you so hung up on the Phoenix that you will ignore the ON PANEL PROOF?

The IG had absolute control over Magus's UNIVERSE and 616 UNIVERSE at the same time...not to mention it was an INCOMPLETE IG.

This same INCOMPLETE IG WARPED 616 UNIVERESE!

What's wrong with you?.....How then can you dare say it's power comes from ONE universe(616)?

Where did it show that Magus had absolute control over both realities simultaneously? Or did he apply his power partly in both universes? Something that seems reasonable for a universal power. 🙂

As for it being an incomplete IG thats irrelevant when it wasnt the power gem that was missing. The other gems on their own allow a measure of control of facets of existence, whilst its the power gem that boosts these abilities to near infinite levels.

Originally posted by Mr Master
A Feat that only exist in your head.

We ALL know from the scans she merely REPAIRED the damage done to some ORPHAN UNIVERSE!

NOT 616!

Here Comes Tomorrow was a dystopian future of 616, hence why at the end of New X-men 150 it said 150 years in the future. It was an undesirable future therefore Phoenix cut it away wounding 616. She then manipulated 616 in the palm of her hand before growing it a new future. She grew this universe another future by changing Scotts reactions to Emma. We are now reading this future every time we open a marvel comic today.

Please read the comic Mr M 😂

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
The initial area affected was 616 as that was the reality in which the crystal was tampered with,

Area Affected?

She Repaired it before any Energy left the Crystal to cause any Affect.

Unlike Living Tribunal who stopped a Full IG encompassing blast in the middle of it's Attack.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
however the power source is indeed multiversal therefore containing its power is a multiversal feat.

Interesting...10 Minutes ago this was your definition of Multiversal Power.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Simply being able to affect another reality from your native one does NOT equate you to a multiversal power. Being able to apply your power across all realities of the multiverse however does.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
The alignment created a doorway through which Phoenix used her power to create a tower on every reality of the multiverse simulataneously. Multiversal feat

No doubt...like I said VIA the Interface Alignment...thanx for agreeing with me.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Show me where Merlyn has applied his own power to every reality of the multiverse simultaneously.

Show me where Phoenix has? closedeyes

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Having agents across the multiversal and training and empowering them so that theyre capable of fixing universes does however.

Right...just not on panel.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Where did it show that Magus had absolute control over both realities simultaneously? Or did he apply his power partly in both universes? Something that seems reasonable for a universal power.

Reasonable to you is PF rules.

Unfortunately those aren't the Facts.

How many times do I have to post the scans?
Whatever dude...you seen them and so has everyone else...your just still trying to make an arguement when you've got none.

[QUOTE=6913906]Originally posted by GalacticStorm
[B]As for it being an incomplete IG thats irrelevant when it wasnt the power gem that was missing. The other gems on their own allow a measure of control of facets of existence, whilst its the power gem that boosts these abilities to near infinite levels.

Amazing...Now your going to say that the difference between an Incomplete Infinity Gauntlet and a COMPLETE IG is IRRELEVENT...jawdrop.....your only saying this because you SAW how Powerful an INCOMPLETE IG is....

You played yourself.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
She grew this universe another future by changing Scotts reactions to Emma. We are now reading this future every time we open a marvel comic today.

sleep1

Originally posted by Mr Master
Area Affected?

She Repaired it before any Energy left the Crystal to cause any Affect.

Unlike Living Tribunal who stopped a Full IG encompassing blast in the middle of it's Attack.

Thats funny because i could swear the crystal had started causing reality to cease to exist? 😕

http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=6/17713032135.jpg&s=f

Originally posted by Mr Master
Interesting...10 Minutes ago this was your definition of Multiversal Power.

Did you Retcon your Opinion within 10 minutes?
Your worst than X-Men writers.😂

The crystal emits a wave of power that sweeps across the multiverse blinking out all reality. There is only one crystal, one power source therefore this wave of energy is multiversal. Phoenix contained it.

Originally posted by Mr Master
No doubt...like I said VIA the Interface Alignment...thanx for agreeing with me.

Doesnt change the fact that she applied her power to each reality simltaneously. Irrelevant. ✅

Originally posted by Mr Master
Show me where Phoenix has? closedeyes

Excalibur 50 will suffice. 😄

Originally posted by Mr Master
Right...just not on panel.

Well actually Giraud of the Guardians of the Galaxy timeline healed Eternity of a cosmic affliction that Eternity stated only the power of Phoenix could deal with.

http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=main/7/19519305315.jpg&s=f10

http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=main/7/19519313863.jpg&s=f10

http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=main/7/19519335577.jpg&s=f10

Interestingly enough even Living Tribunals name was suggested. Plus in other realities Phoenixes have healed the M'kraan crystal as well.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Amazing...Now your going to say that the difference between an Incomplete Infinity Gauntlet and a COMPLETE IG is IRRELEVENT...jawdrop.....your only saying this because you SAW how Powerful an INCOMPLETE IG is....

You played yourself.

You tried to infer that the IG somehow had less power when it was given pulling off all the feats that it was. However given that the power gem which amps up all the other gems to near infinite levels was present thats a poor argument. Without the power of the power gem the wielder is just given a measure of cosmic power, one needs only refer to and Infinity Watch appearance to see what im talking about. Was Adam Warlock with his Soul Gem omnipotent? Was Pip with his Space Gem?

SHHHHHHH!!! 😂

Originally posted by Mr Master
You know Asgard comes from 616...don't know about Nightmare 🙁

Hyperspace Realm...is suppose to be another dimension I believe...whether it's within 616 or not I don't know.

Celestial have their own seperate Universe...but they do have a World Complex within 616.

I don't know much about Cyttorak's story.

Although you dismissed my post as yaddi yaddi whatever...my point was to show you how many times they made it clear for us...that they were dealing outside the 616 Universe...infact very Far away from the 616 Universe.

Well no...

Because it never mentioned him creating a pocket dimension.

You just made that up.

He did how ever create his own Universe...and possibly other Universes with the 5 Cosmic Cubes.

Which then means he Created his own Universe...then Created a Duplicate of the 616 Universe from scratch...then Merged the 616 Universe with it's Duplicate...All from his Universe which he also created.

dude, i didn't make anything up. i ASKED A QUESTION! getting paranoid in your old age . . .?

okay, so you think the celestials, who were born from eternity, were given a universe to live in . . . outside eternity?

anyway, let me get this straight:

from a pocket dimension . . . SOMEWHERE (and you still never answered my question about eternity being comprised of lots of other dimensions/universes/realities though i guess you did say he must be made of at least SOME others . . .) magus got 5 cubes. where did the cubes come from? 616? anyway, he made a universe and merged that universe he made with 'our' universe. do i have that right?

oh, and i realize you dismissed my explanation of an 'outside force' being something other than eternity himself being responsible for his state, but it really isn't that hard to believe. the cosmics were shocked at what they saw, and didn't seem to believe ANY 'outside force' capable of doing such a thing to eternity.

Originally posted by leonidas

these could mean that magus was outside the body of eternity, i suppose or it could simply mean that eternity himself had nothing to do with his state. it wasn't self induced for whatever reason but rather an outside force had rendered him that way.

What are you trying to say Leonidas? Magus was in another universe alter gather. If you believe it was a pocket universe or outside Eternity's body (which I don't even know what you are trying to say) then point me to the issue where it refers to Magus being in a pocket universe.

leonidas mr m:

1 -- so the 616 eternity does NOT include all the other dimensions i named? funny how i never said there was more than one EARTH within the body of our eternity -- i asked if earth's eternity comprises more than JUST THE EARTH'S UNIVERSE/DIMENSION/REALITY? are asgard, nightmare's realm, the hyperspace realm where the celestials live, the past and future, cyttoak's cosmos . . . are those place within the 'body' of 'our' eternity or not?

No! Eternity's catatonic state was a concern to Galactus who needed the Eye of Agamotto. In Agamotto's dimension literally gave a rats azz about Strange's universe. He dimissed Strange's concerns about Eternity and punished him for using the Eye to assist Galactus. When Galactus arrive they both fought and stalmated till the other Vishanti's arrived and convinced Agamotto to let Galactus and Strange leave and find the Magus.

2 -- does it state in IW how magus created his little pocket dimension?

Maybe you can tell me where it says anything about pocket dimension? Point me to the issues in any of the War issues or cross over issues of War that states Magus was in a pocket universe.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Sort of. Ive read something about this recently in some marvel
letters page or something. I'll try and find it and post a quote or something.

Basically places like Asgard, Dark Dimension, Cytorraks Dimension, etc are located outside of the main 616 dimension however they are adjacent to 616 and are considered within the 616 continuity which is why if 616 was destroyed these realms would be affected also to some degree as they are deeply connected to it, maybe even formed via matter and energy from 616. So consider 616 more of a continuity than a single dimension. The sames true for every alternate universe they'd each have versions of Asgard and so on.

Really. And you can prove this?

Cyttorak chained Nova and halted Strange's mission to save the 616. Agamotto could care less about the 616. He stated as much, that he could "watch" the 616 any time he wanted via his memory orbs. Galactus and Strange were only freed because Agamotto agreed to the Vishanti's wishes. It had nothing to do with the 616's destruction.

Not all dimensions are linked to the 616. It's destruction has nothing to do with most dimensions.

Futures grow by themselves when timelines diverge...

AoA... Days of Future Past..

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Nope. Another case of fanboys whose arguments i have torn apart ganging together in an attempt to achieve the impossible. Speak for yourself

Coming from the biggest fanboy ever. And impossibilty has nothing to do with it, you just go around in circles to annoy peoples with your long paragraphs which are full of your opinions.

Mr Master has not proven that the Phoenix didnt create 616.
Not once did he post a scan stating that Phoenix did not create 616 or a scan which meant that Phoenix couldnt have possibly created 616.
He posted scans and then he posted his opinion on them nothing more. An opinion you've lapped up because of our last encounter which highlighted how your precious IG aint such hotstuff after all.

My dear little Pinocchio, your nose is growing again. You accuse people of the same thing you do.

Ive posted scans stating in captions and on panel by reputable characters (Watchers, Omniversal guardians, abstracts etc) stating that Phoenix starts off the creation cycle and that Phoenix ends it.
Scans saying that Phoenix is the Big Bang and that she is also the final fire that consumes reality. Such scans came from multiple titles and from multiple sources within said titles making the point canon. Opinion to the contrary in the face of that is rather irrelevant. That makes me happy.

It also makes me happy that you continue to knock other posters around for things you've done yourself. You've provided scans which you intepret in your own opinion and then push it as fact.

Where was it ever said she was greater than the other abstracts or that she created the MU? Where does it say that she's the powersource of the universe?

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Not necessarily no. He couldve just been in a parallel pocket dimension which would still be within the 616 continuity.

More speculations by you. Where was there anything mentions of pocket universe. There was none.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm

None of this harms Phoenix at all im afraid as by definition, the I G taps into the energies of 616.

Taps in? Boy you're full of it. It gives you mastery over time, space, reality, power, etc. It doesn't tap into anything. 😉

if it can do that and achieve what it can then that merely speaks volumes for Phoenix.whose power can spawn realities, whose has avatars operating across existence who demonstrably can casually manipulate a universe in the palm of their hands. A feat beyond any display by the IG.

Nope. The IG and PF are two seperate things so stop trying to link them so you can claim the Phoenix can also do that when there's no evidence it can. And fixing a universe is not beyond the IG, maybe in your head sonny. The cubes created a universe. Can I see a pic of Phoenix creating a universe. No speculations please. And fixing a universe isn't the same thing...don't even try it. 😄