Lucifer hits the Gauntlet !!!

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
I haven't read it in a while. But on panel iirc all she did was kill Sublime, then Beast died, then Wolverine died.. so yeh Wolverine's dead there goes the future. Killing the future was a mistake on her part iirc. Maybe I recall wrong, I'll have to go back and look.

A poor recollection:

http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=7/18209533321.jpg&s=f5

As stated she amputated the future.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Speculatory.

The difference is when someone causes a new timeline to emerge through time travel the universe is still connected to the rest of the multiverse. Its a completely different situation. With that in mind you cant equate Jeans growing a new timeline to someone achieving the same thing through time travel. Regardless that wasnt the big feat anyway as aforementioned so you were incorrect anyway.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
There's nothing to imply a lack of necessity. Had she not died at the hand of Xorn that future never would have come to pass, if there's no necessity her actions are superfluous. Making her one of the most inefficient cosmics ever. When did the Force spawn realities?

In your opinion. Doesnt change the fact that Phoenix can and has warped/restructured reality and can pick and choose when to end her physical existence. Death and rebirth is the way of the Phoenix, it is something she controls.

Read the thread. I do not feel obligated to repost for consistently lazy members. 🙁

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
A poor recollection:

http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=7/18209533321.jpg&s=f5

As stated she amputated the future.

The difference is when someone causes a new timeline to emerge through time travel the universe is still connected to the rest of the multiverse. Its a completely different situation. With that in mind you cant equate Jeans growing a new timeline to someone achieving the same thing through time travel. Regardless that wasnt the big feat anyway as aforementioned so you were incorrect anyway.

In your opinion. Doesnt change the fact that Phoenix can and has warped/restructured reality and can pick and choose when to end her physical existence. Death and rebirth is the way of the Phoenix, it is something she controls.

Read the thread. I do not feel obligated to repost for consistently lazy members. 🙁

It certainly is. 😉

Enough for 2nite. See u guys later.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
The last multiverse was destroyed and reset by the M'kraan crystal.

:laughing:

What a crock of shit

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
That is conclusively how the current multiverse came into being. The events of X-men Adventures 12 are referenced in the bios of Phoenix, Dweller in Darkness, LT and Galactus. It is continuity. The I Being got retconned a long time ago.

Gibberish.

You can't argue with the scans baby.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
He wasnt explaining the Multi-Eternitys origin anyway. To do that he would've had to have defined how he came into being. That he did NOT do. He merely highlighted the fact that there actually is a Multi-Eternity.

wow.....that's it.....7900f44c82a964c25f448263bcfaa7a6

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Nope everyone does not know that. Marking out feats you think shouldnt be achievable by a universal power does NOT equate to evidence of the IG being a multiversal power.

Dude are you buggin?

EVERYONE agrees that the IG is Multiversal....it's just YOU....oh...and leon, ofcourse.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
I like your speculation at the end there. When you become a writer for Marvel then i'll accept your dictation pertaining to the inner workings of Thanos of Titan.

I should be a Writer for Marvel then...look here ...Yea...I drew this myself.
Thanos didn't become the Universe because it was his Ultimate goal....he did it to LOSE his power...to the Infinity Gauntlet.

What's your next excuse?

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
The fact remains that he saw becoming Eternity as his ultimate goal despite having the IG. Dont dismiss Eternity my friend please remember that it was only an MBody that Thanos defeated,

I just PORVED you WRONG right above this with ON PANEL evidence.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Thanos didnt obliterate him at all. He was still there and mocked Thanos' attempts as is plain to see. It was Mephisto who cast doubt into Thanos mind about Maelstrom actually surviving.

I saw him be obliterated and then either he's returned by Death(who was present to taunt Thanos)or it was an illusion from the start....it's open to interpretation on both sides....but why would Maelstrom be beyond the reach of the IG? When the Universe itself is nothing to the IG....

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Heres a link to the Handbook writers site which supports my take on the events and gives a issue by issue summary.

Dude please...that's your style...relying on bios to debate.puke

My thing is ON PANEL PROOF...

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
and a site from the handbook writers supporting my post.

puke

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
The IG of 616 is NOT multiversal if it has counterparts in other realities. As per current continuity the I being is of creation anyway. He had no part in the formation of Marvel.

Their NOT the SAME Infinity Gauntlet!

Here Impossible Man RUNS away from the Cosmics with the Infinity Gauntlet...Surfer even warns him about Eternity....

Runs out of the Universe really.

Impossible Man with the Infinity Gauntlet was only able to destroy a Galaxy....this is obviously not the same Gauntlet.

Again...this really demonstrates how weak this OTHER Infinity Gauntlet is.
Here Impossible Man forces Galactus to help him Re-create his home world...and Silver Surfer is worried because Eternity is coming...who will crush Impossible Man and his Gauntlet.

Here after Galactus Re-created his Impossible Man's world...he actually bargained the Gauntlet for this....he can destroy a Galaxy...but...he can't Re-create a Planet.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
A poor recollection:

http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=7/18209533321.jpg&s=f5

As stated she amputated the future.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
The difference is when someone causes a new timeline to emerge through time travel the universe is still connected to the rest of the multiverse. Its a completely different situation. With that in mind you cant equate Jeans growing a new timeline to someone achieving the same thing through time travel. Regardless that wasnt the big feat anyway as aforementioned so you were incorrect anyway.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
In your opinion. Doesnt change the fact that Phoenix can and has warped/restructured reality and can pick and choose when to end her physical existence. Death and rebirth is the way of the Phoenix, it is something she controls.

Read the thread. I do not feel obligated to repost for consistently lazy members. 🙁

It's only your opinion that she didn't need to go through the process. Either incapable or inefficient.

Shattered into a billion pieces and forcibly reconstituted by the Shi'ar. Pick and choose, doesn't seem so.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Nope everyone does not know that. Marking out feats you think shouldnt be achievable by a universal power does NOT equate to evidence of the IG being a multiversal power. Please understand that. 🙂

it was stated that the Infinity being domain was any and all realities

there is speculation to if he made the who Marvel multiverse...thus creating the LT and all the rest of the abstracts when he comitted suicide

i wouldnt doubt that he is the all powerful being that the LT keeps referring to

but thats just what i think 😛

Originally posted by Mr Master
crylaugh

Everyone except for "GS SAYETH" and yourself...disagree with what you said.

"GS SAYETH"serenade....that's still too funny.

😆

😐

noob. i use SAYETH all the time. i'm lazy. i copy/paste so as not to have to delete from quote. but i'd be wary of the allusions. i know a couple members who are still . . . uncomfortable with the little fawn-fest you had over wwk's pf post in our last thread . . . 😍 (no offense wwk, but i'm guessing you were as weirded out as the rest . . .)

anyway, i'm not at all certain who EVERYONE is that you think YOU convinced.

let's look at a few facts:

--we know the IG had no effect on the UNIVERSAL aspect of maelstrom (if it was so all-powerful why not command maelstrom to return? why 'wonder' if it was an illusion?? you mean the wielder of the REALITY gem couldn't tell if maelstrom was real?? ridiculous . . .)
--we know variant gems exist in other continuities (why you insist they were different is beyond me. you actually think impossible man would use them to their fullest extent?? the book was more a spoof than anything, however as a what if the continuity DOES exist in the marvel multiverse.)
--you admit you don't know what the 616 continuity consists of yet you steadfastly concude that magus's stronghold was NOT within it 😕
--you yourself have admitted that the vague terminology (dimension/reality/plane/etc . . .) used throughout the series was interchangeable and as such really is not indicative of . . . well, anything!
--we know that doom said the place where magus stronghold was was "a mere 3 dimensional sequences over" and that they arrived there via the DIMENSIONAL CORRIDOR. or, wait, was that the . . . COSMIC VORTEX!? 😆 a dimensional corridor? you mean almost like bifrost? asgard IS in 616, right . . .? so now dimensional corridors can take us to different continuites?
--we also know that to reach the place where his stronghold was built the magus "wandered the dimensional corridor and finally selected a barren region of space to call his own."

huh . . .? but, i thought . . .

MRM SAYETH:

<<He did how ever create his own Universe...and possibly other Universes with the 5 Cosmic Cubes. Which then means he Created his own Universe...then Created a Duplicate of the 616 Universe from scratch...>>

huh? "created his own universe"? a dupe, yes, but his own? but it says right here magus: "wandered the dimensional corridor and finally selected a barren region of space to call his own."

for someone who is quick to call someone who disagrees with his opinions liars, your track record the last couple pages hasn't been all that sparkly . . . ❌

now, let's assume for a moment that magus did wander between continuities. he did so WITHOUT the cubes OR the IG. maybe via the crossroads? a possibility in my mind. why bother setting up OUTSIDE the continuity he wanted to take over? (rhetorical, don't bother postulating an answer) beyond that, he used the cubes to affect 616 as well. so now you're telling "EVERYONE" that cosmic cubes are ALSO multiversal in power?? and what about the tech he uses to watch 616? multiversal too? maybe a better question would be to ask you what is NOT multiversal in power . . .

you should change your list to include the vishanti and cosmic cubes. 😆 and please stop stating your opinion as though it is fact when indeed it is very far from such.

Originally posted by bbrem123
it was stated that the Infinity being domain was any and all realities

there is speculation to if he made the who Marvel multiverse...thus creating the LT and all the rest of the abstracts when he comitted suicide

i wouldnt doubt that he is the all powerful being that the LT keeps referring to

but thats just what i think 😛

you're as entitled to your opinion as anyone, bb. however, like i said, there is no mention made of the i-being in marvel's current continuity. i'm afraid the being was retconned, similar to what happened to teh classic beyonder . . . 🙁

besides, toaa has been made reference to many times and was even 'shown' in a recent ff book (he was depicted as an artist holding a pencil . . . 😆 )

doesn't sound like toaa commited suicide to me . . . 😬

Originally posted by leonidas
noob. i use SAYETH all the time. i'm lazy. i copy/paste so as not to have to delete from quote.

hysterical2

I wasn't even laughing at the word Sayeth dude...I was laughing at how gs came out talking all that gibberish and you immediately take it all to heart. And you say your no defending him but everything you post is in opposition to what I post....everything!

Yet when you ask your questions and their answered correctly and proven(Celestials having their own Universe)you ignore that...humyour concern is where am I going to make a mistake in my posts so you can pick it out and have something to say.

Do your thing .

Originally posted by leonidas
but i'd be wary of the allusions. i know a couple members who are still . . . uncomfortable with the little fawn-fest you had over wwk's pf post in our last thread . . .(no offense wwk, but i'm guessing you were as weirded out as the rest . . .)

Woh...where are you going dude? Uhh no.. no you didn't...puke2

Did I really sting you that bad?

Dude I think your the one that's getting evil urgesgross weirdo

Here how about this pinkcuffs hitit

ps. Don't get jealous cause I give another poster well deserved esteem...many others give me that same love.

Originally posted by leonidas
EVERYONE is that you think YOU convinced.

Everyone...I never convinced anyone...the scans do that for me.

Originally posted by leonidas
--we know the IG had no effect on the UNIVERSAL aspect of maelstrom (if it was so all-powerful why not command maelstrom to return? why 'wonder' if it was an illusion?? you mean the wielder of the REALITY gem couldn't tell if maelstrom was real?? ridiculous . .

Dude..tap dance around that obscure scenerio all you want...

IG takes over Universes. Period.

Originally posted by leonidas
--we know variant gems exist in other continuities (why you insist they were different is beyond me. you actually think impossible man would use them to their fullest extent?? the book was more a spoof than anything, however as a what if the continuity DOES exist in the marvel multiverse.)

yawn

Originally posted by leonidas
--you admit you don't know what the 616 continuity consists of yet you steadfastly concude that magus's stronghold was NOT within it

😴

Originally posted by leonidas
--you yourself have admitted that the vague terminology (dimension/reality/plane/etc . . .)

I never said that.

I specifically differentiated REALITIES/ACTUALITIES(which

are Universes)with Dimensions and Realms.

Originally posted by leonidas
used throughout the series was interchangeable and as such really is not indicative of . . . well, anything!

sleep1

Originally posted by leonidas
--we know that doom said the place where magus stronghold was was "a mere 3 dimensional sequences over" and that they arrived there via the DIMENSIONAL CORRIDOR. or, wait, was that the . . . COSMIC VORTEX!? a dimensional corridor?

I said SOUNDS like the Cosmic Vortex..a place with out time and space.

Originally posted by leonidas
you mean almost like bifrost? asgard IS in 616, right . . .? so now dimensional corridors can take us to different continuites?
--we also know that to reach the place where his stronghold was built the magus "wandered the dimensional corridor and finally selected a barren region of space to call his own."

blahblah

Originally posted by leonidas
"created his own universe"? a dupe, yes, but his own? but it says right here magus: "wandered the dimensional corridor and finally selected a barren region of space to call his own."
for someone who is quick to call someone who disagrees with his opinions liars, your track record the last couple pages hasn't been all that sparkly .

There you go...what I tell ya from the top.

Congrats...clap3

He still created a Universe(an exact duplicate of our Universe)with 5 Cubes
and he still Merged both Universes with an Incomplete IG.

Originally posted by leonidas
now, let's assume for a moment that magus did wander between continuities. he did so WITHOUT the cubes OR the IG. maybe via the crossroads? a possibility in my mind. why bother setting up OUTSIDE the continuity he wanted to take over? (rhetorical, don't bother postulating an answer)

sign23

Originally posted by leonidas
beyond that, he used the cubes to affect 616 as well. so now you're telling "EVERYONE" that cosmic cubes are ALSO multiversal in power?? and what about the tech he uses to watch 616? multiversal too? maybe a better question would be to ask you what is NOT multiversal in power . .

sleepyhead

IG are in other realites, that means IG is Universal.
M'krann Crystal is Multiversal power.

Well, you Mr Master said that there IG wasn't even Universe destroyer, it doesn't matter, maybe it is diferently powerful in different realites, but it still was IG, which means it is universal.

Originally posted by Xplosive
IG are in other realites, that means IG is Universal.
M'krann Crystal is Multiversal power.

hysterical

It appears your wrong buddy.

Infinity Gauntlet makes you GOD....

And ruler of ALL universes.

Living Tribunal seems to agree...that IG makes more powerful than a Universe.

Originally posted by Xplosive
Well, you Mr Master said that there IG wasn't even Universe destroyer, it doesn't matter, maybe it is diferently powerful in different realites, but it still was IG, which means it is universal.

Interesting.

just how do you turn that into logic?

If 5 Cosmic Cubes can Create a Duplicate Universe of our Universe

And an INCOMPLETE Infinity Gauntlet can actualy merge those TWO Universes.

ok...

Now Here the Goddess merges 30 Cosmic Containment Units...which equal to even greater power as a sum than individually(as when Magus used his 5)

And yet Here Silver Surfer and the Goddess acknowledge that the Infinity Gauntlet is a "Far More Potent Force" than even 30 Cosmic Containment Units as the Cosmic Egg(un-evolved Cosmic Cubes)and remember it only took 5 to create an exact duplicate of our Universe...from scratch.

But you still see the IG as pointandlaughuniversal.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Interesting.

just how do you turn that into logic?

If 5 Cosmic Cubes can Create a Duplicate Universe of our Universe

And an INCOMPLETE Infinity Gauntlet can actualy merge those TWO Universes.

ok...

Now Here the Goddess merges 30 Cosmic Containment Units...which equal to even greater power as a sum than individually(as when Magus used his 5)

And yet Here Silver Surfer and the Goddess acknowledge that the Infinity Gauntlet is a "Far More Potent Force" than even 30 Cosmic Containment Units as the Cosmic Egg(un-evolved Cosmic Cubes)and remember it only took 5 to create an exact duplicate of our Universe...from scratch.

But you still see the IG as pointandlaughuniversal.

Originally posted by bigbran
its called ignorant.

laughing

Originally posted by bigbran
and mr m, how do you post multiple pics, on the same post, i can only do this... i acnt post multiple scans.

I'll pm you.

ok.

and how much proof is needed, to prove that the ig is multiversal!!
god you ignoramouses pull out one scan and say "we won" god mr master has used pages and pages of proof and you people think you can take it away with one scan 🤨
and besides, it said one beast with everything killed itself and made 6(or 7) gems, hmm one beast that is everything made 6 gems, and guess where those gems went, thats right in the 616.
and besides, even if it wasnt multiversal, any item that is just below LT should be no debating against people like phoenix, or anyone along those lines.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Infinity Gauntlet makes you GOD....

A GOD who can't overpower LT.