The writer never said that the IB WAS toaa neither did he say that the IB was responsible for the creation of the universe. He highlighted the fact that there ARE different interpretations and then he made suggestions about how they could possibly be made compatible. Its a pity that
a) a handbook writer does NOT equate to a comic writer
b) The other interpretation is the one whats current continuity 🙂
According to the writer whose opinion you're lapping up, the I Being was NEVER multiversal 😂
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_Beings
look at Nemesis...creates universes
Originally posted by bbrem123
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_Beingslook at Nemesis...creates universes
Nuh-uh ❌
Nemesis can warp reality and rearrange matter on a universal scale.
However it is very much of creation, it makes use of matter already there it doesnt spawn a la Phoenix 😖hifty:
Nemesis' universe in the crossover was i quote " A few thousand miles across, a few meters deep, containing elements of universes it'd experienced"
Hmmm thats impressive 😂
The I Being neither created the universe nor was it multiversal.
Originally posted by bbrem123
im just showing what the webpage stats...along with the webpage u showed which compared TOAA to the IBthere has been so many sources that stat it multiversal, but u seem to ignore them and then make up ur own interpretation
Can you please give me your definition of multiversal because i think thats the root cause behind your delusion. What do you think it is? 🙂
The webpage states that Nemesis can build universes. Thats true, she most certainly can, it just happens to be with bits and bobs from other universes. 😂
That definitely isnt multiversal 🙂
My webpage marked out the two different interpretations and then said the only difference is the current interpretation didnt create the universe. Well given that the bio depicts the I Being as a universal being and states its power is universal then please have a lil guess at what that means??
Come on mate youre not stupid. 😖hifty:
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Can you please give me your definition of multiversal because i think thats the root cause behind your delusion. What do you think it is? 🙂The webpage states that Nemesis can build universes. Thats true, she most certainly can, it just happens to be with bits and bobs from other universes. 😂
That definitely isnt multiversal 🙂
My webpage marked out the two different interpretations and then said the only difference is the current interpretation didnt create the universe. Well given that the bio depicts the I Being as a universal being and states its power is universal then please have a lil guess at what that means??
Come on mate youre not stupid. 😖hifty:
[Nemisis is a being formed when the seven Infinity Gems come together. It claims to exist to create universes
Hmm...the info provided contradicts your statements, but I can't conclude. I don't know all too much about Nemisis.
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
[b][Nemisis is a being formed when the seven Infinity Gems come together. It claims to exist to create universesHmm...the info provided contradicts your statements, but I can't conclude. I don't know all too much about Nemisis. [/B]
Yeah she did try to create a universe, its just a pity that it was just a few thousand miles wide and a few metres deep. 😂
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
My webpage marked out the two different interpretations and then said the only difference is the current interpretation didnt create the universe. Well given that the bio depicts the I Being as a universal being and states its power is universal then please have a lil guess at what that means??Come on mate youre not stupid. 😖hifty:
According to various sources, namely Thanos of Titan (quoting from the infinity well) and the soul gem itself, the six infinity gems originally were one, a singular being that was alone in all creation. The one being was all powerful, since all that was, was it. This being grew tired of its lonely existence, and ended it. From the ashes of this ending, the multiverse came into being and, soon after, so did the infinity gems. The core of this being's might reincarnated, the infinity gems could hold sway over reality itself, if used properly.
the two IB r obviously different, nobody knows y, but it could be that when he killed itself he created everything.....with that said this other IB is not everything in existence it is only the Infinity Gems thus making it less powerful then the original
ur arguing that the reformed infinity being is universal where i am arguing that the original is multiversal
Originally posted by bbrem123
According to various sources, namely Thanos of Titan (quoting from the infinity well) and the soul gem itself, the six infinity gems originally were one, a singular being that was alone in all creation. The one being was all powerful, since all that was, was it. This being grew tired of its lonely existence, and ended it. From the ashes of this ending, the multiverse came into being and, soon after, so did the infinity gems. The core of this being's might reincarnated, the infinity gems could hold sway over reality itself, if used properly.the two IB r obviously different, nobody knows y, but it could be that when he killed itself he created everything.....with that said this other IB is not everything in existence it is only the Infinity Gems thus making it less powerful then the original
ur arguing that the reformed infinity being is universal where i am arguing that the original is multiversal
The I Beings death was never said to result in the formation of a multiverse. Thats just an interpretation of yours one that isnt shared by myself, the handbook writers or any other comic out there im afraid.
Regardless, none of that matters when as per the current interpretation the I Being is conclusively universal in nature and power, so why bactrack. Stop clinging on to the glory days. They now are very much irrelevant. 🙁
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Yeah she did try to create a universe, its just a pity that it was just a few thousand miles wide and a few metres deep. 😂
That's pretty pathetic considering that Classic IG had the power to create and manipulate time, space, reality, etc. to infinite levels.
What a waste of a character then, if she cannot even represent the power IG once was.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
And bbrem please dont repost old scans from the IGs debut which are no longer relevant or any scans talking of "infinity" or "all that is" because we've already had that debate and again, the evidence is inconclusive.
Actually GS, it IS relevant in my thread. My thread asked If Lucifer can beat Thanos with classic IG...
Do NOT tell people what they can say in my thread, when I had lay down the rules specifically.
Ne ways, I would appreciate if you stop with the pheonix vs IG debate, please take it to another thread, this thread is about those characters in relation to LUCIFER.
Thank You 😉
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Actually GS, it IS relevant in my thread. My thread asked If Lucifer can beat Thanos with classic IG...Do [b]NOT
tell people what they can say in my thread, when I had lay down the rules specifically.Ne ways, I would appreciate if you stop with the pheonix vs IG debate, please take it to another thread, this thread is about those characters in relation to LUCIFER.
Thank You 😉 [/B]
For a start my personal debate involving Bbrem was pertaining to the IG as it stands now so i was correct in dismissing outdated scans as irrelevant. I will however take that discussion out of your thread. Do not however single myself out as the only person debating about Phoenix within your thread because that is clearly not the case.
Good day to you 😱
-GS 😎
you've a point there, lu. my apologies for partially usurping your thread as well. there is a small link though -- in attempting to ultimately determine the level of the IG, (and the pf -- AGAIN) it would help solve at least ONE (or 2)part/s of your gauntlet. i would say that the IG needs to be multiversal to combat lucifer (though i think we've discussed the differences between dc/marvel cosmogony in the past and the direct comparison is difficult to make). imo it is universal. as such, lucifer would seem to be above the IG and whoever is wielding it.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
For a start my personal debate involving Bbrem was pertaining to the IG as it stands now so i was correct in dismissing outdated scans as irrelevant. I will however take that discussion out of your thread. Do not however single myself out as the only person debating about Phoenix within your thread because that is clearly not the case.Good day to you 😱
-GS 😎
I have only said this because there are so many other threads about Pheonix vs IG, and the topic is invading this thread.
I know you are not the only one, but reading that past pages, it seems you are the prime instigator of that personal debate. However, it matters not, you were not the only person arguing that, that much is true.
I do not mind anyone talking about Pheonix or IG since they are both in this thread, just if you do so, pertain in to thier odds against Lucifer.