Lucifer hits the Gauntlet !!!

Originally posted by Xplosive
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Of course he didn't have, and also Jean didn't have. He knew about process of the Universe and he wanted to quicken that process using the Phoenix Force thrugh Jean.

Now can you provide me with statements by either Stranger or Eternity about this part of Stranger's plan from X-Men Forever.

He knew humans are key.

Why are you telling me this. If he didn't know, he wouldn't have staged the whole thing to lure his five keys.

And Jean is the ultimate in using the Phoenix Force.

What does this have to do with anything. You make it sound as if the other four weren't important.

Im BAAAAAAAAAAAAAACCCCKK!!! 😉

Ok before we get things started i just want to set a few things straight. The essay war has come to an end!! No longer am i going to argue this essay for essay. No longer am i going to post paragraphs addressing multiple issues as that just gives the oppurtunity for certain points to be skimmed over in subsequent rebuttal attempts. Im gonna do this point for point. Most of the posts that have appeared after my last post are rehash and have been addressed if not in this thread, then in the other big Phoenix debate.

Right lets get the ball rolling. 🙂

WWK and Mr Master just a few questions please. (No essay replies or reposting)

Can you tell me what your definition of multiversal power is? What does it entail?

Can you tell me what event occurs to initiate a universes life cycle?

Can you tell me what your definition for Marvels abstract beings is?

Think carefully about your answers and lets deal with one question at a time to avoid a repeat of whats been previously going on. 🙂

Cat got your tongue? 😕

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Lucifer willed the pheonix and everything else into existence he is
exceded in age only by yahweh he is omniversal above and beyond universes multiverses and megaverses he knows all of there weak spots

Originally posted by Darth Ownage
Lucifer willed the pheonix and everything else into existence he is
exceded in age only by yahweh he is omniversal above and beyond universes multiverses and megaverses he knows all of there weak spots

an abstract is someone that sits there and looks after things. a phoenix avatar is not an abstract, maybe the phoenix of the white crown is, but an avatar is not.
galactus, has the power of an abstract, but he isnt one.
eternity, infinity, LT, oblivion, death, phoenix of the white crown, ect...
but LT is above all of the others.
something like that.

Originally posted by bigbran
an abstract is someone that sits there and looks after things. a phoenix avatar is not an abstract, maybe the phoenix of the white crown is, but an avatar is not.
galactus, has the power of an abstract, but he isnt one.
eternity, infinity, LT, oblivion, death, phoenix of the white crown, ect...
but LT is above all of the others.
something like that.

Originally posted by Darth Ownage
death is death ... dumbass

LT is not immune to dieing

Originally posted by bigbran
an abstract is someone that sits there and looks after things. a phoenix avatar is not an abstract, maybe the phoenix of the white crown is, but an avatar is not.
galactus, has the power of an abstract, but he isnt one.
eternity, infinity, LT, oblivion, death, phoenix of the white crown, ect...
but LT is above all of the others.
something like that.

im pretty sure if thanos excerted a little force, he could have destroyed her.
and even beyonder had to put a lot of his power in a glass and got her to drink it to kill her.
that kinda shows how hard it is to destroy death...

Originally posted by bigbran
im pretty sure if thanos excerted a little force, he could have destroyed her.
and even beyonder had to put a lot of his power in a glass and got her to drink it to kill her.
that kinda shows how hard it is to destroy death...

Originally posted by bigbran
an abstract is someone that sits there and looks after things. a phoenix avatar is not an abstract, maybe the phoenix of the white crown is, but an avatar is not.
galactus, has the power of an abstract, but he isnt one.
eternity, infinity, LT, oblivion, death, phoenix of the white crown, ect...
but LT is above all of the others.
something like that.

Originally posted by Darth Ownage
exactly yeah but there you have contradicted yourself it took more effort to kill her than it did LT therefore it is above LT

which means she would win in a fight

ya right.

Originally posted by bigbran
in raw ower LT is way above her. its kinda hard to kill death. but inbetweener, and dr strange have humiliated her.
shes just hard to destroy.

Your right.

I think the reason Death avoided being absorbed was one of two reasons.

Either her realm is seperated from the universe that was absorbed(even though she's that universes's abstract)

Or the actual Multi-verse was absorbed by Thanos...and Death is still a lingering concept because there are realms/domains/dimensions outside the Multi-verse.

plus, was she even in the assult against thanos?