Originally posted by GalacticStorm
I wasnt previously aware that Abraxas killed them simultaneously, however something has just dawned on me when thinking about the multiversal vs universal issue.
gs, that ABRAXAS was the one "killing" them (the "reeds" obviously didn't die) is not at all a 'fact'. the state that reed was in -- on FIRE, hurting, and by all appearances 'dying' -- was rendered by a group of NOVAS on the previous page. the only 'proof' that abraxas was killing reed is that scan -- the one where he holds up his hand and says OBSERVE. on the previous page -- scans i've shown in the past -- a host of novas attacks and puts reed down, resulting in his sorry state. where in that scan does it indicate that abraxas was killing reed and not merely showing him his otherselves dying? how do you look at that scan and conclude that abraxas was killing ANY reed?
Originally posted by bigbran
or like galactus being able to destroy the universe 10x over.
but phoenix can only cause wounds.
Youre missing the point my friend 🙂
Phoenix didnt intend to wound 616. Her task was just to rid creation of the threat of Sublime and so she amputated the future of 616 without a thought. The side effect of this action was that she fatally wounded 616. It had no future it was in a static state. The other avatars said to her they'd just leave it to die showing that the duties of the Force and its avatars are beyond any single universe, however out of compassion (because 616 was her native reality) Jean chose to save said reality. In doing so she demonstrated how very insignificant a reality is to her. She held and manipulated it in the palm of her hand. A universe!! Given the comparative power levels the two have displayed on panel, what do you think Phoenix could do if it was her intention to go all out on a destructive rampage? 😄
Originally posted by leonidas
gs, that ABRAXAS was the one "killing" them (the "reeds" obviously didn't die) is not at all a 'fact'. the state that reed was in -- on FIRE, hurting, and by all appearances 'dying' -- was rendered by a group of NOVAS on the previous page. the only 'proof' that abraxas was killing reed is that scan -- the one where he holds up his hand and says OBSERVE. on the previous page -- scans i've shown in the past -- a host of novas attacks and puts reed down, resulting in his sorry state. where in that scan does it indicate that abraxas was killing reed and not merely showing him his otherselves dying? how do you look at that scan and conclude that abraxas was killing ANY reed?
Cool. Thanks for that Leo. 🙂
Regardless even if MR M's interpretation is the intended one ive highlighted why it doesnt mark Abraxas out as anything more than a high level cosmic. 😄
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Cool. Thanks for that Leo. 🙂Regardless even if MR M's interpretation is the intended one ive highlighted why it doesnt mark Abraxas out as anything more than a high level cosmic. 😄
🙂
just saying there IS more than one way to see that scan. in fact, on the previous page, it was abraxas who ordered the novas to attack reed, making it appear -- to me -- that the ordering of the novas attack was the extent of abraxas's assault on reed. i still don't understand how someone looks at that scan and sees it as abraxas assaulting reed when he simply says, OBSERVE and gives no indication of an attack of any kind . . . 😬 especially in light of the fact that 616 reed's 'dying' is clearly explainable by the attack of a group of heralds!
but that of course leaves the question -- if abraxas wasn't killing reeds, what was causing the deaths of the 'other' reeds in the alternate realities . . . ?
actually, it appeared to me that 616 reed's death somehow initiated the deaths of the others -- they were 'dying' at the same time 616 was dying, but again, i can't see how that scan shows that abraxas was responsible. so it leaves only 2 options: abraxas WAS, in some unindicated fashion killing them, OR 616's death somehow triggered the deaths of these alternate reed's. that was the 'big' debate a few weeks back . . .
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Yes that your brain can’t process information in any form other than the simplest of breakdowns. Said disability necessitated a change in approach on my part.
How low can you go?
You have nothing left, so you have to succumb to insults. 😂
Sounding smart and being smart...are not the same thing.
But do you...whatever.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Nope. The way Marvel sees it is this:
http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=3/7719433191.jpg&s=x11
Still using puke2bios to deabte I see.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
When the word of a non omniscient becomes canon fact then we’ll talk. Until then, Reeds word is merely his opinion,
Like I said before, your selective in ALL your debates.
You pumped a scan of Reed Richards saying PF was the big bang MANY times...IN this same thread, 😆
This was your ONLY evidence of ANYONE EVER saying PF was the big bang.
Now that same Reed Richards, is just babbling "opinions"
LOOK...this is YOU.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Therefore anything that is OF creation will originate and derive power from the Big Bang.
Your a JOKE!
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Heres what Galactus believes of his Ultimate Nullifier:
http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=main/7/20810241549.jpg&s=f10
http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=main/7/20810355296.jpg&s=f10
So not only did Galactus believe that he and his worldship could contain the power of the Ultimate Nullifier, but he actually did so on panel.
This is comedy.
Galactus NEVER said he could...but "PERHAPS"
Galactus along with Morg the ship and the rest were Obliterated...he didn't contain jack.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Not only that but it was the full, unfettered power of the Nullifier as the devices safeguards had come away due to Morgs use of the device.
Way to go on the LIES.
NOWHERE in that issue does it say, "it was the full, unfettered power of the Nullifier"
UN has been used to nullify just ONE being...it's upto the wielder(if he can)to choose to nullify ONE individual or the Universe or the Multi-verse.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
(For a summary of the relevant issues check here: http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix2/tyrantgalactus.htm )
Bios again....puke
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
So outside of claims from characters who are not exactly reliable sources for the matter at hand there are no demonstrations, no on panel references pertaining to the Nullifier being anything but universal.
"No demonstrations" ?
Here Reed says "our Earth is merging with other Alternates"...how can this be...unless the entire Multiverse is misaligned.
Here Nova says "creatures of the MULTIVERSE Mixing --- Reality folding onto itself" again this Multiversal misalignment is literally ripping the Multiverse apart.
Finally what does this lead to?
Reed, "In order to REALIGN ALL that is...we had to END ALL that was.
What was MISALIGNED? The MULTI-VERSE!
How was this done?
Reed uses the UN to banish Abraxas by Destroying and Remaking the Multi-verse.
Un remakes the Multiverse in an instant
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Eternity is a timeline. Reed and the like all stem from said timeline. If Eternity Is rebooted to a certain point (as he was in the F4 arc we’re debating) then any and all events that occurred after said point would be undone. What happened across the multiverse was all brought about by events/beings stemming from 616. If Eternity is reset before that point (as per the handbooks “ Reed nullified the universe itself. The universe restored itself to its previous normality.”) then other realities would never have been affected.
I was wondering when you was going to start...blahblah
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
you have no conclusive evidence to back up your point, whereas I have the precedence provided by the Ultimate Nullifiers previous showings and comments from Galactus himself, the authority on the device.
Fool yourself all you want...
Your not even worth replying to anymore.
Because of your snide remarks and your vain attempt at insulting me with your open statement, plus the constant reek of shit in your your posts.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
When you think about it, applying your power across an unspecified amount of dimensions to kill a number of mortals across the multiverse should be achievable by a universal level power.
I disagree with your Speculation.
And until you have on panel proof...it's impossible.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
The realities in which their power was being applied weren’t affected as a whole, just negligible aspects (The alternate Reed Richards) within said realities. Therefore theres no reason why a major universal power, a power who can dominate a whole reality, cannot spread this power to affect multiple realities on a smaller scale.
Wrong.
That would be LOW Level Multiversal power.
NO Universal power can AFFECT anything outside one universe simultaneously.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Your point is irrelevant in light of the fact that the crystal was much later upgraded to multiversal status, therefore referring to scans from the crystals debut appearance and using them as evidence for the crystal being universal in current continuity is a useless exercise.A waste of time basically.
Ok.
So don't waste MY time by posting it as evidence...for the Crystal's power.
I got those scans from YOU homie...Yes...from this same thread. 😂
And though some "bio writer" changed the Crystal from a Universal destroyer to something greater...
The bottom line is:
When Phoenix Repaired it ON PANEL...it was a UNIVERSAL threat.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
When the crystals energies are released in one universe, a doorway is left open and this draft eventually reaches through and affects other realities one by one collapsing them in one single sweeping wave.
"crystals energies"?
Continue to make stuff up all you want.
It's the Neutron Galaxy within the Crystal that SLOWLY absorbs A Universe, which could POTENTIALLY cause a CHAIN REACTION that would collapse other realities possibly the Multiverse itself..
NO "single sweeping wave"
That's a LIE too.
It's a CHAIN REACTION.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
There is one crystal, one wave of power that eventually sweep across all realities, collapsing the entire multiverse. There are not multiple crystals, in alternate realities, releasing multiple waves of energies each one collapsing their respective universes.
Not true.
While there may be only one Crystal,
it does NOT "sweep across all realities, collapsing the entire multiverse"
Like a Domino Effect, the CHAIN REACTION caused by ONE Universe collapsing, would lead to another and another and so on.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Plus the difference between the Reed killings and the Galactus ones, is that Abraxas didnt kill the Galactuses simultaneously from one reality. He went around to each reality taking them out.
Show me anywhere in any of the issues involving Abraxas does it say he went from Universe to universe to kill Galactuses?
You make shit up and then have the audacity to tell bigbran,
"With that in mind your point is invalid"
Your point, is INVALID and NON-EXISTENT.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Which given the fact that Phoenix has on panel casually caused fatal wounds to the 616 universe (by amputating its future)
More LIES.
She caused a wound to an "ORPAHN UNIVERSE" NOT 616.
It NEVER mentions 616.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
before manipulating it atom by atom in its entirety in the palm of her hand
Continuous EXAGGERATION!
That's your personal input: "in its entirety" 😆
Phoenix Force REPAIRED the DAMAGE to an ORPHAN UNIVERSE...no more.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
as if it were nothing,
NOT according to Phoenix herself...guess you know more than she does.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
I like your speculation at the end there. When you become a writer for Marvel then i'll accept your dictation pertaining to the inner workings of Thanos of Titan.
I should be a Writer for Marvel then...look here ...Yea...I drew this myself.
Thanos didn't become the Universe because it was his Ultimate goal....he did it to LOSE his power...to the Infinity Gauntlet.
What's your next excuse?
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
The fact remains that he saw becoming Eternity as his ultimate goal despite having the IG. Dont dismiss Eternity my friend please remember that it was only an MBody that Thanos defeated,
I just PROVED you wrong right above this with ON PANEL evidence.
